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Yeah and he's hitting just over .200. Our organization is a joke.

Laughing so loud at our box score. Season averages: Kotsay .193, Nix .143, Beckham .202, AJ .224, Carlos Quentin a robust .202, Jones .216, Pierre .249, Lexi .251. How can Quentin be hitting .202 and Beckham .202. Embarrassing hitters. Jake 3 whole strikeouts of the Indians in 7 innings. What a joke.

My only disagreement is you guys act like money matters to some teams. Yankees ... why not add Peavy? It's pennies to them. And Rios? Who needs a rejuvenated centerfielder. That's a lot of money for the firesale. I'm sure Jerry is not in love with Rios yet. With this team a noncontender, he'd rather see some of that loot Rios makes than Rios every day I would think.

I wish KW could reverse all but one of his moves and this would be our lineup. Is there any reason to believe we'd have any worse of a team? Then he could try it again via the trade route. I realize Oz is as much to blame since he wanted Omar, Pierre, etc. 1B-Paulie. 2B-Getz/Nix. SS-Lexi. 3B-Beckham (maybe he'd never have slumped had he kept his old stomping grounds; I can wish). LF-Pods/Quentin. CF-Rios (we'll keep that acquisition). RF-Quentin/Dye. Give some days off to the combo of Dye/Pods/CQ DH-Thome/Dye C-AJ Rotation: Mark, Floyd, Danks, Clayton Richard, Freddy. Bullpen: Same middle relief stiffs as last year hoping for bouncebacks, plus Thornton, Bob. WIth the combination of veterans and youngsters adding some zest, isn't this a MUCH BETTER mix??? Thanks, Kenny/Oz for the bad tinkering. --if you think I'm a moron/asshole, just think. I almost made this a new thread. think how mad you'd be reading that! We could have had the plodders one more year, getting closer to the time Danks and Viciedo and Flowers are ready?? Think bout that.

It was a lousy game. Hawks shoulda flew back home after the singing of God Bless America. Hawks were overmatched tonight. I don't like the way Philly is bullying the Hawks. Hopefully home ice will cure all. Philly is the agressor to this point. They pass the puck and pepper the net. Until that late rally, we saw none of that from Chicago and still that late rally didn't matter as Philly took advantage of a muff and raced in for the crowd pleasing empty net goal to shove our momentum out the window.

I don't see why a contender like Boston/NY or anybody with money, Philly, wouldn't want Peavy or Rios. If the goal is to shed money they'll prolly try to dump Rios as well. They got money to burn and they'd be getting Peavy for the same reason we got him. why would one lousy start to a season change their minds. Is he that s***ty?

The problem is KW can't really make any productive trades until after the break when contenders are buying. Only guy he can trade now is AJ cause of his no trade deadline deal and frankly, who wants AJ? Is there a fit for him? He can't throw anymore and his hitting is nothing to write home about. I mean isn't his arm toast?? Not flaming, but who would want AJ? I guess if Kendall is still playing, AJ can find a home, but who would be dying to get AJ?

Why not? They got money to burn. In theory he could get hot for a month or 2. Do you all agree with my post? Isn't that the Sox only option?

I just wish KW would blow it up now. Patience is not needed any more. Trade AJ now and start the parade of salary dumping. It matters not that Lucy/Castro are no good and Flowers apparently isn't ready going by what you guys say. Trade all the other salary guys after the all star break when contenders feel the heat to make moves. We should be trying to become the youngest team in baseball by the end of the season. Try to trade Peavy as well to a contender. Boston/NY probably would take him. Do all you can to dump Teahen and Pierre as well. Pray some contender wants them. Pierre could pinch run or something for somebody. Ask Oz if he wants to coach the young guy White Sox who figure to suck for some time to come. If he doesn't, then let him go to the NL for next season and hire Piniella after the Cub fire him or he quits. Or beg Whitey Herzog to come back and try it again. Our next manger figures to be some old, boring guy after the Ozfest.

