South Side Hit Men
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I hope @The Beast and his group left before the seventh to not have to witness this on his birthday.
I'm done with the "Junior" era.
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2 minutes ago, bryank1202 said:
RICK HAHN is MLBs 3rd longest tenured GM behind Brian Cashman and Mike Rizzo.
He will outlast both, just you wait and see, unless Jerry dies over the next few years.
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9-3, from no hitter to blow out between 2 outs.
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Just now, Dick Allen said:
It was funny Hahn mentioned his Sporting News Exrc of the Year the other day considering he was the guy who fired Renteria the year he won Manager of the Year.
The one he extended 60 games before his award.
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6-3, and they find another way.
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Jimmy wants a strikeout.
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Just now, Capn12 said:
Why in God's name did 28k people show up to this debacle? Lets keep rewarding the cesspool of an organization by going to the games.
Free Sox Hockey Jersey the likely culprit.
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Ballgame.
Jerry Reinsdorf Karma cannot be defeated.
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Nice play by Andrus there.
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Nine more outs to go!
Game thread at four pages. Sounds about right.
Meh, though still up two.
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Ironically, Lance Lynn is potentially ruining the Nisei Lounge's $1 Old Style Special tomorrow if the Sox lose 10 in a row.
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14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
In 229 games... if he could actually stay healthy, which would average out to 11.6 / 2 full years or 5.8 per season.
Alas. Not going to ever happen with the White Sox at least.
Trout missed 42 games last year with a rare back condition, costovertebral dysfunction, and still beats that prorated pie in the sky number during his age 30 season.
How much of Robert's WAR is inflated with cutting off teammate routine RF/LF flyballs?
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15 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:
Sadly I'm done with Robert. He's as soft an athlete as I recall. Maybe he's just injury prone but whatever.
3 minutes ago, cuban_sammiches said:If the guy is hurt that's a bad break but Luis Robert Jr appears to be so mentally weak. What a disappointment.
He may be the next Mike Trout.
- 6.2 bWAR Mike Trout 2022
- 8.2 bWAR Luis Robert 2020-2023
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3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
If he's hurt he should sit. If he just dogged it some Accountability is in order.0 o
Ricky would have benched him, as he did the other "stars" when they needed to be reminded of their lack of effort or concentration.
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12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Sure...but none of those guys other than Vaughn were considered really legit prospects when they arrived in Chicago.
Totally different expectations.
In the end, the best teams take the elite up the middle CF SS 2B C athletes and push them to the corners and DH rather than the other way around.
What are you talking about? Burger was a collegiate first round draft pick six years ago, is 27 and played 85 MLB games. Sheets was a second round pick. These aren't mid late round selections or high school guys who didn't pan out. They are the definition of bust, unless one's "expectations" are for Top 2 round players to not not to contribute at the ML level.
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1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:
Do other teams do anything like this? I’ve been complaining about the White Sox sequence with prospects for nearly 20 years.
-Rush to the big leagues, gotta get that bat in the lineup now.
-Struggles when they arrive
-Rapidly loses playing time to some crappy veteran, we’re trying to win we gotta get that veteran bat in the lineup right now.
-Traded away, gotta get that veteran presence to help our lineup.Ricky was the one manager open to regularly playing rookies since possibly Gene Lamont, though that may be more of a function of circumstance and what Ricky was tasked with. Tony and Ozzie hated rookies unless they hit the ground running immediately.
Didn’t really follow the Sox closely under Ventura, Bevington or Manual, so it’s possible they were more amenable to regularly playing rookies even if they were struggling.
That said, it’s the General Manager’s responsibility, at least widely across baseball over the past decade, to work with the manager and set the parameters as to playing time throughout the roster.
I don’t mind seeing Colas taking a few days off to mentally regroup and work on his hitting and mental approach to both sides of the ball. He needs to start playing again regularly next week, either here or Charlotte.
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3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Vaughn and Sheets are doing just fine this year...they are what they are, although one would like to believe Andrew would make at least an All Star Game or two after Tim Anderson is off the roster.
From where Burger was drafted and after those two Achilles' injuries, it was almost a miracle even to just make it up to the majors.
No, look at each player where they are at and what they have accomplished with the White Sox. Eloy is wad and shoulders above these three.
Burger has a possible chance to make up some ground depending if he can maintain sustainable hitting, Eloy’s health and head, and the fact that Burger can play provide some value playing 3B.
(bWAR) Player (Age) / MLB Games Played / OPS
- (5.0) Eloy Jimenez (26) 335 .815
- (1.1) Jake Burger (27) 85 .832
- (0.3) Andrew Vaughn (25) 287 .731
- (0.1) Gavin Sheets (27) 194 .749
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Happy Lee Elia Day for those who celebrate. Lee Elia Day turned 40 today. Perhaps we will see a White Sox version, as early as tonight.
View discretion is advised (politically incorrect profanity pointed toward Cubs fans).
