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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 05:46 PM) I like this. What I enjoyed the most about his speech is it was honest. He believes what he says. A politician honest? Only Honest Abe was honest. Just a little joke but it's weird to see the word "honest" in connection with politicians.

QUOTE (MEANS @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 12:35 PM) so Greg, if everyone believed in God what would really change about our society? You come off sounding like people are below you if they don't believe in your God. I don't mean to say they are below me. I think if people believed in God they would not be as selfish as they are and they would make better decisions for the betterment of all. I definitely think it'd be a kinder, gentler America. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:36 PM) You also question why I don't believe. I believe in science and fact, none of which supports religion. There still could be somebody in charge of it all no matter what theory you have on creation IMO.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Greg, as you can see from your posts throughout this thread, your thinking was in line with the majority of this board. Most of us would be disappointed but not entirely surprised. If someone were to send this thread to AJ he would see that he has a ton of fans that would be very upset if it turned out he was using. Most us have been very supportive, you included. There's no reason to kill a thread just because a rumor turned out to be false. The thread title was changed to reflect the fact that the rumor turned out to be false. The mods here aren't going to lock the thread and pretend nothing ever happened. The rumor came out, we all said that would suck if true, and the rumor was proven false. But there were hundreds of posts from the time the rumor started until when the rumor was killed. Relax. I'm sure AJ is okay with some fans having a discussion about him. Besides, this thread will start dropping down on the page today. By game time, it won't even be one of the top ten discussions...unless you keep insisting the thread be killed. You are probably right. Normally I think it's OK to discuss rumors but if the rumor is proven blatantly false, it's only fair to strike it from the record so to speak. I mean what if the rumor had been AJ physically attacked somebody. It's why a lot of newspapers won't print the names of alleged lawbreakers until they are charged. Oh well, I'm in the minority here, so I'll move on.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 08:31 AM) Must you always whine? I'm not whining. I'm standing up for AJP. All it was was a bad rumor. So dump the thread.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 10:37 PM) Absolutely not. Moving it to another unrelated forum and burying it like WSI did is not what we are gonna do. This has to do with a White Sox player It unfairly discusses a NON ISSUE regarding a true White Sox, AJP. There is NO STORY thus the thread should be killed out of respect for AJP. It cheapens the site IMO as there's no story here. I guess if somebody starts a rumor on Youk or Paulie next we can all discuss it and keep the thread around forever. Bad form IMO. At least the name of the thread should be changed to a discussion of the idiot who planted the rumor. The only story is about a reckless anonymous poster, not AJP. It's the same reason WGN doesn't put the camera on the idiots that run on the field. They don't deserve the attention.

I just watched msnbc's postspeech coverage; wow they love Obama on that network. I gotta check out Wolf Blitzer and Andy Cooper if it comes on. Well I'm going to bed, didn't catch Wolf Blitzer, but those msnbc panelists should be paid by Obama. That one white haired guy who they spoof on SNL was giddy saying how great Obama's speech was. No flame, but all the print media seem to think the speech was an epic fail.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:59 AM) You are inconsistent in your statements. You say you don't care what others believe, but the very next thing you post laments that too few people believe in God (i.e., you care what others think). It's not true, btw. A distressing recent Gallup poll noted that 45% of Americans have a basically creationist belief system, while another 35% believe in a God-directed evolutionary scheme (talk about a contradiction), and only 15% of Americans accept a secular view of organic evolution. Basically, the Goddies far outnumber the nonbelievers in America, no matter how loudly the poor persecuted believers insist otherwise. I meant to say I don't care what he believes because I have no right to determine what he believes. As far as an entire society, sure I wish they all believed in God. But I didn't want to act as if I wanted him to follow my beliefs. He has the right to believe what he wants. So do 80 percent believe in God? I don't understand your figures.

