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  1. 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    I can’t wait for the day that we never have to hear Rick’s lawyer speaking ass make excuses for poor results.  I’d wager large sums of money that no GM in Big Four sports history has served in such a capacity for 10+ years and has a worse winning percentage.

    "There are multiple GMs with a worse record than my tenure limited to recent MLB history, let alone four North American Sports Leagues. Obviously Soxtalk poster Chicago White Sox is a negative fan and doesn't know what he is talking about. Everybody fan I meet tells me I am awesome, as does my boss and our owner. I will continue to lead the Chicago White Sox as I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me."

    - Rick Hahn April 28, 2023

    MLB General Managers (1950 - 2022) with a decade plus consecutive tenure with one club:

    1. .622 George Weiss 1,243 - 756 (New York AL 1948-1960) - 7 World Series & 3 AL Pennants
    2. .593 John Schuerholz 1,594 - 1,092 (Atlanta 1991-2007) - 1 World Series & 4 NL Pennants
    3. .589 Brian Cashman 2,322 - 1,622 (New York AL 1998-2022 (current)) - 4 World Series & 2 AL Pennants
    4. .580 Bob Howsam 1,122 - 813 (Cincinnati 1967-1978) - 2 World Series & 2 NL Pennants
    5. .571 Buzzie Bavasi 1,617 - 1,217 (Brooklyn & LA Dodgers 1951-1968) - 4 World Series & 4 NL Pennants
    6. .551 Hank Peters 1,036 - 845 (Baltimore 1976-1987) - 1 World Series & 1 AL Pennant
    7. .547 Chub Feeney 1,724 - 1,425 (NY NL & SF Giants 1950-1969) - 1 World Series & 2 NL Pennants
    8. .546 Al Campanis 1,649 - 1,369 (Los Angeles Dodgers 1969-1987) - 1 World Series & 3 NL Pennants
    9. .545 Paul Owens 942 - 785 (Philadelphia NL 1973-1983) - 1 World Series & 1 NL Pennant
    10. .541 John Hart 927 - 786 (Cleveland 1991-2001) - 2 AL Pennants
    11. .536 Walt Jocketty 1,117 - 968 (Saint Louis NL 1995-2007) - 1 World Series & 1 NL Pennant
    12. .533 Brian Sabean 1,727 - 1,511 (San Francisco 1997-2016) - 3 World Series & 1 NL Pennant
    13. .533 Billy Beane 1,552 - 1,362 (Oakland 1998-2015)
    14. .530 Joe Brown 1,772 - 1,573 (Pittsburgh 1956-1976) - 2 World Series
    15. .529 Dick O'Connell 1,194 - 1,062 (Boston AL 1961-1977) - 2 AL Pennants
    16. .527 Frank Cashen 907 - 814 (New York NL 1980-1990) - 1 World Series
    17. .527 Ron Schueler 817 - 734 (Chicago AL 1991-2000) 
    18. .521 Charlie Finley 1,091 - 1,005 (Oakland 1968-1980) - 3 World Series
    19. .521 Ken Williams 1,014 - 931 (Chicago AL 2001-2012) - 1 World Series
    20. .520 Harry Dalton 1,149 - 1,062 (Milwaukee AL 1978-1991) - 1 AL Pennant
    21. .520 Fred Claire 891 - 822 (Los Angeles Dodgers 1988-1998) - 1 World Series
    22. .519 Jim Campbell 1,733 - 1,605 (Detroit 1963-1983) - 1 World Series
    23. .518 Dal Maxvill 814 - 757 (Saint Louis NL 1985-1994) - 2 NL Pennants
    24. .511 Jed Hoyer 776 - 742 (Chicago NL 2012-2021) - 1 World Series
    25. .510 Pat Gillick 1,352 - 1,297 (Toronto 1978-1994) - 2 World Series
    26. .509 Jon Daniels 1,186 - 1,143 (Texas 2006-2020) - 2 AL Pennants
    27. .508 Sandy Alderson 1,200 - 1,164 (Oakland 1983-1997) - 1 World Series, 2 AL Pennants
    28. .506 Bing Devine 898 - 877 (Saint Louis NL 1968-1978) - 1 NL Pennants
    29. .499 Dave Dombrowski 1,050 - 1,056 (Detroit 2003-2015) - 2 AL Pennants
    30. .499 Michael Rizzo 1,110 - 1,115 (Washington NL 2009-2022 (current)) - 1 World Series
    31. .496 Jim Bowden 779 - 849 (Cincinnati 1993-2003)
    32. .491 Terry Ryan 1,023 - 1,062 (Minnesota 1995-2007)
    33. .489 Woody Woodward 837 - 876 (Seattle 1989-1999)
    34. .489 Roland Hemond 999 - 1,042 (Chicago AL 1973-1985)
    35. .488 Jack McKeon 764 - 803 (San Diego 1981-1990) - 1 NL Pennant
    36. .488 Kevin Towers 1,108 - 1,161 (San Diego 1996 - 2009) - 1 NL Pennant
    37. .486 Douglas Melvin 1,024 - 1,081 (Milwaukee NL 2003-2015)
    38. .484 Tom Grieve 760 - 810 (Texas 1985-1994)
    39. .480 Calvin Griffith 2,643 - 2,866 (Washington Senators & Minnesota Twins 1950-1984) - 1 AL Pennant
    40. .470 Neal Huntington 989 - 1114 (Pittsburgh 2007-2019)
    41. .466 John Holland 1,341 - 1,534 (Chicago NL 1957-1975) 
    42. .464 Phil Seghi 943-1,091 (Cleveland 1973-1985)
    43. .464 Daniel O'Dowd 1,129-1,302 (Colorado 2000-2014) - 1 NL Pennant
    44. .461 Rick Hahn 700 - 817 (Chicago AL 2013-2022 (current))
    45. .458 Dayton Moore 1,115 - 1,318 (Kansas City June 8 2006-2021) - 1 World Series & 1 AL Pennant
    46. .457 John Quinn 1,022 - 1,213 (Philadelphia NL 1959-1972)

