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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) Doesn't matter about the return at this point. The return is to get the 5.9 and 4.0 million cap hits off the books and have the young players take their spots. lolololo so the whole screw up during the draft and after, when the hawks could have gotten them both, and didn't b/c the hawks were asking for a better rtn. this whole thing could have been avoided esp in trading Saad, b/c the hawks again were asking for a hefty rtn. this doesn't make sense.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 11:59 PM) If they plan on getting Oduya and Kruger back, which sounds like it once they clear space. Sharp and Bickell are both gone. how, if they are not traded by now. also keep in mind what will be the rtn for them, then why are they not traded.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:58 PM) 1. You will actually get something back for Sharp 2. I don't know if they have money for Oduya, Kruger, and Sharp if and i mean if sharp is traded. lets see what the rtn will be. i really don't see and i hope i am wrong, but bickell and steeger will not get traded.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:39 PM) What does this have to do with KW. RH is the GM who signed him. By most accounts KW focuses more scouting new talent as opposed to signing players. Unless we go back to the discussion of RH being an idiot to take a job where someone else has all of the power of your job. so let me try to conclude this strange dealings. so 1 ws win will give a free pass of yrs of mismanagement, lousy farm system, an org that was floundering, with no direction. the last 10 yrs this org was going no where and all this is forgiven b/c of the w/s ring in 2005.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:44 PM) Because pitching is more important than hitting, especially in the playoffs. and that is where the vicious circle comes in. the org first needs to get the players to get to the playoff.

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) If you have an academy type setting you could also have school. These are very young kids. Teach them english, it would help them if they come over and being bilingual would help those that don't make it have a skill in the tourism industry. that will be a better thought process, but i really don't trust this being done. however, i see some kind of agency overseeing this additional training. that will cost extra money for the over head.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) I dont understand why we feel the need to deal sharp. Get rid of Bickell's salary and we are almost good to go. who would really want to trade for bickell.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) Nicely done Spencer Adams. Peralta looking good through 4 innings. both are really coming into their own.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 08:11 PM) another one disloyal to the organization I see. your name has been forwarded to the proper authorities. excellent.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 08:08 PM) Two words. Mike.Yastrzemski. i really am undecided on him. i really like Chance Sisco-catcher. but i really the sox making any trade with Balt. can you remember any trade with them.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 07:34 PM) You still take the best package you can get and then you use your excess assets to upgrade your gaps. and that is what the sox are doing. using an asset in a trade for a catcher. in this discussion.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 05:20 PM) Kenny Williams is a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them. This isn't Ozzie Guillen and his 5th grade education we are talking about here. that was harsh.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 06:11 PM) The same thing that happens to the kids in the US who don't succeed in baseball. They have to move on with their lives. Think about it. There are 750 roster spots in major league baseball. Each year over 1200 kids are picked in the Rule 4 draft alone. The vast majority of those kids never see a day of major league baseball. That is without talking about international signings, undrafted free agents, etc. If you don't have a plan for life after baseball, you are making a big mistake because the odds are not ever in your favor. the problem is, these kids know nothing else but playing ball. it is the wisdom of these, who set up these complexes to think of the common good. wasn't there some kind of issue that was brought up in the offseason about this??

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:42 PM) False, you take the best available package no matter what position they play. you take the bpa in draft. then you trade for a specific need. if not, then those holes will always be there. question, to mask the holes the team has, how would it be done??

