Look at Ray Ray Run

How many sox fans are gonna parrot that laughable competition talking point? This isn't college. As much as the sox want to make this about effort in spring, the game is about talent. Only people with no talent tie their identities to this narrative of competing for a spot.

Because while he doesn't have an elite secondary he does have a decent 3 pitch mix and it's just as likely, imo, that he figures it out as a starter as he does as a reliever.

Never. You're not salvaging value with him as a reliever. Run him into the ground.

Maybe, but none of them can. The sox are starting fedde on opening day. He was the worst starter on a near 100 loss nats team a couple years ago. I struggle to see how a move to the bullpen fixes his issues. He doesn't even have an elite put out secondary at this point.

The entire team sucks. Kopech has some talent at least. It's not like you're pulling him and replacing him with a better option.

It's about what I expected. Making changes just to say you did. This team should be trying to maximize tail outcomes to get some unexpected value. Kopech being a closer adds no value to this team and not much value, if any, in a trade.

All jokes aside, if you're gonna sign a dick head at least sign one who could be great.

Yeah, bullpen was always there as an option. They have zero starting pitchers. It's crazy. This is the worst rotation in baseball the past decade.

Nothing cracks me up more on sox talk than the amount of credit/belief given to coaches for established players development or lack there of.

Oh great. Bring back a complete asshole while you're going to be terrible again. Lots of fun!

Why?

Lol you think the white sox can afford to go another 4+ years with abysmal teams and rosters?

The White Sox couldn't give Eloy or moncada away. Hope they both turn it around but they're not pieces with value. Robert I've talked about plenty and he was not a part of my comment. What's hilarious is were talking about a 25 man roster and you got offended and named three players to say I was exaggerating.

How is it better to have no mlb pieces and to be throwing a AAA rotation for an entire season? Why do you care how expensive the roster is? I'd rather the White Sox field a team of mlb talent attempting to win a s%*# division.

Sloppy is observable I guess, but judging someone's interest feels like deciding you know someone's personality without knowing them. Feels like racial scouting tropes.

A clean slate isn't a good thing lol. If you have one mlb piece, you need a lot more than a top 10 farm system to build a roster.

No one comes into my house and rips on my family but for me.

What gives me pause is realizing you're an orioles Fan who has spent hours upon hours of his life arguing with random Sox fans on their fan message board.

Industry said the guy they just traded was bound for the bullpen so even they get lucky on these gambles on occasion

Your earlier comp of Hendricks is pretty spot on. I have no issues with that honestly. Those guys are rare, but pretty reliable. Elite command, two plus secondaries, good sequencing. He's not going to get you a 7 war Cy season but he's a 2.5-4 WAR guy for a few years.

Who cares?

I do agree people are selling thorpe short but he could get hurt tomorrow. A pitcher as the primary piece is risky and while his floor is solid for a non top 50 prospect, he's also still a pitcher.

that burnes deal is not as good from a value standpoint. Not that close imo.

Yeah, he just requires some development and we're the White Sox is my concern lol. At least he's one year older than I thought, one year less we can screw him up

Agreed. It's more than the dooms dayers said but it's not more than I expected so pretty bummed with the hype. Honestly feels about right for cease. Padres got erratic walk Cy young last year and hoping to catch lightening in a bottle twice