Well, Biden and Obama gave their speeches tonight, following speeches of Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton earlier in the week. Please critique them for me. My opinion: Clinton gave the best speech of the convention, followed by Biden, Barack and Michelle. I haven't heard yet what Wolf Blitzer thought of the speech. I watched the FOX crew and I was surprised some columnist named Krupheimer or something just blistered Obama. He said it was a horrible speech. Personally I thought Obama gave a pretty good speech. He admitted the job has brought him to his knees at times which I thought was great that he turned to God in time of need. I thought it made him seem very human in admitting he doesn't have all the answers at all times. I dunno. I think Barack comes across as a good man and I am fairly convinced he'll do all he can to get things moving in the right direction. But as far as the speech. I'd give it a B-. Biden's speech was very good IMO. He made a convincing argument that Barack is a good leader and is a better choice than that pretty rich boy the Republicans are throwing out there. I'd give Biden's speech a solid B. Clinton gets an A and Michelle a C. Conclusion: Obama beats Romney in a rout in the debates and in the election; Biden mops up the Republicans' Veep candidate in the Veep debate as well.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 10:53 PM) Why do you care if I do? I don't. I just think it's a shame many people believe there is no God. I believe there is a higher power in charge of all of us. I believe in a Christian way of life and believe that without God there is nothing. You can believe whatever you want obviously as can I. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 10:54 PM) I don't "care" about God, because I don't believe "God" exists. The only God I know of is named Michael Jordan. Why don't you believe? QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 12:13 AM) God and the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy and Bigfoot are all pretty pissed at the non-believers. Many of us in America believe God has nothing to do with the Tooth Fairy and Bigfoot but for some reason we can be mocked openly without scorn of others. It's amazing how people mock believers all the time and these same people would dare not mock other groups for their beliefs. I believe God is in control.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 09:54 PM) Guards are sometimes the culprit. Damn. Arrest them. Charge them. Throw them in solitary forever. Geezus.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 07:57 PM) I don't think it's the thread-starting. I think it's the fact that you have opinions that 99% of the people here don't understand or agree with. So that means 1 percent like me! They like me!

Guys can you move this thread? I've thought about it more and it is disrespectful to one of the greatest White Sox of all time, definitely one of our top catchers of all time, a position we've had some good ones like Fisk and Lollar and Martin and Karko, etc. This is disrespectful to a man having a great power year. No reason for it to draw traffic on the main site. AJ is not guilty at this time so WTF? Move it please to SLAM.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 07:54 PM) That's rather convenient. And by "all that is good" you mean your definition of "all that is good" and no one else's. Well I guess my definition of good is the normal definition of good. God is good I guess would mean having the qualities of the best father you know. Why don't people care about God anymore? Crazy world we live in. Kudos to the Democrats for returning God to their platform.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 07:23 PM) It's really hard to get it fixed too...because virtually no one is willing to stand up for the rights of prisoners to not be raped...because that involves standing up for the rights of prisoners. Most politicians get elected calling for tougher treatment of prisoners, not sympathy for them. Yeah but if this is going on in juvenile faciliites, cmon. Nobody wants juveniles thrashed while they are in the detention facility. The animals allowing this behavior need to go to jail.

I'm just glad he has to sit in prison another year at least while the appeal is run. This is like OJ. We all know the bastard did it. Let him stew in prison til he gets off on the lack of evidence in the appeal.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) And considering how many of these rapes happen in juvenile facilities, ...ugh i just can't even follow that up. It's too awful Why the hell aren't the people committing these crimes in juvenile facilities arrested and charged? Are these facilities being run by out of control animals? There are laws out there and if these facilities are all corrupt ... WTF is going on???? Get this problem fixed!