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 05:04 PM) The draft will solve a lot of the issues that go on with LA free agency process. No longer will kids be taken off the market early by trainers who earn a bonus by steering their players to certain teams, no longer will teams be able to hoard the top talent, and it will put all amateur players on a level playing field. There are some questions, like what happens to international free agents like the Cubans and Japanese, but I believe that MLB will use the same criteria that it uses for eligibility for J2 signing as the framework of who will be eligible in a world draft. The draft will be slotted and be pretty similar in function to the Rule 4 draft. I would imagine during the next CBA there will be two drafts slotted similarly that will take place about a month apart. The LA countries will be up in arms because all of the corruption leads to a steady revenue stream into those countries, but they really have no alternatives. They can restrict their players from coming, but will then risk defections as Cuba has for years, or they can attempt to start their own leagues, which will not be able to generate enough revenue to compete, they can try to create an agreement to send their players to the NPB, but the money is still likely going to be better in what the players will receive in a MLB draft. The largest issue I see is that the buscans will get out of the business so there may be a void in the player development in the LA countries. To compensate for that and to establish goodwill after imposing the draft I think MLB should divert funds into creating MLB amateur academies and youth leagues. Academies not run by any team but overseen by the league in general to help develop fundamentals and allow scouts from all teams the opportunities to see the players up close. This can be beneficial in expanding the foundation of players that the draft can draw from. Of course you would have a few in the DR, but you could also expand into places like Panama, Curacao, Brazil and Mexico. Puerto Rico took a step back from producing talent when the draft was put in place as a lot of the player development infrastructure eroded. But with the Puerto Rico Baseball academy they have bounced back and started producing high level talent again including Carlos Correa and Christian Vazques in the last few drafts. there is a major problem i see, these young kids will be playing to develop a skill to play ball...... what happens to those who doesn't develop, doesn't make the big club, they have no skills out side playing ball. with this responsibility of setting up a complex to promote baseball. it also become the inherent responsibility, of these complexes to teach them a skill as well. that is the draw back of something like this. not doing the skills training is like abusing them, taking advantage of them taking and profiting from a talent they may produce. all b/c they may have a unique skill that can be exploited for entertainment value in america past-time. i will now name it..... it is like child prostitution.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Judge is the guy for me. I doubt you're getting Severino anyway, and why waste your time. but this system needs to fix the holes of the system. if the sox are trading, it is get players to fix the team as a rtn.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) I thought this was going to happen right when they hired him. i will admit this, i was hoping for the best, i am a RV fan. but this yr was the yr to either succeed or cut bait.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) For some reason all I get when Kenny has been talking is his ego. I don't get that he has some grandiose plan or that he is posturing with the media or other teams. He wants to show that he is still in charge and the mastermind. He cant stand to be out of the spotlight that he had when he was GM. i agree, i wish someone would remind him of his dutiful effort of epic failure of building the farm with lousy draft picks. this state of this team is b/c of him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) It is a relationship. Kenny talks to them so that they can be used later. it is the same relationship that all GMs have with the media in this town, with a couple of exceptions. i just don't know. maybe it is my dislike of KW since the late 90's that stops me from thinking logically. so i am lost here. i still think this is not the answer.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) The Brewers and Padres firings of their managers prove that a managerial change doesn't spark a team. Brewers have gone hot lately, but the Padres are playing .333 ball since Bud Black firing. By no means am I saying that Robin is right for the job, just mentioning that firing people doesn't always spark teams. the biggest screw up, imo is when the FO took some time to have some sort of classes with RV.... wasn't that around the Balt series. it was like putting RV in the class of how to be a manager 101. that was when i started to think of him more than a puppet

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:50 PM) I think Sanchez is a bit overrated. If the Yankees are calling, I'm starting out the conversation with Severino or Judge. severino yes, judge no, i would still want sanchez, b/c the sox doesn't have a cat in the system.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:47 PM) Then you get a part of the fan base who swears he never takes responsibility for anything. good point, but to keep talking to the press??? let the team get pasted this horrible start.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) So fire Robin, right? a. only the pro's will know more about that. b. if someone can convince the owners that the vp and manager needs to be change.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) My concern is more on mental preparation than physical. in the beginning of the season, i thought it was more both, mental and physical. now i think it is more mental with a little of attitude of i don't care it is a lost season and we have a puppet manager. sprinkle on top.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) Toronto will get a first hand look at shark when he pitches against them on thursday. tor has a really good of young arms. however i like the yanks, if they start off will G Sanchez-cat in the rtn.