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I think any other player would have been a lottery ticket at best.

Yeah I think it's lighter than it should be, but I don't think this single handily is killing the rebuild. Last year Vargas was a top 40 prospect. The other two are young but have promising profiles that don't really exist in the system. It's for sure missing one player, but it's not AWFUL to me.

I mean, I would like a guy the Sox traded for to be good...?

Steele walker?

Pretty sure that was wrong info by that guy.

He tweeted about it. Not nearly as angry as everyone here.

He was communicating with his camp. They didn’t tell him this. There is no reason to not believe they didn’t tell him this.

I’m not accepting Drew Thrope write offs already.

That makes far more sense.

That has to be a typo of some sort.

Wait. Isn't Getz mad because he thought they had very open communication about everything with his agent even until the night before the story dropped that he wouldn't pitch without an extension? Why would he have an idea if that information was being withheld from him?

I mean Vargas has just as much of a chance to be a legit offensive piece as anyone else they would have gotten probably. And no, I'm not defending the trade.

I think it would be hard for anyone to maximize his trade value right now. Dude needs to get right the rest of the season. Looks awful.

I don't understand why the Dodgers would be okay with this, either. This does not add up at all.

Did the Cardinals just not give up anything but Edman? How is that possible?

Also has a nice mustache.

It's sports, man. Have some hope once in a while.

They can even have Tanner Banks thrown in and I'll take a lower guy.

Dodgers just traded someone for cash considerations. Gearing up for Tendi!

They have to start at some point so may as well start with someone with huge upside. They should probably be going for much higher ceilings instead of higher floors if they want to dig themselves out of this.

Yeah I don't even consider him a candidate. Just let him eat 5 innings (good or bad) every 5 days to get you through this misery.

Fedde does ultimately seem like a Cardinals pitcher.

They did give up Yordan Alvarez to the Astros which was a huge misstep, but overall yeah they don't trade away too much. Most of their position players are free agent signings, too. So not entirely sure at how well they develop position players.

In the Sox defense, they gave up Lance Lynn and Joe Kelly in that deal.

We don't know what deals are actually "trying" to get done, though. The ones that for sure have to happen is Fedde, Kopech, Brebbia, Pham, Dejong - which the final two are just lotto tickets. You'd be selling low on Robert right now, and who knows what happened with Crochet after this all came out. I think you can get Fedde, Kopech, Brebbia, Pham and Dejong done in the next 36 hours or whatever it is.