Controlled Chaos

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 10:55 AM) Lol well you are 38 and the movie was mostly geared too the 16-30 or so group. But yeah I thought it was one of the funniest movies I have seen in a long time. I'm 34 and I thought it was pretty funny. I remember the days back when all I cared about was getting laid and trying to get booze. Hanging around the liquor store saying...Can you get me a run? Can you get me a run? Now that I think of it what the f*** is a run? The people that ignored me probably did so cause I was asking them for a run instead of booze, but hey that's what we did in the day.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?...338540894115504 This was a slickdeal Tex, but it went out of stock fast. Maybe you can find a local one that has it in stock...I'm not sure if they'll honor their online price though. EDIT: BACK IN STOCK>>>HURRY IF YOU WANT IT

QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 10:34 PM) I agree with that statement, but what makes Schilling that guy? Better yet, what's better? Talking trash about a guy who did steroids or campaigning for a cokehead? What makes you that guy??? Who are you to say what you just said? I don't think Bush was a cokehead when he was runing for pres. I'm sure you were an asshole at various moments of your life....how about I let the follow you around forever. From now on whenever I see you post you will be known as ASSHOLE.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 08:01 AM) I can kind of relate to what Schilling is saying here. I want Giambi to give Frank his MVP award. So do I and it is the one example where it is absolutely the right thing to do.

It's weird cause everything I have seen reported only states Giambi as cooperationg with the investigation. Why is everyone leaving Frank out?

They are reporting on Boers and Bernstein that wnbc is standing behind their list that came out earlier...That it was from two sources that were invovled with the report and the final report only has the names that they had concrete evidence on.... TIFWIW There are a few additinal names...Sosa being one of them. Glaus is another.... I guess things will clear themselves up soon enough List of players named in Mitchell Report: Mitchell Report (pdf) Allen, Chad Ankiel, Rick Bell, David Bell, Mike Bennett Jr., Gary Bonds, Barry Brown, Kevin Byrd, Paul Cabrera, Alex Caminiti , Ken Carreon, Mark Christiansen, Jason Clark, Howie Clemens, Roger Conseco, Jose Cust, Jack Donnels, Chris Donnelly, Brendan Dykstra , Len Franco, Matt Franklin, Ryan Gagne, Eric Giambi, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Gibbons, Jay Glaus, Troy Gonzalez, Juan Grimsley, Jason Guillen, Jose Hairston Jr., Jerry Herges, Matt Hiatt, Phil Hill, Glenallen Holmes, Darren Hundley, Todd Jorgernson, Ryan Justice, David Knoblauch, Chuck Laker, Tim Lansing, Mike Lo Duca, Paul Logan, Exavier Manzanillo, Josias Matthews, Jr. Gary McKay, Cody Mercker, Kent McGwire, Mark Miadich, Bart Naulty, Daniel Neagle, Denny Morris, Hal Palmeiro, Rafael Parque, Jim Pettitte, Andy Pratt, Todd Randolph, Stephen Rocker, John Riggs, Adam Rios, Armando Roberts, Brian Santangelo, F.P. Santiago , Benito Schoenweis, Scott Segui, David Sheffield, Gary Sosa, Sammy Stanton, Mike Tejada, Miguel Valdez, Ismael Vaughn, Mo Velarde, Randy Villone, Ron Vina, Fernando White, Rondell Willaims, Jeff Williams, Matt Williams, Todd Woodard, Steve Young, Kevin Zaun, Gregg

QUOTE(iamshack @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 03:14 PM) I think it's interesting that nearly everyone who has posted thus far has implied a very negative reaction or stance towards the players who have used steroids. I've commented several times in this thread that the owners, upper-level execs, and managers were fully aware of exactly what was going on in most instances. And yet I've not commented positively or negatively regarding the players. And I won't, because I think this subject is enormously complex. Why are the players the one's taking such a huge hit here? Why not the rest of the baseball industry? Why so harsh to judge the players, and no one else? Well if someone has pictures of Reinsdorf coming down to the clubhouse passing out vials to players...then I'll put some more of the blame on Jerry. These are grown men that decided to do this...and when it comes to blame...I'd like to go with the guys that made their own bed.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) I think he was going in anyway, but yeah, I'd say his shot at first ballot went up. Well he's getting no credit in this article...that's for sure "Giambi, under threat of discipline from Selig, was the only current player known to have cooperated with the Mitchell investigation." Also, this same thing was just repeated by Boers