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 06:52 PM) wut. Their example of Obama not cooperating with Republicans is a deal in which he compromised so much that it pissed Democrats off and yet Republicans still refused to agree...and that's both sides being at fault? I thought it gave pretty good evidence of Obama not wanting to work with the other side at all.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 01:02 PM) You sound like Wolf Blitzer. I'm not as Wolfish today after reading that Bill lied. I'm sick of getting misled. Obama isn't exactly bending over backwards to work with the other side, it appears. I feel mighty dumb the day after. Bill made me feel good about the country and the possibilities of the future for a night and fooled me for an hour. I got duped. My bad. http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-clinton-c...--election.html QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 06:20 PM) Don't fall for it. Republicans won't work with Democrats, and Democrats won't work with Republicans. Rinse, repeat, give up on the government working for the people instead of for their own interests. So we are all doomed? Country needs fixing. QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 07:06 PM) Honestly the first place this needs to start is just with regular everyday people. The Republican party has faults, the Democratic party has just as many. Instead of pretending that your party, whoever it may be, is better, perhaps we need to start by agreeing that neither are good. I would agree with that. Both candidates are awful. Horrible choice for president. You have a do-little man with no leadership ability in Obama vs. a rich, clown-like figure in Romney who garners little respect.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 05:15 AM) What I am saying is Obama can't help it if the Republican Party sticks with their stance of the only goal being removing Obama from office. They literally stated that was their #1 goal and refused to work with him to make him look as bad as possible so he wouldn't get re elected. I'm not going to find the quotes but Clinton gave it in his speech tonight. The #1 goal of the republican party the last 4 years has been to make sure Obama doesn't get relected when it should of been lets work with him to fix this mess. That's not Obama's fault that's a party being hateful and refusing to work with the leader of their country. Oops. Looks like Obama has not wanted to cooperate with the Repubs as well. Sounds like the impasse is his fault as well. Guess there usually are two sides to every story. Read this. http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-clinton-c...--election.html And Woodward gives huge evidence the Obama White House has no leader and is a joke. Let's face facts. The bottom line: Obama is a better choice than Romney but Obama is a joke of a President. http://news.yahoo.com/bob-woodward-book-de...-151043612.html

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 03:33 PM) This So sick of rightwing Christians trying to impose their version of God on everyone. Their version of God loves waging wars, doesn't care about the poor and the sick (every man for themselves!), and hates gay people. I'm a conservative Christian/Republican and that's not my version of God. God is basically all that is good. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) I think religion had a nice long run. It ain't dead yet. Although IMO we've offended God enough. QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 07:02 PM) I agree, but that's where having a former president with an almost 70% approval ratings will help us. Obama gonna unleash Bubba on the battleground states from here to election day, I'm sure he can deliver enough white working class votes to the Obama column to win a majority of those states... We got this. You always had this. Obama in a landslide.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) All the more reason for me to approve the catch-all thread. Gee thanks. I like you, too.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 03:01 PM) It's one of those things where we probably don't know the whole story, and will never know it. All I know is that I'll be happy if AJ is in the lineup Friday night. As far as rumors, no player is above suspicion. No team is above suspicion. MLB made its bed in the 90's and early 00's, letting anyone do anything. And this is just bi-product of that era. No player may be above suspicion, but it is unfair to talk about certain players without evidence. Like somebody said in the thread, catchers are pretty smart guys and smart people don't get banned from baseball.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 05:39 PM) I haven't weighed in on this but I feel that I should, since that old SI incident was brought up. I STILL believe rumors are fair game on, and good for, a message board format. We are not professional journalists, nor do we pretend to be. We are fans discussing baseball and rumors are naturally going be part of the conversation. This rumor was out there and of course it was going be discussed here, and microscopically scrutinized. Nobody threw AJ under bus, but there were some that were, well, checking the bus schedule, I believe. No one seems absolutely sure how or where this started but as far as Soxtalk is concerned, I'm not throwing anybody under that bus either. The rumor was out there, it was brought to the attention of the board and discussed. Very similar situation to the SI incident before that jerk from SI printed it. True, but some people on here said they had inside knowledge of it being true, didn't they? I take all rumors the same, as rumors. Good for AJ; he raised his power numbers on his own! Nice job, AJ, you are one of my favorite Sox ever. A winner.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 05:40 AM) They don't lose their jobs they get commended by their party and get crazy support. You did listen to Clinton tonight right? The country is in much better shape than it was 4 years ago. He proved it and had the stones to call Romney and Ryan out on their straight out lies that Obama hasn't improved the country. When Obama took office we were losing 750k jobs a month, we're now creating jobs every month(4.5 million new jobs in the last 2.5 years). He fixed the the auto industry, he passed healthcare and hes working on student loans and making college affordable again. Don't listen to them say he hasn't done anything because he has and he has the country pointing upwards again. Yes I heard it, but so far through my own eyes I haven't seen it. Hopefully Billy's stats are correct.

Is it true they booed God? I'm so sick of the country not believing in God anymore. Geez.