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Since September first of last year (2025) Brenton Doyle is slashing 198/248/274 with a xwOBA of 235 with a -1.2 fWAR. That ranks him 76th of 77 players with 50+ PA's as an OF'er in wRC+ and it ranks him dead last in fWAR. The absolutely crazy thing is he's slashed that while carrying a .289 BABIP. In that period, he ranks 512 out of 518 players in fWAR, tied with Edgar Quero who the Sox just sent down because he's been so bad. Not sure I'm seeing that "crushing it" part.

Why didnt the Sox just fix Nolan Jones? He also had one good year as a member of the rockies?

Jordan Hicks has been this version of himself before, and he didn't make any changes while actively playing. He's thrown from this slot before, had this stuff before, and generally been this guy. Guys make minor adjustments all the time, and I'd consider the adjustment Hicks made to be minor and achieved while not playing.

While I hate this trade from a value perspective, I'm excited to watch Luis as I've always enjoyed him and he's always come off as a real competitor. I hope he can tap into some magic and find a little juice. Also will say the idea that he's stopped throwing the change isn't true. He's just thrown it half as much, and he started throwing a 4 seamer much more. The 4 seamer was a better pitch as the change had been regressing even in cincy, so the adjustment made sense. Change ups seem to have a sustainability problem more than most pitches now. I'm not sure if it's video and pitching machines, but elite ones shelf life appear to be shorter than sliders and fastballs. I will add that all this talk of the Sox acquiring a player to change them mid-season and unlock success is crazy imo. Guys don't drastically overhaul who they are mid-season.

his xwOBA in AAA right now is 276, which would rank him in the bottom 10% of that league. His actual wOBA is 478. Hmmmm

You and your pointless personal insults and jabs. Get some new material pal.

Castillo deal was the most lopsided of the deadline. Sox gave a prospect of equal value to the other similar rentals but also threw in 25 million dollars. Best move was a reliever when they supposedly stopped all their prospects to make them relievers. oDoyle in fact does not rule. Even in his "return to form season" he had a 670 OPS away from Coors. Adding in the fact that we also lost Periera in the deal, it was a real stinker. Bart was fine, but the fact we needed a catcher after the resources we spent to acquire two of them in the past few years wasnt good. F.

I'd take roman anthony today over everyone they got in that deal.

Rockies had already replaced Doyle with Carrigg. And they had Moniak and McCarthy at the other two spots. He wasnt even going to start in Colorado. If only they had Ryan Fuller!

Bart is fine. Never made sense to trade for a starter (imo) given how high the org is on Teel. Bart a nice back up catcher.

Huh? He has 20 homers on the road and 29 at Coors.

We've gotta make sure all our catchers have averages under 200. Although at least Joey was just under 200 with the Braves!

Why move on from Derek Hill if youre going to acquire someone like him a month later though? Agree Doyle can run and defend.

Pal youre the only person here calling people names and policing thoughts.

He hit lefties well last year, but oddly most of the lefties he faced were in Colorado so really hard to say.

What's stupid is you telling everyone on the internet what the proper opinions are, how they should express them, what sites they should visit and not visit, and beyond. There is another trade thread where these same posters (but for me, since I hate spending assets on the pen) said it was a good deal. So everyone isn't always critical of deals. Maybe you'll start viewing Soxtalk like you view reddit and we'll all be spared.

I definitely gave him credit for the character identification of Vargas, and do agree that he deserves credit for acquiring a player who had the foundation to build off of. My point is more so that when he acquired Vargas, and the two years following it, he wasn't winning that deal either and that I doubt the reason they made the deal was that they thought he'd add 3 MPH to his bat speed.

Chris Getz is bad at this. People mistaken the ability to hire smart people for draft purposes with being good as the sox GM right now. This guy has gotten taken to the woodshed in almost every deal he's made, and the ones that weren't bad ended up successful because the player put in a s%*# ton of work 2 years after the deal (vargas). Every new move solidifies this for me. He doesn't know how to value MLB talent or assets. Just my opinion of course.

The new "coop will fix 'em". Lol Isn't the point of having an org that can supposedly turn guys around is that you dont have to pay much to acquire the project? Sox are paying for these guys as if they've already turned them around.

A 570 OPS playing in Colorado lol.

Second guy we've acquired with an actual asset where the team trading the player had basically moved on from them as viable pieces.

why? jfc

Interesting. I have seen Nimmala ranked pretty low some places relatively speaking. He's pretty high at fangraphs I guess though. Wasn't even in Laws mid-season top 70 if I didnt miss something.

Why? Nimmala is no where near the prospect Bonemer is...?

Huascar is fine. Coming into the year, he's more consistent than Dominguez and they do it different but they aren't/weren't all that different from an outcomes perspective over the duration of their career. I just hate giving up more assets for the bullpen (for a 6-7 inning guy). We've spent such a high % of our assets on the bullpen in the Getz era.