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:35 PM) This was the list as best as I could put together. (Sorry if I missed anyone): Marvin Benard, Barry Bonds. Bobby Estalella, Jason Giambi. Jeremy Giambi, Benito Santiago, Gary Sheffield, Randy Velarde, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Larry Bigbie, Brian Roberts, Jack Cust, Tim Laker, Josias Manzanillo, Todd Hundley, Mark Carreon, Hal Morris, Matt Franco, Rondell White, Roger Clemens, Chuck Knoblauch, Jason Grimsley, Gregg Zaun, David Justice, F.P. Santangelo, Glenallen Hill, Mo Vaughn, Denny Neagle, Ron Villone, Ryan Franklin, Chris Donnels, Todd Williams, Phil Hiatt, Todd Pratt, Kevin Young, Mike Lansing, Cody McKay, Kent Mercker, Adam Piatt, Miguel Tejada, Jason Christiansen, Mike Stanton, Stephen Randolph, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Paul Lo Duca, Adam Riggs, Bart Miadich, Fernando Vina, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagné, Mike Bell, Matt Herges, Gary Bennett, Jr., Jim Parque, Brendan Donnelly, Chad Allen, Jeff Williams, Howie Clark, Nook Logan, Daniel Naulty, Jay Gibbons, Rick Ankiel, David Bell, Paul Byrd, Jose Canseco, Troy Glaus, Jason Grimsley, Jose Guillen, Darren Holmes, Gary Matthews, Jr., John Rocker, Scott Schoeneweis, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, Steve Woodard http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1548718 I think Juan Gonzalez can be added to the list...there's stuff like this all through the report...There's isn't just a nice list of names....I'm sure someone will weed through it all soon enough. Nice job Athomeboy!! On the evening of October 4, 2001, Canadian Border Service officers working at Toronto’s international airport discovered steroids, syringes, and clenbuterol in an unmarked duffel bag during an airport search of luggage that had been unloaded from the Cleveland Indians flight from Kansas City.266 Ted Walsh, the Indians equipment and clubhouse manager 266 Facsimile from Adelia Piazza to Rob Manfred, dated Oct. 22, 2001. See also T.J. Quinn, Michael O’Keefe & Christian Red, Bag Men: Gonzalez & trainer linked to 2001 steroid probe, N.Y. Daily News, July 30, 2006, at 96. Clenbuterol is not an anabolic steroid, but it is 96 who was present during the search, recognized the bag as one that had been sent down to be included with the luggage by Cleveland outfielder Juan Gonzalez when the Indians left Kansas City. On prior trips, Gonzalez had included bags for members of his entourage with his own bags, and Walsh had the impression that this was the case with some of the bags he sent down to be packed for the Toronto flight. The customs officials requested Walsh to bring all of the luggage except the bag in question to the team hotel as normal, which he did. The Indians resident security agent, Jim Davidson, who was traveling with the team because of heightened security after the attacks of September 11, 2001, met with local law enforcement officers in the hotel lobby. Mark Haynes, the Canadian Border Service officer in charge of the investigation, told Davidson that syringes and anabolic steroids had been found in the bag and that officers were going to replace the bag with the Indians luggage to see who claimed it. Haynes also opened the bag and showed Davidson the hypodermic needles, ampules, and other paraphernalia. Thereafter, Davidson, Haynes, and other officials watched the luggage as Joshue Perez, a member of Juan Gonzalez’s entourage, claimed the duffel bag. With Davidson present, Haynes and other officers took Perez to an anteroom, where he told them that the bag belonged to Angel (“Nao”) Presinal, Gonzalez’s personal trainer, who would be arriving in Toronto on a later flight. As soon as he arrived at the hotel, Presinal was detained by law enforcement officers. In an interview at the hotel, Presinal denied that the bag belonged to him and asserted that it belonged to, and had been packed by, Gonzalez. Haynes and Toronto police officers then used by bodybuilders in the belief that it helps them to become leaner. It is a veterinary medicine that is not approved for use by humans in the United States. See R.C. Kammerer, Testing in Sport & Exercise, in Performance-Enhancing Substances in Sport & Exercise 323, 331 (Michael S. Bahrke and Charles E. Yesalis eds. 2002). 97 went to Gonzalez’s room to question him about the bag. Although he had been present for the interview of Presinal, Davidson was not invited to attend the interview of Gonzalez. After that interview, Haynes reported that Gonzalez had denied any knowledge about the bag’s contents and claimed that he had sent it down to be included with the team’s luggage at Presinal’s request. According to Davidson’s account of the incident, during further questioning Presinal admitted that he had packed the steroids but claimed that he carried them for Gonzalez, whom he helped to administer them. Davidson reported that Presinal also claimed to have assisted several other high-profile major league players in taking steroids. In our interview of him in 2007, Presinal denied that he made any such statements. He asserted that he has no knowledge of the involvement of any player in Major League Baseball with anabolic steroids or other performance enhancing substances. The next day, Davidson and Toronto’s resident security agent Wayne Cotgreave had a conference call with Kevin Hallinan of the Commissioner’s Office’s security department and members of his staff. Hallinan said that the matter would be handled from the Commissioner’s Office in New York. Although Hallinan told Davidson that his office would investigate the matter, there is no evidence that such an investigation ever was conducted beyond a search for Presinal’s Cleveland address. None of the eyewitnesses whom we interviewed during the course of our investigation was contacted by anyone about the incident until a news report about it appeared in July 2006. Davidson was never asked to perform any follow-up work with respect to the matter. Rob Manfred told us that he did not believe a strong case could be made for “reasonable cause” testing of Gonzalez because of conflicting statements by Presinal, Gonzalez, and others about who the bag and steroids belonged to. Manfred nevertheless contacted Gene 98 Orza of the Players Association about testing Gonzalez, but Orza refused to agree in this instance. Manfred did not ask Orza for the Players Association’s permission to interview Gonzalez because he thought such an interview would be fruitless even if the Players Association agreed to it. According to the July 2006 article, Presinal was “declared a pariah” by the Commissioner’s Office after the events in Toronto in 2001, an assertion that Hallinan repeated in our interview of him.267 By early in the 2002 season, however, Presinal was observed in and around the clubhouse of the Texas Rangers (where Juan Gonzalez was playing at the time). Sign-in records indicate that Presinal was in the Rangers clubhouse frequently that season. The Rangers also reserved (but did not pay for) rooms for Presinal at the club’s hotels that season. The Rangers’ general manager, John Hart, was aware of the October 2001 incident and Presinal’s alleged role in it, since Hart joined the Rangers from the Indians after the 2001 season and supported the Rangers’ decision to sign Gonzalez in 2002. In the summer of 2005, Presinal was profiled by Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times for his in-season training of Bartolo Colon of the Los Angeles Angels.268 After Presinal was spotted in the Rangers clubhouse in 2002, Major League Baseball’s security department alerted all clubs and removed Presinal from the Texas ballpark; he also was removed from the ballpark in Anaheim when he later was spotted there. Presinal remains a prominent personal trainer for a number of professional baseball players, operating out of facilities in the Dominican Republic. He also has worked with players during the season in the United States. He was selected by the Dominican Baseball 267 See T.J. Quinn, Michael O’Keefe & Christian Red, Bag Men: Gonzalez & trainer linked to 2001 steroid probe, N.Y. Daily News, July 30, 2006, at 96. 268 See Bill Shaikin, Colon Trying to Tip the Scales, L.A. Times, July 12, 2005, at D6. 99 Federation to serve as a trainer for the Dominican Republic national team during the inaugural World Baseball Classic in spring 2006, which included on its roster a number of players and coaches from Major League Baseball.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:39 PM) Cubs were a pharmacy. It is pretty crazy how many played for them.

