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Well you haven’t been able to refute the fact that there are numerous other factors that result in incorrect strike calls which none the less are attributed fully to catchers by current framing statistics, so go ahead and sigh your life away, pal. Besides we don’t have years of framing statistics on Collins to begin with. I mean do actually believe having someone on the mound like Rodon compared to Lynn has no bearing, or who the ump is? Collins hasn’t caught enough games for those discrepancies to even out when half his games are with the same pitcher. What’s the comparison in ump scores Lynn v. Rodon

How many games with the same umpire behind the plate and pitchers on the mound did they catch? Could it be in the realm of possibility that someone like Carlos Rodon or Giolito fools umpires to a much higher degree than the pitchers Grandal has caught, such as a guy that throws almost nothing but fastballs like Lynn or finesse guy like Keuchel? Is it possible that in 32 games, out of ninety umpires, Collins hasn’t caught with a significant amount of umpires in common with Grandal to compare umpire game scores?

? you mean Goodwin?

You knew even a last place twins team was going to capitalize on that

No. I remember somebody who posts on this board saying that though

Right, my point is a batter can change his natural stance. If he couldn’t, why would they need an average of the previous 50 PA? They could just measure once and leave at that. Therefore it may not reflect the actual strike zone of the particular at bat

A crouch prior to the pitch that doesn’t reflect the batters actual batting position shouldn’t have any effect, but Celestino clearly assumes a lower actual batting position while Sano a higher one. It is feasible a batter changes his actual batting position, so basing a strike zone on his position from another at bat is faulty. Lengthening the stride for example would lower the batters actual batting position. Hitting with minimal bending of the leg and short stride a higher one

Well that could be problematic as the ump is supposed to make call based on batters position for each particular pitch not an average from previous games

I’m starting to wonder if it is adjusted to the batter at all. Seemed to line up against Zack Collins the same for both Sano and Celestine even though Sano is taller with an upright stance while Celestino is crouched. Some guys belt is top of zone, other guys close to the letters

Nah that was out of the zone. The box on tv is well below Sano’s knee

What’s that? From now to year’s end? Some of those guys have already exceeded those numbers.

That said, he was playing some great baseball the last few weeks. Don’t get me wrong

No way. Not with this pitching staff and the likely return of numerous key members of the lineup. Pick up a bat; Sox just need to stay afloat in the mean time. Doesn’t matter if the Sox win 86 games or 96 it’s still possible they could have the best team in October. 98 win pace at half way point with decimated lineup while team could still be better than that team two months from now. The one thing TLR is good at is the long game. Take a step back from the ledge man This team could be hotter than shit six weeks from now

Yeah but the anti-grandal argument was that they’d be better off with someone else at half the price and related to other acquisitions that would have made possible. We don’t have that something else so either way obviously Sox are worse off without grandal. If anything the injury would support the argument considering part of it was that grandal was likely to wear down, providing diminishing returns.

Plantaris tendon goes from back of knee all the way to the heel. Everything is interconnected in the musculoskeletal system anyway. If youre compensating for one source of pain, you’re going to be using other muscles in an abnormal fashion making whatever you’re using more susceptible. Considering he was playing on a bad knee from the beginning of the season, that’s a lot of compensating. It makes sense if playing with a bad knee the compensation would primarily occur in the other leg. Besides it was reported as “calf tightness”. If the tendon was already flaring up maybe it manifested as calf tightness

My impression last time up was his catching was well beyond his hitting. Dude had one of the longest swings I’ve seen for a hitter in mlb

What tears off?

That definitely ain’t the case

I don’t know, maybe TLR doesn’t want his entire starting lineup on the IL

Do you not understand how the IL works or what

TLR has been pretty consistent with the handling of rookies. He’s going to do what he thinks is best for their development and transition into mlb rather than the immediate game need. We’ve still got a five game lead and almost 80 games to go. No reason to panic and abandon whatever the plan for the rookies is just yet when there is reinforcements of one form or another on the way

He’s played every game since 6/14

A fifth rd left handed catcher with power and above average plate discipline advances to AAA, puts up a .950 ops while improving defensively and never gets to the majors? I don’t think that’s accurate

Welcome to the club

Seemed like the heat was getting to him. Almost looked like he was staggering a couple times, eyes glassy and his face was flush