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I read thru the thread and saw the prediction by the poster came true and made a comment. It didn't put on blast any party or candidate thus I thought it would be OK to go there.

You were right. I won't get political, but I wonder who would be the next president had they done it the normal way, by nominating a candidate and having a convention. Or I wonder if KH would have won had she named the Penn. governor Shapiro her running mate instead of the other guy.

Weird sarcasm coming from a guy who I thought liked me. I do not like Applebee's, never been to the one in Kansas. I do like the salad bar at that one restaurant I forget the name. Italian garden or whatever the name is. And I love Ozzeroo of course. McCarthy is a veteran coach, proven, Aikman upset the Cowboys fired him. Might figure ways to beat Green Bay, etc.

Slam dunk. Bears next coach has to be McCarthy. He's only 61. He could be the coach of our next good team. If he's Bears coach til 71 you can't convince me he won't win at least one SB.

The month of January creeps on. Once you hit February it's all over for roster building. Assuming all our studs are "not ready" the lineup and pitching staffs are both worse to way worse than last year's team that came out of spring training. That must be a helpless feeling as a GM knowing you don't have the weapons so to speak. Seriously our only hope at 50 or more wins instead of 41 would be our central division opponents not being able to get up for the Sox. It will be difficult to get up for the Sox games if you are an opponent. Only way you could get up is if as a hitter you decided to feast on Chicago to build up the RBIs and batting average. And if a pitcher to get those strikeout totals up and ERA down by virtue of domination of the Sox. We're that bad.

If the zips projections are correct, we will be throwing a bunch of bodies on that pitching mound all season. Just arms, little ability to get guys out. If the pitching is way worse than last year and we win 50 games then the new manager is manager of the year.

Disagree. You don't win games with an up the middle of DeBong and Nicky as well as the light stick we had at catcher. Also easily the worst pitching staff top to bottom in Sox history. And finally nobody except Beni lifting and pulling any home runs to speak of. That team deserved what it got, 41 wins. It lost blowout games, it lost 'close' games cause of the bullpen and it lost games cause of its lousy starting pitchers not named Crochet. also Fedde did OK even though he stunk as a Cardinal. Luis Robert also had an uneventful 393 at bats.

You are an optimistic fan. I'd venture to say most Sox fans either are upset or totally have moved on and do not care and would never ever consider going to a game unless it was some special occasion: free tickets in prime location, free parking. I don't live in Chicago but I'd assume there's general who cares malaise about our Sox. Am I correct?

I don't know about that. I don't think anybody can say the roster is any better right now than last season. Who is the Sox starting shortstop and second baseman in the year after DeBong and Nicky? Those two truly were dreadful so maybe this year's crew will be better. If Vaughn and Robert have horrible seasons there's no way they'll win more than 45 games. Cause somebody list a two-deep roster with likely starters and subs? I need to start learning some names even tho I won't be buying mlb.com again.

That's where some of you differ from some of us. You say Crochet is worthless to the Sox. If you have a great player some of us think it's fun to watch him wear our jersey and win a few games. If you keep your Crochets, Cease's and some of the other guys let go in "rebuilding" you might actually be able to win the old fashioned way. But let's just keep dumping all our good players in the name of a tank/rebuild job. Ridiculous. And this last one didn't work and some of you still like tanking/rebuilding rather than keeping your good players.

As a fan I don't mind Getz. He seemed to be a good speaker/leader during the few minutes I watched before having to turn off the podcast cause of the annoying announcer on the left. I wish Getz well and I think he does want to win after hearing his comment on Sox fans wanting to win now. Getz-ie (I'm sure he was called that as a player cause it seems everybody is an 'ie' at the end of their name in baseball.

I tried but had to turn off the podcast a few minutes in. That co host on the left ... loves to hear himself talk. His questions are way too long and he's acting like he knows everything. I couldn't take his long speeches culminating in a question. Geez, just get a huge list of questions and let the GM talk and explain this mess of a 41-win team.