Toews looks like a scared little kid. Hopefully home ice will cure what ails us, but this series is a total toss up. Philly knows damn well it belongs in the finals. They pretty much ruled this game tonight. I don't know if we will win this series. You guys have to admit if this was a boxing match, right now the Flyers are ahead on points. Can we keep home ice and kick their ass in Game Five?

Don't want to sabotage the thread, but I'm worried about the Hawks entering Game Five. Philly will have all the mo-jo. As far as Danks, I fear Fathom may be right that he's a No. 3 guy. Peavy?? WTF.

Well we are f***ed then. Because our great starting rotation apparently is not great. Danks/Floyd may just be "useful" guys. Mark apparently is on the severe decline and Jake?? WTF is Jake. Bobby ain't getting any younger. Rest of the bullpen besides Cy Young are rag arms. Man we got troubles. And that's just pitching.

Any way you slice it, that is a pretty damn good line.

It doesn't even occur to you to blame ... uh, Santos?

Assuming the firesale is coming very soon ... Do you think the Sox are going to rebuild a team capable of beating teams in its own division? When we won it in 05, there was the belief we would simply have a better team (on paper) than any team in our division from some time to come. We would make the playoffs regularly over these division pissants then take our chances in the postseason. Now we do not match up with Cleveland, KC plays OK against us and Minnie is so much better than us it's not even worth discussing. We used to beat Detroit like a drum no longer. How important is it to have a team on paper that is built to compete with teams in the division? We regularly get our asses handed to us by division foes.

You think we will bounce back at home? Or do the refs want the older Flyers to beat us?

And guess what? The opponent is Cleveland and the pitcher is the supposedly awesome Danks. If Danks can't go six vs. this piss poor team, then I want him to get an L. But I'm serious. I'm all for you guys getting your wish. Fire him.

I said I want you guys to get your wish. You'll be happy the rest of the year because the new manager will be an interim so he'll be blame free. And then you'll have the whole offseason to look forward to the new manager and you'll give him to the all star break the following season before you turn on him. By all means fire Ozzie. I'm all for it.

Yes, Ozzie, please please quit! It will cure what ails this team for a week. Hell the Sox will likely win five, six in a row like all teams do when they fire a manager. Then they will return to the piece of s*** team they have, but please quit. We need some new blood to b**** about.

I really do hope they fire Oz so you guys will be happy. It's grown so old to hear the same ol b****ing about a horses*** team. Please fire Ozzie so you guys can complain about the next guy. I'm in a s*** mood but not because of Danks imploding in the sixth inning. My god if he can't go six, he deserves to stay in and get f***ing rocked. Ridiculous. But you guys blame the manager instead of Danks. Amazing. I'm mad because the Hawks are getting their asses bludgeoned in all phases of the game. Hopefully home ice will fix what ails the Hawks. PLEASE FIRE OZZIE!

We're not better than the Cleveland Indians. My god. Blow it up if we lose this game. For once and all blow it up. If we win nevermind. Danks should be pulled is just stupid talk. At least try to understand baseball a bit, please. It's the sixth inning for god sakes.

One thing is for sure. If it gets to 4-1 it's ova. Wake up, Hawks!

We're getting pushed around. Hawks need to f***ing fight back. I'm sick of the Flyers playing badass whenever the puck gets frozen. Not jumping ship, we'll still win on home ice, but this is ridiculous. We are getting pushed aruond and playing s***ty hockey.

We mean as the one guy who gets appointed to the game. We know no Sox will get voted in. I forgot about Paulie. For sentimental sake, maybe he'll get in if they have enough outfielders to pick from. But Rios seems to be our guy this year. I guess there's still a lot of baseball to be played before the break.

He won't be there, unless he beats out Rios. We will only get one all star. I haven't followed how all the closers are doing in the AL, but if it's like every other year where there are 4-5 good ones Thornton again has no chance.