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    26-man roster announced

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

    Let’s pick him the hell up please.  Sure, he may amount to nothing but what is the risk?  Beggars shouldn’t be choosy.

    Couldn’t they just cut Jesse Scholtens (torn UCL) from the 40-man roster and claim Smith-Njigba?

    Players on the MLB 60 Day IL don't count against the 40 man roster.

    26-man roster announced

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    12 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

    Maybe not.  @WestEddy made a good point that Grossman’s defense is Sheets-like in RF, but I guess that hasn’t stopped them from starting Sheets in RF.  However, they will still need Pillar to back up CF.  Ideally, Grossman tears it up at AAA and they can somehow fit both Pillar and Grossman on the roster.  It’s too bad no one else can back up 1B because Sheets is the guy who should be in AAA.  Grossman and Pillar are old and may be done but they have both hit lefties fairly well in their careers and it could make some sense if they are in LF and RF respectively against left-handed starters, with Robert in CF, Eloy at DH, and Benintendi on the bench.

    They really shouldn't go down a platoon route beyond protecting Fletcher's confidence, since it doesn't appear he has any chance vs. LHP, and may not have much vs. RHP over extended MLB at bats.

    There is really no room for Grossman, Pillar and Sheets. Of the three, I rather have Pillar, primarily because he can cover CF. Grossman really only makes sense if they have little confidence in Fletcher to allow him to play everyday in AAA. Still rather see Colas play regularly here, not sure if he will ever be given another chance by Getz and Grifol.

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    Chris Getz Roster Transaction Tracker

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    Just now, WhiteSox2023 said:

    However, I am also not a fan of what Getz apparently values in position players so far.  It reminds me too much of Kenny and his love for “grinders” over talent.  For this team to ever be in competition again, it needs good players with more than just leadership and defensive skills.

    See this as more of "I need to cut $55M from payroll this year and field 26 players" type of roster construction, but they will need to acquire/develop talent if they are to be competitive in the future.

    The Sox will need to DFA or 60 Day IL 1 or 2 more players in April. One for certain if they will promote Nastrini to the rotation and 40 man as expected.

    The second if they plan to bring Grossman up. At this point Fletcher or Pillar can go to Charlotte to accommodate Grossman. Sheets is redundant as well, but he was giving out hot dogs yesterday, so think he is staying up as he has been since 2022.

    Sox will be good if Getz and or Grifol don't cling to these veterans they brought in, but merely have them here as placeholders for better options.

    Chris Getz Roster Transaction Tracker

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    3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

    Is it really transformed if its just as shitty as before, only with different names and faces?

    I see this as more of a long term project given the lack of depth of talent in the entire organization.

    Beyond continued development and acquisition of prospects over the next few years, the keys will be whether Getz will be effective in reshaping the organization including player development, and whether Jerry will spend any money or just go into bottom of the league payroll mode like he did from 1986 until the end of the old park. He didn't lift payroll much even with record attendance the first two years of the park, but did raise it in time for 1993, so several years after he started demanding a new stadium.

    Chris Getz Roster Transaction Tracker

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    Posted · Edited by South Side Hit Men

    This post covers construction of the current 26 man active roster and 40 man organizational roster as of March 28, 2024.

    40 Man Roster + 4 MLB 60 Day IL

    Acquisition Chart:

    22 acquired by Chris Getz; 22 Rick Hahn

    • 11 Free Agents (11 MLB) (9 CG; 2 RH)
    • 6 International Free Agents (1 MLB; 5 MiLB) (0 CG; 6 RH)
    • 17 Trade Recipients (11 MLB; 6 MiLB) (11 CG; 6 RH)
    • 8 Draft Selections (7 MLB; 1 MiLB) (1 CG; 7 RH)
    • 2 Waiver Claim (1 MLB; 1 MiLB) (1 CG; 1 RH)

    MLB Level: 26 Active Roster + 1 Injured List.  [11 FAs; 1 IFA; 11 TR; 7 DS; 1 WC]