Information Provided by a Former Major League Player Matt Karchner pitched for two teams in Major League Baseball between 1995 and 2000, the Chicago Cubs and the Chicago White Sox. Members of my investigative staff contacted him as part of our effort to interview former major league players. Karchner said that during spring training in 1999, he observed two of his Chicago Cubs teammates inject themselves with steroids in an apartment that Karchner was sharing with them. Karchner declined to identify the players. He said that one of the players brought the steroids to the apartment but was afraid of needles and therefore asked the second player to administer the shot. The second player injected the first player with steroids in the buttocks and then injected himself. Later that season, Karchner was offered steroids by certain of his Cubs teammates. Karchner would not disclose the names of players who offered him steroids, but he said that the conversations he had with them involved the general cost of steroids and discussions of “stacking” to build lean muscle necessary for pitchers. Karchner did not report either of these incidents to anyone at the time.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) I like on page 216 how the Dodgers had a meeting and suspected the Kevin Brown was roidin, then traded him 2 months later. LOL Kevin Brown – getting to the age of nagging injuries . . . Question what kind of medication he takes . . . Effectiveness goes down covering 1st base or running bases. Common in soccer players and are more susceptible if you take meds to increase your muscles – doesn’t increase the attachments. Is he open to adjusting how he takes care of himself? He knows he now needs to do stuff before 217 coming to spring training to be ready. Steroids speculated by GM.422 Less than two months later, the Dodgers traded Brown to the Yankees.423 In order to provide Brown with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

QUOTE(Linnwood @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) It wasn't just on ESPN. I'm watching on the MLB.tv thing, and I heard that too. Yep I head it on AP video.

Jim Parque Jim Parque pitched in Major League Baseball for the Chicago White Sox and Tampa Bay Devil Rays from 1998 through 2003. In 2004, he played for Arizona’s class AAA affiliate. He announced his retirement at the end of that season because of shoulder injuries, but in 2007 he played for Seattle’s class AAA affiliate. Radomski did not recall who referred Parque to him but said that he made two sales of human growth hormone to him. Radomski said that during the 2003 off-season Parque sent Radomski a bottle of Winstrol to “check out.” Radomski determined it was “no good” and discarded it. Radomski produced two checks from Parque. The first was dated October 18, 2003 in the amount of $3,200; the second was dated December 6, 2003 in the amount of $1,600. Both are included in the Appendix. One is shown below.