    Source Baseball Cube - Note: No GM Records listed prior to 1950. Consecutive tenures under 10 years, even when a GM served more than 10 years total for a franchise, are not included above.

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  2. 23 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

    NBA announced today that all Suns and Mystics games will be available on "free" over the air-TV starting with the WNBA games this summer. They'll also be streamed.

    Sports may be going back to their broadcast roots.

     

    Jerry doesn’t have a long term mindset, but the next owner should dedicate at minimum each Saturday or Sunday game each week on over the air television (WGN would be my choice).

    This would give exposure to the team that no other local teams currently provide (NFL/Bears leaving soon). M

    I don’t know how free TV rights for Spanish Broadcasts would impact their CSN deal, but if they aired 40-60 games on 44/60, you can help grow the Spanish speaking market, and folks can also watch in Spanish or mute and follow on radio.

    The Sox lost generations of fans in the 1980s with their ill fated move to SportsVision. They can start regaining their market share of fans back over time with smart forward thinking marketing and broadcast decisions.

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  3. 16 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

    But the thing is Steve was probably right in his comment. Lynn really looks heavy.

     

    15 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

    You can't even comment on a pro athlete's weight now? Come on.

    Is he any heavier than when Hahn hastily gave him his two year extension in mid July, weeks before he started having knee issues? No. He has been the same weight his entire time here.

    Not saying he shouldn't lose weight, because at minimum it would elevate pressure on his knees. That said, Stone's comments weren't constructive in anyway, he was just trying to score gig points on his side hustle. It was good he was man enough to apologize publicly, and its good that he stopped trolling Sox fans on Twitter (hard to tell if he did that on his own).

  4. 44 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    Luis Robert has had 1 day off out of 27 games this April. He got a little time to sit yesterday because of the blowout, but this is a pace to play 156 games this year. Thankfully, he has no history of serious injuries where you'd worry about keeping him healthy with extra rest.

    Elvis Andrus has started every game for the White Sox.

    Andrew Vaughn was off in the 2nd game of the season and has played every day since. 2 of those days were at DH.

    Today will be Jake Burger's 14th straight game at 3b since an off day. Thankfully again, no record of serious injury there.

    If I was hired as GM March 1st, I would have been honest with the fan base about this team's prospects. I likely would have been criticized here, but the four bench players I would have brought north were Leury Garcia (Inf-OF), Billy Hamilton (OF-PR), Seby Zavala (C) and Lenyn Sosa (Inf), [Burger for Moncada IL and Romy for Anderson IL]. Even if Leury and Billy are poor hitters at this stage, they are valuable for the defense and pitching staff since they were solid defenders wherever you put them, and are among the few players who can help prevent 4-5 out innings. The Sox entire pitching staff is dying with this defense.

    Even after jettisoning Abreu, the Sox are still stuck with half their starting lineup as DH only types (Sheets, Burger, Vaughn, Eloy). This drafting position choices / roster construction has been fatal to this alleged rebuild. Robert is the only positive dWAR player (0.9), several basically 0 (Vaughn, Zavala, Sheets, 10D, Moncada, Burger, Eloy) and the rest below average (Andrus, Sosa, Grandal) or abysmal (Alberto, Gonzalez and Colas).

  5. 18 minutes ago, T R U said:

    I am no longer angry with how this season is going, it is what it is.

    What I am angry about is that no one is being held accountable for it, and chances are no one will. Changes have to be made, not on the field, in the front office. This team has collapsed since the second half of 2021 and not a damn thing has been done about it. This is where my anger and frustration is, at a minimum Rick Hahn needs to be fired like yesterday.

    It is completely unacceptable for a professional organization to allow this level of failure with no consequences. All it has done is send the message to the fans "We don't give a f*** about you." Well, f*** you too White Sox.

    This needs to happen here for the rest of the season.