    4 Additional Players on 60 Day Injured List

    (13) Pitchers

    • RH Tanner Banks (32) Drafted 18th Round 2014 
    • CG John Brebbia (33) Free Agent signed 1/26/24
    • RH Garrett Crochet (24) Drafted 1st Round 2020
    • CG Erick Fedde (31) Free Agent signed 12/13/23
    • CG Chris Flexen (29) Free Agent signed 12/30/23
    • RH Deivi Garcia (24) Waiver Claim 8/10/23
    • CG Tim Hill (34) Free Agent signed 12/28/23
    • RH Michael Kopech (27) Traded for Chris Sale 12/6/16
    • RH Jordan Leasure (25) Traded for Lance Lynn 7/28/23
    • CG Dominic Leone (32) Free Agent signed Minor League Contract 2/13/24,  White Sox selected his contract on 3/28/24.
    • CG Bryan Shaw (36) Free Agent signed Minor League Contract 2/18/24, White Sox selected his contract on 3/28/24.
    • CG Michael Soroka (26) Traded for Aaron Bummer 11/16/23
    • CG Steven Wilson (29) Traded for Dylan Cease 2/27/24

    (13) Position Players

    • RH Korey Lee (25) Traded for Kendall Graveman 7/28/23
    • CG Martin Maldonado (37) Free Agent signed 1/5/24
    • CG Paul DeJong (30) Free Agent signed 11/28/23
    • CG Nicky Lopez (29) Traded for Aaron Bummer 11/16/23
    • RH Yoan Moncada (28) Traded for Chris Sale 12/6/16
    • RH Gavin Sheets (27) Drafted 2nd Round 2017 
    • CG Braden Shewmake (26) Traded for Aaron Bummer 11/16/23
    • RH Andrew Vaughn (25) Drafted 1st Round 2019
    • RH Andrew Benintendi (29) Free Agent signed 1/3/23
    • CG Dominic Fletcher (26) Traded for Cristian Mena 2/3/24
    • RH Eloy Jimenez (27) Traded for Carlos Quintana 7/13/17
    • CG Kevin Pillar (35) Free Agent signed 3/24/24
    • RH Luis Robert Junior (26) International Free Agent signed 5/27/17

    (4 + 1) MLB Injured List

    • CG Shane Drohan (25) Rule 5 Draft 2023 60 Day IL
    • RH Matt Foster (29) Drafted 20th Round 2016 60 Day IL
    • RH Jimmy Lambert (29) Drafted 5th Round 2016 60 Day IL
    • RH Jesse Scholtens (29) Minor League Free Agent signed 12/20/22 60 Day IL
    • CG Max Stassi (33) Traded with cash for minor league player to be named later 12/9/23 10 Day IL

     

    MiLB Level: 13 Players [5 IFA; 6 TR; 1 DS; 1 WC]

    (10) Minor Leagues - AAA Charlotte

    • CG Prelander Berroa (23) Traded for Gregory Santos 2/3/24
    • CG Bailey Horn (26) Traded for Matthew Thompson 2/27/24
    • CG Jairo Iriarte (26) Traded for Dylan Cease 2/27/24
    • RH Davis Martin (27) Drafted 14th Round 2018 MiLB 60 Day IL
    • CG Jared Schuster (25) Traded for Aaron Bummer 11/16/23
    • CG Alex Speas (26) Waiver Claim 10/3/23
    • RH Jose Rodriguez (22) International Free Agent signed 2/13/18
    • RH Lenyn Sosa (24) International Free Agent signed 7/2/16
    • RH Oscar Colas (25) International Free Agent signed 1/25/22
    • CG Zach DeLoach (25) Traded for Gregory Santos 2/3/24

    (3) Minor Leagues - AA Birmingham

    • RH Josimar Cousin (26) International Free Agent signed 5/25/23
    • RH Jake Eder (25) Traded for Jake Burger 8/1/23
    • RH Bryan Ramos (22) International Free Agent signed 7/2/18
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