It's crazy how all this is linked from one player to the next.... Eric Gagné Eric Gagné is a relief pitcher who began his career in Major League Baseball with the Los Angeles Dodgers in 1999 and played with the Dodgers through 2006. In 2007, he played for the Texas Rangers and the Boston Red Sox, and in December he signed with the Milwaukee Brewers. In 2002 and 2003, Gagné was the Los Angeles Dodgers Player of the Year. In 2003, he saved 55 games and won the Cy Young Award and the National League Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year. In 2004, he saved 45 games and again won the National League Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year. He has played in three All-Star games. Paul Lo Duca and Gagné were teammates with the Dodgers from 1999 to 2004. Although he is not sure when, Radomski recalled that Lo Duca called Radomski and told Radomski that Gagné was with him and wanted to buy human growth hormone. Gagné then came onto the phone and asked Radomski a question about how to get air out of a syringe. This is the only time Radomski spoke to Gagné. Radomski said that Lo Duca thereafter placed orders on Gagné’s behalf. Radomski said that he mailed two shipments to Gagné, each consisting of two kits of human growth hormone. One was sent to Gagné’s home in Florida; the other was sent to Dodger Stadium. Federal agents seized from Radomski’s home a copy of an Express Mail 422 See supra at 131 (discussing meetings and notes). 423 See Tyler Kepner, Sheffield Thinks Twice; No Hesitation for Brown, N.Y. Times, Dec. 15, 2003, at Sports 1. 218 receipt showing a shipment to “Dodger Stadium, c/o Eric Gagne – L.A. Dodgers Home Club, 1000 Elysian Park Ave., Los Angeles, California 90012” dated August 9, 2004. A copy of this receipt is included in the Appendix and is shown below. Radomski said that this was for one of the shipments of human growth hormone to Gagné. Lo Duca paid Radomski for one of the shipments to Gagné by cashier’s check in the amount of $3,200. The Lo Duca checks supplied by Radomski reflect two payments of $3,200 (each the cost of two kits) within a six-week time frame during the summer of 2004. Radomski said that, on one other occasion, Gagné sent Radomski $3,200 in cash by FedEx. 219 According to notes of the October 2003 meetings of Dodgers officials, it was reportedly said of Gagné that: “he probably takes medication and tendons and ligaments don’t build up just the muscle.”424 When the Boston Red Sox were considering acquiring Gagné, a Red Sox official made specific inquiries about Gagné’s possible use of steroids. In a November 1, 2006 email to a Red Sox scout, general manager Theo Epstein asked, “Have you done any digging on Gagne? I know the Dodgers think he was a steroid guy. Maybe so. What do you hear on his medical?”425 The scout, Mark Delpiano, responded, Some digging on Gagne and steroids IS the issue. Has had a checkered medical past throughout career including minor leagues. Lacks the poise and commitment to stay healthy, maintain body and re invent self. What made him a tenacious closer was the max effort plus stuff . . . Mentality without the plus weapons and without steroid help probably creates a large risk in bounce back durability and ability to throw average while allowing the changeup to play as it once did . . . Personally, durability (or lack of) will follow Gagne . . .426 In order to provide Gagné with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:16 PM) Astros must be thrilled that they just traded for Miguel Tejada. Miguel Tejada Miguel Tejada is a shortstop who has played for two teams in Major League Baseball since 1997, the Oakland Athletics (7 seasons) and Baltimore Orioles (4 seasons). He was the American League Most Valuable Player in 2002. He played in every game from June 2, 2000 until June 21, 2007, the fifth longest streak of consecutive games played in Major League 202 Baseball history. Tejada has played in four All-Star games and was the Most Valuable Player of the 2005 All-Star game. In 2003, Adam Piatt’s locker was located next to Tejada’s in the Oakland Athletics clubhouse. According to Piatt, Tejada asked specifically if he had any steroids. Piatt believed that Tejada asked him because Piatt was in good shape and generally friendly with him. Piatt had several conversations with Tejada before a transaction occurred. Piatt admitted he had access to steroids and human growth hormone and agreed to obtain them for Tejada. Piatt recalled that he provided Tejada with testosterone or Deca-Durabolin, as well as human growth hormone. Piatt emphasized that he did not know whether Tejada actually used the substances. Piatt’s bank provided two checks deposited into Piatt’s account that had been written to him from Miguel Tejada. The checks are dated March 21, 2003 and are in the amounts of $3,100 and $3,200 respectively. Both are included in the Appendix; one is shown below. Separately, before our interviews of him, Piatt also spoke with federal agents by telephone. Piatt had his personal lawyer present for this call, as he did in his meetings with me 203 and my investigative staff. The federal agents later advised my staff that Piatt also informed them of Piatt’s sales to Tejada during their telephone interview. Radomski recalled receiving a call from Piatt during which he said he needed extra testosterone because “one of the guys wanted some.” In a later conversation, Piatt told Radomski that the testosterone was for his teammate, Miguel Tejada. Radomski never spoke, or sold performance enhancing substances, directly to Tejada. Radomski provided this information to me without knowledge that I had spoken to Piatt or that I was otherwise aware of Piatt’s alleged sales to Tejada. Similarly, Piatt was unaware of any statements by Radomski on this subject when he was interviewed by my investigative staff. As discussed earlier in this report, Tejada was interviewed as part of a congressional investigation into whether Rafael Palmeiro had lied under oath about his use of performance enhancing substances during a March 17, 2005 congressional committee hearing.408 In that investigation, Palmeiro said he had received injectable, and legal, vitamin B12 from Tejada; Palmeiro said it was possible the vitamin B12 had been tainted and had been the reason for his positive test for steroids. Tejada admitted to investigators that he provided injectable vitamin B12 to Palmeiro and two other unidentified Orioles players during the 2005 season. The congressional report said that the Players Association had tested another vial of vitamin B12 provided by Tejada and it showed no signs of steroids.409 Tejada is also mentioned in two books on the subject. In Juicing the Game, the author Howard Bryant wrote that during the 2002 season, an airport security screener found a syringe in Tejada’s briefcase. Tejada reportedly explained that he received a supply of vitamin 408 See supra at 103-06; see also H. Comm. on Gov’t Reform, Report on Investigation Into Rafael Palmeiro’s March 17, 2005 Testimony Before the Comm. on Gov’t Reform, at 6 (109th Cong. 2005) (“Palmeiro Report”). 409 Palmeiro Report at 9-10, 25, 27. 204 B12 from the Dominican Republic that he administered to himself.410 Mickey Morabito, the director of team travel for the Oakland Athletics, confirmed the incident in an interview with my investigative staff. He acknowledged that he did not report the incident to anyone with the club or the Commissioner’s Office. In his book Juiced, Jose Canseco wrote that, in 1997, when he and Tejada were teammates on the Athletics, they discussed the use of performance enhancing substances: I started giving him [Tejada] advice about steroids, and he seemed interested in what I was saying. Tejada and I had a secret weapon: We could speak in Spanish, which made it easier to talk about whatever he wanted, even if there were reporters around.411 Tejada denied that he had ever had any discussions with Canseco about steroids. He was further reported to say: “I work very hard to keep in shape and any suggestion that I use steroids, or any banned substance is insulting and not worth discussing further.”412 In December 2005, Texas Rangers owner Thomas O. Hicks and general manager Jon Daniels engaged in an email exchange about possible trade discussions. In one email, Daniels stated that he had “some steroids concerns with Tejada,” and cited Tejada’s decreased productivity over the second half of the 2005 season.413 In order to provide Tejada with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined. 410 Howard Bryant, Juicing The Game 335 (Plume 2005). 411 Jose Canseco, Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant ‘Roids, Smash Hits and How Baseball Got Big 177 (Regan Books 2005). 412 See Associated Press, Report: FBI Agent Says He Warned MLB about Steroid Use, Chi. Sun-Times, Feb. 16, 2005, at 134. 413 Email from Jon Daniels to Thomas O. Hicks, dated Dec. 15, 2005.

