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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:50 AM) the only reason someone would (rationally) fear being raped in prison is because there is a serious problem with rape in prison. If you want that fear to continue, you want that problem to continue. I don't think you actually support continued prison rapings, but that's where your statement leads to. I'd like to hear your guys' position on the killer. That's the topic here. You guys seem to be offended that I think he's a piece of s***. I think I've made my position clear on the prison rape matter. Hell yes I hope he dreads the possibility of going to the general population and fears the possibility of rape. I want the guy's life to be a living hell. I'm a little appalled you guys seem to be taking the side of this creep.

As expected, the pundits are not talking at all about Barack's actions the last four years, just the words of Michelle's speech tonight. I thought it was a very good speech, she's very likeable. But the fact remains they've been in office four years and it was a s***ty four years. He's going to win (as long as the voters come out and aren't overconfident) but he needs to get off his ass and start working on the economy. Fixing the economy. If the other side blocks his good ideas he needs to do what politicians did in the past and meet with some of these men on the other side and get their support. Play politics. Get a consensus. He's a piss poor leader. He's going to win so he needs to get his act together and do a better job the next four years. Crucial years.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 05:41 AM) What's the point of going to the press? Maybe he should have more than 3 starting pitchers who are capable of pitching in August/September...see Sale/Quintana being arm weary and perhaps mentally drained, as Quintana normally has played 140 game seasons. Where was he when we needed at least one more starting pitcher. Why did he hire a manager with NO experience, and now he's going to complain about it? As much as he gets defended for this season, and rightfully so, maybe we need both of them gone (Ozzie/KW) just so the entire organization can have a completely fresh start. Maybe even Cooper, although if there's anyone who should get the benefit of the doubt, it's probably him. I don't think it's some diabolical scheme to go to the press. He hasn't talked to them a while and made himself available is my guess and like Ozzie, he's pretty honest. So he blasted away. He's probably pissed which he should be. Team is having a good season but pissed it away in Detroit again. Is one win in a pair of three-game series in Motown too much to ask? 2-4 woulda been meaningful. 0-6? He's furious so he vented. And to not bunt at Cabrera? Who is paying the Sox checks? Not Detroit. That was ridiculous, not to bunt just because it's against the baseball code of not embarrassing an injured player.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 02:24 AM) That he's disgusted by the stupid baseball he saw over the weekend and that they need to change things up for when they play the Tigers next week. I have no problem with him calling out the team, as that was a very bad series. I said last week if I was Reinsdorf I'd call the coaches in my office and ask them WTF about not bunting Cabrera out of the game. It's like the Sox were trying to not embarrass the guy or something. I mean if our third baseman was one legged, the opponent would have bunted all weekend, you just know it. I'm glad Kenny spoke up. He sounded furious which he should be. It's a long season and Sox entered the Detroit series in a position of strength, only needing to win one to be two up. And he should be pissed tonight as well. You can't blow opportunities like this if you want to make the playoffs. Kudos to Kenny.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 04:07 AM) Less than 16k in attendance tonight. Absolutely ridiculous And all 16,000 wish they were someplace else. Sox didn't deserve a crowd after the last 6 in Detroit. And tonight? They could be 2 up? You can't blow opportunities like tonight. They'd be right back to 2 up but couldn't beat the s***ty Twins again. Unacceptable. I'd expect the crowd tomorrow will be 5,000 to 10,000. It's like the Sox got that early lead for once and just stopped playing. Was it 3-0 or 4-0 after two innings? What a joke.

It's pretty unacceptable for a team in a pennant race that had a horrible road trip to come home and get boatraced by the worst team in the American League. At least the fans didn't pay to support this crap tonight.

Haven't seen the game thread since we were winning. What's the mood been on this total embarrassment of a game?

Phil Humber ... the guy whose career ended the same year he pitched a perfect game. Wow.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:32 AM) Atta boy Dayan. This is getting to be like Big 10 basketball, win at home, lose on the road against the good teams and hope to play .500 or above against the weaker teams on the road. What a great analogy. Nice. QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:33 AM) Somehow? I can't jinx the Sox by saying they'll win the division nor am I convinced that is the Sox destiny.

If the Sox somehow win the division and Detroit misses the playoffs, would Leyland be fired?

Tank with a shot past third for the nice double. That guy coulda maybe made the play in a perfect Twins world. Nice RBI for Tank. 3-0. Sox once again appear to have short memories in shrugging off a horrific series.

