Look at Ray Ray Run

Wasting bullets in the minors lol. McDougal has looked serviceable for 113 of his career 311 minor league innings, and even then he was rocking a WHIP of 1.332 in a very pitcher friendly environment. That WHIP in the minor leagues would rank him in the back 30% of MLB relievers. When adjusting for environment, his 1.54 WHIP puts him in Erik Fedde territory (140ish of 150ish arms). The way we talk about McDougal here has always been a bit odd to me. It's not like the guy has forced the issue.

Bobby Jenks? I'm seriously envious of your optimism. Before, McDougal was your solution for the rotation woes. Now he's suddenly Bobby Jenks. Hicks is the 2nd or 3rd best reliever on the team. I'd take Hicks over Hudson. I've only been wrong about Hicks for 8 years now too so I'm due!

I'm so confused... Sandlin and Schultz have almost identical numbers. 6 ERA's, FIP's around 5.3. Lefties have a near 1000 OPS against Sandlin. He doesn't have a pitch to get lefties out, and to me he's profiling as a reliever.

I still have serious reservations about both. I think Burke at least has the arm talent to work it out, but seems hard to sustain success with one + pitch only. At least it's the fastball so there's some hope but everything else grades out pretty poorly. Martin, by stuff metrics, doesn't have a single + pitch. He's definitely getting more out of the sum of his parts. I'm pretty skeptical of the sustainability of that.

Not sure about this... Bannister has certainly gotten more out of the arms than their talent is worth. Their pitching staff getting better results than expected is a big part of this year. I think the issue is the new Sox regime is completely lost when it comes to identifying pitching talent.

This is a byproduct of their inability to identify any pitching at all. Another starter they're moving to the bullpen. Can't think of another team treating their SP prospects like this.

Dude was throwing 1.5 mph slower than webb and his best pitch was a change up. It would be the slowest fastball among qualified pitchers this year by .4 MPH. Traded twice too despite great results. Everyone they got in that trade was trending down. People used to claim cease didn't have value then he signed a massive deal lol.

I think you and WestEddy keep telling on yourself with the "looking for attention" comments. That's my opinion. There are thousands of baseball scouts. If you think they all share the same opinion on those players, you my friend are the delusional one. The community as a whole absolutely hive-minds their thoughts though. These are all projections of volatile assets. It's always safe to say one or two guys are clearly above the rest, but that's less frequent the case than more. Most scouts didn't have Zach Neto ahead of Jackson Holliday. Most scouts didn't have Bonemer, Yesavage and Griffin ahead of Hagen. The differences between these guys are an adjustment or two from relevance vs irrelevance. Edit: Just adding I'm not saying I called the above, although clearly Bonemer been my guy forever and I was/am a huge Neto guy.

How is this a great draft to have number 1? If anything, it's a middling draft.

Whats funny is people like you who just parrot some consensus and then act like it's etched in stone and laugh at anything to the contrary.

If Burress was 5'10, id feel much better. The size is of concern, no doubt about it.

Is his hit tool a carrying tool? I haven't seen it graded as a 70 anywhere, but maybe it is. I've said before, I don't pretend to have scouted Emerson.

I know everyone likes to agree with each other in the scouting space, but there's a reason baseball has such volatility in the draft. This year is wide open to me.

So... he's going to grow into tools? Color me skeptical. Bobby Witt clearly had elite tools, not just top-tier skills. I don't understand why anyone compares the two outside of them both playing for Rusty Greer. Witt had a better arm, better glove, better speed, and more immediate and projectable power. He also was more likely to get to his hit tool because he had 80 speed. Bobby had THREE carrying tools, and Emerson has... zero? Also, Bobby had his full-year of pro-ball wiped out because of COVID.

I'd take the following players over Emerson and Roch: Lackey Burress Flora Bell Reese For someone really far out there, I like Strosnider's tools better, and while I probably wouldn't take him over them because I'm a coward I do think he has a higher pro ceiling and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him have a better career. So I like him more.

Lol why? I keep reading these comments. Lackey was better than Roch this year. Taking him makes a ton of sense. Maxed out prospects should be avoided at 1-1. Emerson is a skills based high school player which also seems really risky. Skills don't always translate level to level, but tools do. Lackey is by far the best athlete between the three so not sure why you're saying catchers can't be more athletic than the short stops. It's undeniable that Lackey is the best athlete of the three.

That's a collection of some of the worst pitchers in baseball with a couple good arms mixed in there. It's a pointless metric. And, again, I still like Hicks.

Yes, im skeptical of any pitch rating that has Javier Assad sweeper in the top tier. Correct. Along with bum Funderburk and Sandlin sheesh Im one of the few here who still is a sucker for Hicks skills.

The name and list of pitches on this list doesn't give me a lot of confidence in whatever this metric is.

Roch and Lackey 1 and 2.

I don't want to be anything like the Brewers or Rays, outside of the consistently competing part. Those teams are miserable to root for. You say goodbye to your favorite players every couple of years, and have a revolving door of talent that gets to go elsewhere when the time comes.

Huge Series. Let's sweep the leg!

Saw Keith moved Emersin to 4 with his final update, and moved Tyler Bell to 3. A quote that matches my concern: "His case is much more about his skills rather than plus tools or athleticism." I want tools and upside at 1.

Lackey >> Both. Regardless, I don't get how Emerson could have jumped either guy and not sure I can be convinced otherwise.

What's funny is him and Hedges used to be boys. Wonder if Hedges got caught up in one of this lunatics stupid "pranks."