Clemens stuff starts on page 167...I'll post it here for those too lazy to go read it...but it's easier to read in the report Roger Clemens Roger Clemens is a pitcher who, from 1984 to 2007, played for four teams in Major League Baseball, the Boston Red Sox (13 seasons), Toronto Blue Jays (2 seasons), New York Yankees (6 seasons), and Houston Astros (3 seasons). He has won more than 350 games, seven Cy Young Awards, and was the American League Most Valuable Player in 1986. He was named to All-Star teams eleven times. During the Radomski investigation, federal law enforcement officials identified Brian McNamee as one of Radomski’s customers and a possible sub-distributor. McNamee, through his attorney, entered into a written agreement with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of California. The agreement provides that McNamee will cooperate with the U.S. Attorney’s Office. No truthful statements can be used against McNamee in any federal prosecution by that Office; if, however, he should be untruthful in any statements made pursuant to that agreement, he may be charged with criminal violations, including making false statements, which is a felony. As part of his cooperation with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, and at its request, McNamee agreed to three interviews by me and my staff, one in person and two by telephone. McNamee’s personal lawyer participated in the interviews. Also participating were federal prosecutors and agents from the F.B.I. and the Internal Revenue Service. On each occasion, 168 McNamee was advised that he could face criminal charges if he made any false statements during these interviews, which were deemed by the prosecutors to be subject to his written agreement with the U.S. Attorney’s Office. McNamee attended St. John’s University in New York from 1985 to 1989, majoring in athletic administration. At St. John’s, he played baseball. From 1990 to May 1993, he was a New York City police officer. In 1993, McNamee met Tim McCleary, the assistant general manager of the New York Yankees, who also had attended St. John’s. McCleary hired McNamee as a bullpen catcher and batting practice pitcher for the New York Yankees. In 1995, McNamee was released from his duties after Joe Torre was named the new Yankees manager. From 1995 to 1998, McNamee trained “Olympic caliber athletes” outside of baseball. In 1995, McCleary was hired as the assistant general manager for the Toronto Blue Jays. In 1998, that club hired McNamee as its strength and conditioning coach, and he served in that position from 1998 to 2000. Roger Clemens signed with Toronto in 1997, after spending the first thirteen years of his career with the Red Sox. After McNamee began working for the Blue Jays in 1998, he and Clemens both lived at the Toronto SkyDome (there is a hotel attached to the stadium). McNamee and Clemens became close professionally while in Toronto, but they were not close socially or personally. Jose Canseco was playing for the Blue Jays in 1998. On or about June 8-10, 1998, the Toronto Blue Jays played an away series with the Florida Marlins. McNamee attended a lunch party that Canseco hosted at his home in Miami. McNamee stated that, during this luncheon, he observed Clemens, Canseco, and another person he did not know meeting inside 169 Canseco’s house, although McNamee did not personally attend that meeting. Canseco told members of my investigative staff that he had numerous conversations with Clemens about the benefits of Deca-Durabolin and Winstrol and how to “cycle” and “stack” steroids. Canseco has made similar statements publicly.385 Toward the end of the road trip which included the Marlins series, or shortly after the Blue Jays returned home to Toronto, Clemens approached McNamee and, for the first time, brought up the subject of using steroids. Clemens said that he was not able to inject himself, and he asked for McNamee’s help. Later that summer, Clemens asked McNamee to inject him with Winstrol, which Clemens supplied. McNamee knew the substance was Winstrol because the vials Clemens gave him were so labeled. McNamee injected Clemens approximately four times in the buttocks over a several-week period with needles that Clemens provided. Each incident took place in Clemens’s apartment at the SkyDome. McNamee never asked Clemens where he obtained the steroids. During the 1998 season (around the time of the injections), Clemens showed McNamee a white bottle of Anadrol-50.386 Clemens told McNamee he was not using it but wanted to know more about it. McNamee told Clemens not to use it. McNamee said he took the 385 Jose Canseco, Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant ‘Roids, Smash Hits and How Baseball Got Big 211-13 (Regan Books 2005). 386 Anadrol 50 is the brand name for oxymetholone and, according to a reference book targeted at steroid abusers, “is considered by many to be the most powerful steroid commercially available.” See William Llewellyn, Anabolics 2006 99 (5th ed. 2006). It can harm the liver and produce pronounced androgenic side effects. Id. at 100. 170 bottle and gave it to Canseco.387 McNamee does not know where Clemens obtained the Anadrol-50. According to McNamee, from the time that McNamee injected Clemens with Winstrol through the end of the 1998 season, Clemens’s performance showed remarkable improvement. During this period of improved performance, Clemens told McNamee that the steroids “had a pretty good effect” on him. McNamee said that Clemens also was training harder and dieting better during this time. In 1999, Clemens was traded to the New York Yankees. McNamee remained under contract with the Blue Jays for the 1999 season. In 2000, the Yankees hired McNamee as the assistant strength and conditioning coach under Jeff Mangold. According to McNamee, the Yankees hired him because Clemens persuaded them to do so. In this capacity, McNamee worked with all of the Yankees players. McNamee was paid both by the Yankees and by Clemens personally. Clemens hired McNamee to train him during portions of several weeks in the off-season. McNamee also trained Clemens personally for one to two weeks during spring training and a few times during the season. McNamee served as the Yankees’ assistant strength and conditioning coach through the 2001 season.388 McNamee first learned about Kirk Radomski through David Segui during the 2000 season. Also that season, McNamee obtained Radomski’s telephone number from Jason Grimsley. McNamee wanted to buy a Lexus, and Radomski had a connection with a Lexus dealer. Radomski recalled that Grimsley was a frequent customer for performance enhancing 387 McNamee stated that he showed the bottle to Canseco because he thought that Canseco was knowledgeable and he felt comfortable approaching him. According to McNamee, Canseco volunteered to take the bottle. 388 In his own interview, Mangold was reluctant to discuss McNamee in any respect. Mangold said that he was not aware of, and never suspected, any player of using performance enhancing substances. 