Great hit by Rios taking it to right. Sox up 2-0. All right!

Nice. 1-0 Sox. Ground out by Paulie.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:22 AM) embarrassingly bad attendance tonight. I am/will be out of town for next weeks series against the tigers, and i am contemplating buying tickets and not going simply so that Tigers fans dont overrun the cell Damn. I never thought of that. Are they gonna have half the crowd? s***.

Nice hit, Adam. OK, White Sox. We gotta get these 2 runs in. No bulls*** tonight.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:20 AM) Wow, tickets on stubhub are goin as low as 50 cents for tomorrows game. Why would the seller even bother? That baffles me.

It'd be nice to get two more years of Youk at 6 mill a year. Any chance of that?

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:15 AM) Game 163 in 2008 was a packed (blacked out) house. Good point. That was a great day.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 01:06 AM) The Cell is a ghost town tonight, shame! I think it's just habit. People don't go to the games anymore. I think it's a conscious decision based on price. I wonder if we made the wild card game if it'd be sold out. I mean the fake playoff game, the one-game thing.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 12:07 AM) Within 2 pages you went from lousy and abysmal to C+. It's hard to take you seriously. C isn't exactly a great grade. I don't think of the tone of my posts suggested Viciedo was scum. More like blah (for this season). At least that was my intent. I don't discount room for improvement though the fan in me wished for runaway success like Trout. For instance, I don't want the Sox to trade him and I do want him to open next season as starting leftfielder.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 08:44 PM) Dude, if you want him to fear being raped, then you want there to be a legitimate reason for that dear.unless you're hoping he irrationally fears things and coincidentally picked rape. I disagree. I want him to fear being raped because I feel he is the scum of the earth. He is lower than low. He is dirt. He doesn't deserve to live. So I hope every moment of his waking life is spent in fear and or terror. I feel this way because of the harm he inflicted on all those people. He went after defenseless people in a movie theatre, one of the most cowardly acts of all time. All the victims have loved ones who I feel for. I care about what happens to them, not some douchebag scumbag shooting defenseless people. I feel this way because he ended the lives of many people, people who deserved to live long lives. Yes I hate this man. Does that make me evil. I hope God forgives me if my anger constitutes a crime against humanity. Yes I want that scumbag to fear. But I do not wish anybody to harm a bone on his body and to break any laws in attacking him. That's basically my position but if everybody wants to add things that aren't there, go ahead. I really appreciate sentences that start with the words ... "None of us win as long as there are people like you ...." Really classy. Yeah people like me are really bad. People like me really are trash.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 08:14 PM) How are we defining liberal? Because certain definitions I am absolutely one, other definitions I probably fall into "other" category, as I am a utilitarian (I am close a libertarian on certain things, but I dont want to be associated with them on others.) What do ya mean the South won't change socially? What do they do down there that is so bad? Just curious.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 02:08 PM) ***Awaits greg775's post proclaiming that the "Tigers will never win the division if Verlander can't beat the scrub Royals"*** Uh oh. The Royals are coming to the Cell soon. Hope the Sox are carrying momentum from a sweep of the Twins into that always scary series.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 09:30 PM) During his slump I've been impressed with his ability to get himself out of jams. His whip has been astronomical but his era is still decent. This tells me he really knows how to pitch. Anybody who has a problem with Jones and Viciedo is either baseball stupid, or has a clear agenda which doesn't allow them any objectivity. I have no problem with Viciedo; I'm merely pointing out he's having an average at best season considering his BA and on base percentage to go with his overall production of runs. I'd give him a C. If he really is only 23, I guess I'd up that to a C plus. What would you give him?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 08:25 PM) No I will not apologize. You are the one who said you want him to fear being raped in prison, yet you yourself cannot come forward and say that you think prison rape should happen. So basically, either you want him to fear something that never ever happens, or you are happy to look the other way when it happens and feel that your conscience is clear. If you want to say that he should fear being raped, then come forward and tell me why you think prison rape is ok and should be encouraged. Otherwise, you're demanding that he be kept in fear of something that never happens, which is just silly. Either you endorse prison rape so that he fears it or you believe its a bad thing. Take your pick. You assume so much in that post it is not worth my effort to educate you any more. I told you I don't endorse his being raped. I told you I want him to fear being raped. That's pretty cut and dried. You accused me of wanting somebody raped, being happy about somebody being raped, which is not the case. You won't apologize for it. Good for you. You get the last word with your refusal to apologize. You win. On to the next topic.