You could make a helluva exciting highlight film with several of Vaughn's at bats. "Sometimes" he whacks beautiful doubles in the gap. Sometimes he actually puts together a few good games in a row. ... But to me most of the time he looks so pained at the plate. Like he's nervous or something. This has to be it for him. Is he a fine hitter or not? If he has another mediocre season he's probably shown the door.

I'm glad your remain a negative voice of reason. There's no reason for us long time fans to buy into this b.s. JR has been selling for years. I can understand people saying, "If you are so negative why follow the team?" Fair question. We could go away and shut up but when you are a lifelong fan it's tough to start rooting for some other team. It is mildly encouraging the farm system got ranked fourth. That's all the Sox have to sell now. Marketing strategy would be: Fully invest now; we're coming!" And then in smaller print note the farm system getting ranked fourth.

How the mighty have fallen. We used to be a representative team in the division year after year with real players. Now the Sox arguably are the dregs of all of baseball. Sad.

It'd be nice if they 'rushed' all those guys into big league uniforms. Why not? We're not winning anything regardless. Remember Bobby Witt? He wasn't 'ready' and endured a bad year then came out gangbusters. If Witt had hit in the Yankee series and Salvy KC prolly woulda won and moved on. Meanwhile our Sox ...

Sox aren't winning anything with this low-paid roster. From what I've seen the roster is worse this coming season than 2024. No $$ means no fun.

This is kind of a repeat of last offseason: acquire some guys who are lucky to be in baseball with a smidgen of a chance of getting good. We're still on the same track to 40-50 wins at this date. We'll see what happens. January is the month. February is spring training before u know it.

36th round draft pick who hit 8 homers in almost 500 at bats last season. 3B position will have no power this season. Sounds like our new Nicky. Good defense though which helps the push to 50 wins. Sox allegedly have beefed up the bullpen with a lot of bodies to choose from. Great defense to go with this staff should assure 49-51 wins despite the total lack of hitting on the team.

This is familiar. Offseason stockpiling of the latest crop of relievers. Law of averages gonna give the Sox a good bullpen for once? A good bullpen makes the over 49 bet look better. My tip: Pay attention gamblers. You mite wanna bet the house on over 49.

So Vargas got 14 hits in 135 at bats for the Sox last season. He did draw 17 walks. But his 14 for 135 has to be one of the worst 135 at bat stretches of any player in Sox history. Why would anybody think this guy is an everyday player? Then Fletcher... 46 hits in 223 at bats. Oh boy that's awful. And those two guys could be 2/9s of our order on a given day? Let's say Beni reverts back to the 2023 Beni and Robert and Vaughn hit the same as they did last year. And Fletcher and that other guy split duty in right field. I'm not trying to be an alarmist but even with some promising young arms you have to score some runs to win ballgames. I see no signs of 2025 White Sox being as good as the 2024 team. Who the hell is our shortstop? At least last. year we knew it was DeBong who was not a complete embarrasment. I see no punch in this lineup and very few HRs if Beni reverts back to 2023 and Vaughn remains Vaughn. Should be interesting to see if Sox can win a zillion 2-1 games somehow. No bats.

What a dummy. You always got the feeling Hawk/Stoney while making regular contact with players didn't try to bond with the boys in the locker room. Even though he's young, Schiff is not prime 'become one of us' material with the players. Leave 'em alone; ask 'em something while flying by once in a while. Do an interview when u are supposed to. Don't force things

All those calls are embarrassing. When you have a 42-win team, cmon, as much as you want to get excited, the team has prevented that. Any attempt at being 'overly' positive is ridiculous. You have to treat each game as its own but the big picture of team suckiness can never be ignored. South Side Stand Up is so bad. The haters and losers thing is counterproductive. And the final two are not worth commenting on they are so bad.

Holy cow. The couple of games I watched they move the ball and shoot it pretty well.