171 substances, and he produced nine checks written by Grimsley to Radomski during 2001 and 2002 and fourteen checks in total. According to McNamee, during the middle of the 2000 season Clemens made it clear that he was ready to use steroids again. During the latter part of the regular season, McNamee injected Clemens in the buttocks four to six times with testosterone from a bottle labeled either Sustanon 250 or Deca-Durabolin that McNamee had obtained from Radomski. McNamee stated that during this same time period he also injected Clemens four to six times with human growth hormone he received from Radomski, after explaining to Clemens the potential benefits and risks of use. McNamee believed that it was probably his idea that Clemens try human growth hormone. Radomski instructed McNamee how to inject human growth hormone. On each occasion, McNamee administered the injections at Clemens’s apartment in New York City. McNamee said that he and Clemens did not have any conversations regarding performance enhancing substances from late 2000 until August 2001. McNamee did, however, train Clemens and Andy Pettitte during the off-season at their homes in Houston. Clemens often invited other major league players who lived in the Houston area to train with him. McNamee’s training relationship with Clemens and others has been described publicly. Peter Gammons reported during spring training 2001: Brandon Smith, an apprentice trainer with the Yankees, describes Roger Clemens’ day as follows: “He’s one of the first players in every morning, runs, does his program with Andy Pettitte, does the team program workout, goes to the weight room, leaves, plays 18 holes of golf and finally meets (trainer) Brian McNamee at 6 .. . . and a few other players – for another workout. It’s incredible how much energy Roger has.”389 389 Peter Gammons, Indians Expecting Better Year, espn.com, Mar. 11, 2001; see also Gary Graves, Clemens on Fire with Desire; Rigorous Workouts Keep 38-year-old All-Star Sharp, In Shape, USA Today, July 10, 2001, at C3. 172 According to McNamee, Clemens advised him in August 2001 that he was again ready to use steroids. Shortly thereafter, McNamee injected Clemens with Sustanon or Deca- Durabolin on four to five occasions at Clemens’s apartment. According to McNamee, he again obtained these drugs from Kirk Radomski. McNamee concluded from Clemens’s statements and conduct that Clemens did not like using human growth hormone (Clemens told him that he did not like the “bellybutton shot”). To McNamee’s knowledge, Clemens did not use human growth hormone in 2001. McNamee was not retained by the Yankees after the 2001 season. After that season, Clemens never again asked McNamee to inject him with performance enhancing substances, and McNamee had no further discussions with Clemens about such substances. McNamee stated that Clemens did not tell him why he stopped asking him to administer performance enhancing substances, and McNamee has no knowledge about whether Clemens used performance enhancing substances after 2001. During the years that McNamee stated he facilitated Clemens’s use of steroids and human growth hormone, McNamee’s discussions with Clemens about use of these drugs were limited. McNamee assumed that Clemens used performance enhancing substances during the second half of the season so that he would not tire, but they did not discuss this directly. It was Clemens who made the decision when he would use anabolic steroids or human growth hormone. McNamee stated that he tried to educate Clemens about these substances; he “gave him as much information as possible.” Clemens continued to train with McNamee after he was dismissed by the Yankees, according to both McNamee and press reports. In October 2006, after the Los Angeles Times reported that the names of Clemens and McNamee were among those that had been 173 redacted from an affidavit in support of a search warrant for the residence of Jason Grimsley as allegedly involved with the illegal use of performance enhancing substances, Clemens was reported to have said: “I’ll continue to use Mac [McNamee] to train me. He’s one of a kind.”390 McNamee was quoted in a December 10, 2006 news article on steroids as reportedly having said: “I never, ever gave Clemens or Pettitte steroids. They never asked me for steroids. The only thing they asked me for were vitamins.”391 McNamee told us that he was accurately quoted but that he did not tell the truth to the reporter who interviewed him. He explained that he was trying to protect his reputation. On May 15, 2007, the New York Daily News reported that Clemens had cut ties to McNamee.392 McNamee denied that and told us that he trained Clemens after the article was published. He added that Clemens now has a home in the New York area, and McNamee personally installed a gym there. McNamee stated that he has no ill will toward Clemens and “was always ahead [financially] with Roger.” McNamee received money for expenses from Clemens’s business representatives. They paid McNamee for training Clemens, and for his expenses. From time to time Clemens also gave McNamee “extra money.” Clemens never gave money to McNamee specifically to buy performance enhancing substances. Kirk Radomski recalled meeting McNamee through David Segui. Radomski confirmed that he supplied McNamee with human growth hormone and anabolic steroids from 390 Jack Curry, Cloud Over Clemens’s Finale: He and Pettitte Deny Report, N.Y. Times, Oct. 2, 2006, at D1; Lance Pugmire, The Nation; Clemens Is Named in Drug Affidavit, L.A. Times, Oct. 1, 2006, at A1. 391 See William Sherman and T.J. Quinn, Andy Totes Baggage to Bronx, N.Y. Daily News, Dec. 10, 2006, at 56. McNamee’s interactions with Pettitte are discussed below. 392 Christian Red with T.J. Quinn, Roger Seeking Workout Help, N.Y. Daily News, May 15, 2007. 174 2000 to 2004. Although McNamee never told Radomski the performance enhancing substances obtained were for anything other than McNamee’s personal use, Radomski concluded that McNamee was distributing the substances to others based on the amounts he purchased and the timing of the purchases. Radomski knew McNamee was acting as personal trainer for Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and Chuck Knoblauch (among others), and he suspected McNamee was giving the performance enhancing substances to some of his clients. Occasionally, McNamee acknowledged good performances by Knoblauch or Clemens by “dropping hints,” such as “[h]e’s on the program now.” McNamee never explicitly told Radomski that either Clemens or Pettitte was using steroids or human growth hormone. According to Radomski, however, McNamee asked Radomski what types of substances Radomski was providing to pitchers. Radomski delivered the substances to McNamee personally. Radomski recalled numerous performance enhancing substance transactions with McNamee. Radomski also sometimes trained some of McNamee’s non-professional athlete clients. Radomski produced four checks from McNamee that were deposited into Radomski’s checking account and drawn on McNamee’s checking account.393 All the checks were dated in 2003 and 2004, after McNamee said that he supplied Clemens, Pettitte, and Knoblauch. McNamee said these purchases were for non-baseball clients. McNamee’s name, with an address and telephone number, is listed in the address book seized from Radomski’s residence by federal agents. Radomski’s telephone records show twelve calls to McNamee’s telephone number from May through August 2004. Radomski was 393 One of the checks, in the amount of $2,400, includes a memo stating “Loan Repay Sub.” Radomski confirmed that he never loaned McNamee any money and that the check had been for one-and-a-half kits of human growth hormone. 175 unable to obtain telephone records dating back to the time when, according to McNamee, McNamee was injecting Clemens. Clemens appears to be one of the two people associated with baseball – Andy Pettitte is the other – who have remained loyal to McNamee after he left the Yankees.394 Clemens has remained a source of income for McNamee up to and including 2007. Prior to my interviews of McNamee he was interviewed by federal officials on several occasions, during each of which they informed McNamee that he risked criminal prosecution if he was not truthful. I was advised by those officials that on each occasion he told them about the performance enhancing substance use of Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and Chuck Knoblauch (Pettitte and Knoblauch are discussed below). In order to provide Clemens with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