     

  6. 14 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

    I’m in a very similar boat.  I’ll be surprised if they win a game on this home stand.  It’s a strange curiosity to see just how bad they can get before anything changes.  I want to see them in the very basement with the A’s, but I fear that still won’t force JR’s hand. 

    Let me assert my firm belief, that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

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  7. 13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    11,060

    Weather looks poor until the Thursday getaway game.

    Chicago (Midway) Weather Forecast for the remainder of the Chicago White Sox Homestand:

    • Friday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 45 F. North wind 5 - 10 MPH becoming west after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 15 MPH.
    • Saturday Night: A 50% chance of showers. Mostly cloudy with a low of around 42 F. West wind around 10 MPH, with gusts as high as 20 MPH.
    • Sunday Afternoon: Showers likely, mainly after 1 PM. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 51 F. Chance of participation is 60%.
    • Tuesday Night: Mostly cloudy with a low around 40 F.
    • Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy with a low around 44 F.
    • Thursday Afternoon: Mostly sunny, a high near 63 F.
  8. Chicago White Sox losing streaks milestones on the horizon:

    • Latest Eight Game Losing Streak: April 19 - Current (Seventeen additional 8 game losing streaks)
    • Latest Nine Game Losing Streak: July 9 - 23, 2017 (Seven additional 9 game losing streaks)
    • Latest Ten Game Losing Streak: July 26 - August 4, 2013 (Five additional 10 game losing streaks)
    • Latest Eleven Game Losing Streak July 7 - July 18, 1956 (Two additional 11 game losing streaks)
    • Lone Twelve Game Losing Streak September 10 - 22, 1927
    • Lone Thirteen Game Losing Streak August 9 - 26, 1924
    • Lone Fourteen Game Losing Streak September 27 - October 1, 1967 + April 10 - 21, 1968
    • Lone Fifteen Game Losing Streak September 27 - October 1, 1967 + April 10 - 25, 1968
    • A Sixteen + game losing streak would be a new White Sox team record.
  9. 5 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

    Yeah. Like a guy who knows he won't be held accountable. So if you do what are you gonna do about it Fucking bullshitter

     

     

    5 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

    I can honestly say that all the Sox games I attended in Chicago for 47 years living up there I never ever booed the team or a player but this team really would have been the first.

    I booed David Wells knocked out in the first inning vs. the Cubs in a game the Sox would come back and win in the 9th. We were far in the upper deck, but it looked to us David Wells was puking, and we assumed it could be drinking involved, so he was booed. They said he had a bad back after the game.

    David was the only player I ever booed. We all booed La Russa relentlessly in 1985 and 1986,

  10. 8 minutes ago, fathom said:

    40 pct of this team shouldn’t be in the majors. 

    The 2017 and 2019 starting lineups were overall better than this.

    (bWAR)

    2017: 

    • C Narvaez (1.1)
    • 1B Abreu (4.9) 
    • 2B Sanchez (3.4)
    • SS Anderson (-0.4)
    • 3B Frazier (1.8)
    • LF Cabrera (0.9)
    • CF Engel (-0.7)
    • RF A. Garcia (4.4)
    • DH Davidson (-0.8)

    2019: 

    • C McCann (3.6)
    • 1B Abreu (2.5)
    • 2B Sanchez (1.4)
    • SS Anderson (4.2)
    • 3B Moncada (5.2)
    • LF Jimenez (1.5)
    • CF Engel (0.9)
    • RF Cordell (-0.6)
    • DH Alonso (-1.0)
  11. 1 hour ago, ptatc said:

    Any reports if it was bilateral or unilateral? Did they says glutes or glute? 

    Here are the details from the CST story:

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/4/27/23701435/white-sox-yoan-moncada-dealing-with-disc-issue
     

    The pain caused by the disc radiated into Moncada’s glutes. It’s possible Moncada would need surgery after the season, but the odds are in his favor against that.

    “My understanding medically is that about 80% of them, they’re able to calm down naturally and then you go on with your life,” Hahn said. “And then about maybe two out of every 10, you have to have some sort of intervention in the offseason. It’s trending the right way right now.

    “Hopefully he continues to progress over these seven or eight days and have an assignment soon after.

  12. 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    That would be the kind of injury that would explain an awful lot of his 2022 performance.

    He initially lingered on the roster until being placed on the IL, so my first inclination is he may have had pain, but this wasn’t formally diagnosed until the past week or two.

    Would like to know if anyone asked a follow up question as to when when Yoan first exhibited symptoms and when this issue first diagnosed.

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  13. 1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    Not good! BetRivers favors Tampa Bay at -150 on the Win line. The Sox are +128 on the Win line. Those odds are pretty much the same at almost any betting site. 

    Wow that juice is obscene.

    Old enough to have bet a nickel line in Vegas (-120 + 115) and fine through a bookie here (-120 +110).

    Westgate Sportsbook typically has the best juice for gamblers in Vegas, Stardust s and Boyd were on point too back in the day. Don’t bet MGM or Ceasars.

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