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Eloy
He seems like a nice person, and may be smart outside of baseball, but he has the lowest baseline baseball IQ I can recall in any player over a half century.
He is regularly unavailable, and when he is he cannot play defense and is a threat to himself and others when he has a glove. He was even injured postgame celebrating Lucas Giolito’s No Hitter.
Sure he is better than the other DH busts drafted on the current roster, though Burger is gaining on him. If Eloy was coordinated and able to remain healthy playing on the field, he’d make a better 1B than Vaughn based on his size.
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1 hour ago, Texsox said:
For most everyone here, this is the longest losing streak in their lifetime. I was 7 years young and blissfully unaware during the 1968 steak.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Most of us were alive in 2013 when Robin Ventura and newly promoted Rick Hahn lead the White Sox to a ten game losing streak and a 63-99 record. The Sox scored 18 total runs, or 1.8 per game for the mathematically challenged.
wo = Walk off loss.
- July 26 vs. Kansas City (86-76) 5-1
- July 27 vs. Kansas City 1-0
- July 28 vs. Kansas City 4-2 (12)
- July 29 at Cleveland (92-70) 3-2 wo
- July 30 at Cleveland (92-70) 7-4
- July 31 at Cleveland 6-5 (10) wo
- August 1 at Cleveland 6-1
- August 2 at Detroit (93-69) 2-1
- August 3 at Detroit 3-0
- August 4 at Detroit 3-2 (12) wo
If the Sox win tonight, there are still a few other streaks they are embarked on that are still in play. I’ll elaborate further as events unfold.
So don’t lock this thread and perhaps remove the “promotions” bit as may have been created as a thread to post joke ideas for promotions, but this can be used (or also be used) to discuss the various streaks the Sox are currently undergoing in one singular thread.
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2 minutes ago, JoeC said:
...and a new catchphrase was born
MLB Front Offices have been using "Hahned it" since 2015.
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1 hour ago, Texsox said:
Thank you @South Side Hit Men
So actually 14 would be the same season record since the previous spanned two seasons.
Somewhere Tony and Leury are doing shots and
Yes, 13 is the most consecutive games the White Sox lost within a single season (1924) through 2022.
The White Sox lost five straight games to end the 1967 season, and ten more to start the 1968 season.
If anyone has a good website source for most consecutive series losses, or for accurate team GM/Top Baseball Executive records before 1950, I would appreciate any link(s). I’ve only found one 8 consecutive series loss streak in the 2000s. My previous tracker included both series losses and splits.
Also, I would like to update my Hahn All Time GM 10 plus year standings for pre 1950 seasons. Hahn would be buried far further down the list expanding seasons since 1950, but I cannot find consolidate accurate information within a single source.
It’s possible a few Saint Louis Browns GMs, and possibly other team GMs were even worse than Hahn for over a decade, but I don’t want to update the list without certainty for all 16 teams pre-1950. The role evolved over the years, so some teams had a formally named GM, whereas others had a team Owner, President, Secretary and/or Field Manager serve in this role.
White Sox Streak Source Source:
https://champsorchumps.us/team/mlb/chicago-white-sox/longest-losing-streaks
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The streak slate from the tanking era has been wiped clean (Nine the longest July 9-23, 2017).
Latest Nine Game Losing Streak: April 19 - Current (Eight additional 9 game losing streaks)
Chicago White Sox losing streaks milestones on the horizon:
- Latest Ten Game Losing Streak: July 26 - August 4, 2013 (Five additional 10 game losing streaks)
- Latest Eleven Game Losing Streak July 7 - July 18, 1956 (Two additional 11 game losing streaks)
- Lone Twelve Game Losing Streak September 10 - 22, 1927
- Lone Thirteen Game Losing Streak August 9 - 26, 1924
- Lone Fourteen Game Losing Streak September 27 - October 1, 1967 + April 10 - 21, 1968
- Lone Fifteen Game Losing Streak September 27 - October 1, 1967 + April 10 - 25, 1968
- A Sixteen + game losing streak would be a new White Sox team record.
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I really was into the game tonight, the first I listened through the entire broadcast (watched the entire game on Fox last Saturday). They played hard, but that stupid play letting the Rays score ended up being a factor in the final. Pissed they burned Lopez yesterday down 13-2 when Foster and Romy were available for 8 and 9.
Even though long term it's best they lose 110 games this season to force the necessary house clearing of everything, I was cheering for them strong through the last at bat.
Unlike fucking Rick Hahn, I do admit my game threads have been mired in mediocrity. After starting 9-4, I have now lost five straight games between 2021 - 2023. Unlike Rick Hahn, I am resigning from Game Thread duties until at minimum Rick Hahn is gone (hope I can remember this pledge in 2024 and beyond).
Sox fans deserve better than this. I hope the Sox can bring isolated moments of joy for the people still going to games and watching regularly.
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GT 4/29: This ends tonight! White Sox vs. Rays - 6:10 CT
in 2023 Season in Review
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Cell you piece of s%*#.