Todd Hundley Todd Hundley played as a catcher with three teams in Major League Baseball from 1990 until 2003 (the New York Mets, Los Angeles Dodgers, and Chicago Cubs). He was with the Mets from 1990 to 1998. He played in All-Star games in 1996 and 1997. Radomski has known Hundley since 1988, when Radomski worked for the Mets and Hundley played in the Mets’ minor league system.380 Radomski stated that, beginning in 1996, he sold Deca-Durabolin and testosterone to Hundley on three or four occasions. At the beginning of that year, Radomski told Hundley that if he used steroids, he would hit 40 home runs. Hundley hit 41 home runs in 1996, having never hit more than 16 in any prior year. After the season, Radomski said, Hundley took him out to dinner. Chris Donnels played with Hundley in 2000 when they were both with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Donnels admitted to my investigative staff that Radomski supplied him with performance enhancing substances. Donnels recalled having extensive discussions with Hundley about his performance enhancing substance use and about Radomski while they were teammates. Hundley’s name, with two addresses and three telephone numbers, is listed in the address book seized by federal agents from Radomski’s residence. In order to provide Hundley with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

Brian Roberts Brian Roberts is an infielder who has played for the Baltimore Orioles since 2001. He has been selected to two All-Star teams. Roberts and Larry Bigbie were both rookies in 2001. According to Bigbie, both he and Roberts lived in Segui’s house in the Baltimore area during the latter part of that season. When Bigbie and Segui used steroids in the house, Roberts did not participate. According to Bigbie, however, in 2004 Roberts admitted to him that he had injected himself once or twice with steroids in 2003. Until this admission, Bigbie had never suspected Roberts of using steroids. In order to provide Roberts with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

