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My company stopped matching my 401k after I left. Should I call the police?!?! Is this a serious thread?

Man, you sure like rooting for this team to be moved. Pretty weird thing to hope for as a Sox fan.

My pointless thoughts on this situation. Anderson needs to get some help, guy is losing it generally speaking and just needs to step back/away. Middleton is going to have a very hard time finding any friends anywhere he goes. This is also why s%*# in a clubhouse stays in a clubhouse. Now we're basically getting gossip posted as news. Grandal gets exposed by TA/whoever. So maybe TA used to locker by Abreu with the Cubans and with Abreu gone he moved to another part and Grandal took that personally so he leaks this. Now nothing we hear is anything but hurt feelings. Riordan blows.

Yeah, this report makes no sense.

comparing palka nad burger is laughable

Jake going to go on to have a Nellie Cruz back end of career.

no one wins the media-trade-rave rewards quite like the sox. too bad those never count for anything outside of rick hahn high fives.

and I was wrong, no excuses for Vaughn. Had his shots. Burger mashes.

Trading Burger instead of Vaughn hurts me.

I love how when you don't like a guy personally, it means all the players also hate him.

Idk why you do this to yourself. They said they're not moving cease/TA and they're not imo. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment. They will try to patch work a roster next year. This is who they are.

This is what I just don't buy... You're telling me Hahn pitches "hey, we spend 3 million hear, we save 100 million here in FA etc" and Jerry isn't interested? If Hahn had an idea to build out the proper infrastructure he could have. The Sox payroll is 190 million dollars; Jerry isn't forcing the Sox to invest the least in tech and analytics, and on PD. Maybe you think he wants to pinch pennies on amateurs and latin players, OK, but that doesn't mean he's going to say you can't implement this program, this system, these thousand dollar technologies... that's just nonsense imo and another Hahn excuse. Hahn was raving with Getz about a single message and technology and etc and then it came out then invested nothing there. If Jerry was that strict, a smart GM would drop 5-7 million off the payroll and put it in those segments because the ROI's in those spaces is massive in baseball right now.

There honest to god might not be a more delusional group of people than the "Hahn isn't that bad" crowd. You don't need to sign mega free agents to compete. The Sox, under Hahn's watch, are bad at: drafting, Free agency, player development. Hahn was good and is now OK at: signing young guys to decent deals. It turns out that you actually have to identify and develop those guys for that skill to work. Rick didn't build a system from the ground up. He tried to build one from the top down, and just like everything he's done he was quickly exposed for the whole world to see.

The White Sox are 129 years old; Luis Robert has a chance of being the best all-around player they've had. Certainly not a guarantee, but I like greatness. I watch Angels games and the Angels suck. The Reds are OK but they are super exciting because they have exciting players. Robert is exciting. He's fun to watch. This is entertainment. Do I want clean well played baseball? Sure. Do I want to win? Obviously, but winning will never be guaranteed year in and year out as a Sox fan. I was thinking back to the D Wise catch 14 years ago; that team stunk. They still provided me with unbelievable moments and memories that season. Those moments happened because they didn't decide that MLB does not matter at all; rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. I gave them 1 rebuild, never again. I don't need to win 95 games every year. Or a WS title. A cool moment or memory here and there would be just fine. After all, we're Sox fans so you knew what you were signing up for.

He actually does and adds a lot. It's not a guarantee (see the Angels), but having Robert is like having two spots locked down. There aren't a lot of players in the game of his value. Also, I don't know about you guys but I'm trying to watch baseball that the White Sox play. This year has been such a disaster it's hard to watch, but at least I try to watch Robert AB's and etc. Players like Robert hold interest, even through the bad. It's more likely that if they clean house (seems very doubtful) and move in a different direction with Robert I'll at least follow. Without Robert? I'm done watching them intentionally put as many AAA players on the field as possible without any goal of putting something exciting on the MLB diamond.

I understand being a White Sox fan makes one irrationally delusional from a negative perspective, but Robert is owed 67 million over the next four years with TWO clubs options. Robert has a very good chance of being worth roughly 58-60 million this year alone.

Robert is 25 and one of the best players in the game. No chance I would trade him. Cease, whatever.

Thank goodness you came in here to protect Jerry's fictitious internet money.

I would have traded Cease and kept Giolito.

They should have signed him, hence my entire point. And all those saying they can just sign him in 4 months, stop.

I have no idea why we've gotten so far from the entertainment concept of this game, but there is probably a 5% chance that these two guys combined for their careers are as valuable as the next 5 years of Giolito. Sorry, I don't want to spend another two years watching the worst team in baseball. I'll actually sign and watch the MLB player and not worry about acquiring a guy who this org needs to develop.

This is kind of a crazy comment. It's obviously not "really good" for us. The White Sox should have re-signed Lucas Giolito. They have no pitching. These bozo's shouldn't be trading for and "developing" anyone. If the Sox can't sign a guy like Giolito who the hell can they sign? The return might be adequate, but it's certainly not a really good trade for us.

The Sox making zero effort to resign lucas while claiming they're trying to compete next year and beyond is so embarrassing. This organization is so awful.

You don't think Jerry is a problem? I have said before, as a human being (especially for a billionaire) Jerry is a good person in a lot of areas. I'm not gonna wish death or pain on a guy like that. Sure he's lived a privileged life, and he absolutely has flaws, but he's done a lot of good and honestly seems like a great boss... sadly for us lol

There's really nothing Hahn is good at anymore. He used to be a good contract guy but that time passed long ago.