Clemen's is really nailed in this report

I think 5 at 12 million was reasonable. If 5 years instead of 4 was the sticking point that's ridiculous. I can understand some people saying hey we're rebuilding anyway, but the fact is that has not been the comany line. We are supposedly going balls out after it right now. So far this offseason...I don't see any thing remotely close to balls out. Peolpe can say we're rebuilding cause we've sucked....but we haven't moved our veterans for any young guys to show were rebuilding. It's like the team is influx right now.

I wanted him here....Glad he got his payday though.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=MLB Giants agreed to terms with outfielder Aaron Rowand, who had been witht he Phillies, on a five-year contract. The Giants were lucky last year when they missed out on Gary Matthews Jr. and Juan Pierre despite competitive offers. Still, no one really expected Brian Sabean to learn his lesson. Rowand gets a five-year deal at what's surely more than $10 million per season (probably at least $12 million) despite having just two particularly good seasons under his belt. He's a fine player even when he's posting 750 OPSs, but he's probably not going to age well because of the way he throws his body around and he's not the big-time middle-of-the-order threat the Giants needed. The team was already paying Randy Winn and Dave Roberts as if they were center fielders. Dec. 12 - 3:48 pm et

Tip everyone...have fun. Whether you like to gamble or not....set yourself a limit on what to gamble each day.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 08:33 PM) The problem with The Truth About Cats and Dogs is that Janeane G. is very cute and so her insecurities, as well as her "you're not just a dumb b**** -- you're an ugly b****!" encounters are completely unrealistic, therefore destroying the whole film Wow....I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe Janeane Garofalo as very cute. To each his own.