soxfan420

they have the same problem(not really a problem) but everyone has there own ideas. and the only way to really understand them is to listen. and see if it is just hog wash or if there is ligit stuff behind it.

Marino Cordoba and his organization for Displaced Afro-Colombians. How's that for proof. I had the honor of meeting him. He and a lot of the people in that organization lived in Colombia. He told stories of nearly his entire village being slaughtered by the paramilitaries (children and all) So, he was also targeted by the paramilitaries. He fled to the US and got in. It's a national organization, I am sure you can find more information on it. I'd give you more but I am at home now and left a lot of my research back at my place in Urbana for spring break. The drugs are being run by General Uribe and his paramilitary death squads too. Well we are probally giving them aid because it is goin to the people, in iraq the aid goes to suddan. And because columbia is a mess we should let suddan kill more people is that what you are saying????

yup we leave now and half that country will be dead in a month from suddan punishing them. and thus making us loose the support of the iraqi people.

Actually we have been bombing Iraq every few days per week for the past 12 years. The UN knows about it. One of the previous leaders of the Committee on Humanitarianism actually resigned from the post in protest of the US/UK bombings for the past 12 years. You should ask groups like Voices in the Wilderness who has been to Iraq. They'll tell you about how we've been bombing them for 12 years now. Bush I may have been a f***, but at least he respected international law enough to know that he couldn't topple a government legally. I guess that lesson got lost on his son. so you say we should just let him get away with this stuff, it sounds like you back suddan to mean in a way, you agree he is a mad man. and then he needs to be removed. and you say there are ways to go about it peacefully but yet ive stated this several times what do you want us to do over there we have been trying for 12 years to get him out there without a war but no luck. do you want us to keep trying till he passes away of old age???

Thanks for the insult, 420. I know I must be doing something right when all you have is insults for your arguments. It seems by assuming war is the only answer, you're the one that claims to know all. March 7: Hans Blix quoted as saying that they were finding stuff and they were fine. But Bush wasn't content with that. He needed to bomb the s*** out stuff. The UN inspectors should have been given more time. It's that simple. Or how about the Bush regime telling the truth and not using plagiarized info from 12 years ago? There were various resolutions floating around the UN that were non-military and a vast majority of them called for the inspectors to be given adequate time. How's that for a reason? the insult was only made to get some ideas from you. nothing personal, im interested in your peace resoulutions but you still have not stated one way that suddan would agree with just the un has some posiblitys to that i say there is a posiblty to the world ending tommorow, doenst mean it is goin to happen. and with suddan not willing to agree to any of them i would suggest. we offered him to leave the country with no crimes against him for what he has done with 7 billion dollars in his pocket. and he wouldnt do it, what else can we do besides give him a new country to run?

i said it was there right to protest just if you protest you better have some ideas that work thanks though i suggest you read all the words.

Thanks for the insult, 420. I know I must be doing something right when all you have is insults for your arguments. It seems by assuming war is the only answer, you're the one that claims to know all. March 7: Hans Blix quoted as saying that they were finding stuff and they were fine. But Bush wasn't content with that. He needed to bomb the s*** out stuff. The UN inspectors should have been given more time. It's that simple. Or how about the Bush regime telling the truth and not using plagiarized info from 12 years ago? There were various resolutions floating around the UN that were non-military and a vast majority of them called for the inspectors to be given adequate time. How's that for a reason? and how many do you think suddan would have agreed to. Do you deny that suddan hasnt been playing the UN/US for years playing games of hide and seak with his weapons that he should have never had. and to say that the UN would have found all his weapons is just niave its a huge country and we found a huge building used to produce chemical weapons that the un has never seen and had been there for years. The UN was walked though Iraq by suddan himself, those inspectors didnt go anywhere he didnt want them to. war isnt the anwer you say but you yourslef has stated he is a mad man. So why are you against use removing him????

no problem, you just have to read things before you post them i have friends over there in the 101st air bourne. so i hate reading stuff about death. but the #'s are far less than wars in past so far less familys have to go though the dreadfull fealings of losing a loved one.

Thats what i thought you guys are just abunch of people that wanna say give peace a chance because it sounds good. you really have no idea about how you do that with an evil man but yet b**** about it when we do something to solve it because it isnt the peacefull way. SO PEACE PROTESTERS IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO PROTEST I GIVE YOU THAT BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO HOW TO DO IT. JUST SHUT THE f*** UP. IM ALL FOR PEACE BUT I DONT SEE ANYWAY AROUND IT.

I don't know if you read Defense Department documents from 1941 when they were discussing US involvement in World War II. I highly suggest you read them since they have been declassified. One that caught my eye was along the lines of "Many people will not support the increase of US spheres of influence in the world as a reason to engage in the war. The suffering of others MUST be shown. This will have the better propaganda effect." I think the same sort of reasoning is going on right now. I want to see the families on the news that have lost lives because of the US bombings from the past 12 years. I wonder how thankful they are for having the US roll in and bomb the s*** out of them again. If we are so intent on fixing human rights as well, then why so much aid to Colombia when we know of their human rights abuses? Wouldn't it be easier to fix that by shutting of the monetary faucet to them? I'm not saying Saddam isn't evil...he is. I just don't think that the usage of military force this fast without exhausting diplomatic solutions was good reasoning. There were other ways but our President didn't want to waste his time. I guess it's easy for Bush to wage war when he's not the one fighting. other ways what ones, ive been trying to get you to give some but no luck thus far, the civilions we have killed is a tragedy, but it is far less than the ones we are helping in the long run. has far has 12 years of bombing what are you talking about bombs have not been goin off over there for 12 straight years, there has been hunderds of attempts to get him out of there without war. without any luck. 12 years of killing your own people. i think that is enough to warrent a war to free them.

If they'd spend their money on pitching rather than on guys like Greg Vaughn, maybe they would win. i dont really think that was there fault he was really good for 2 years and then he just floped with no protection in the lineup. noone saw that coming. Being really good for 2 seasons shouldn't earn you a near $10M per season contract. .272, 50, 119 in 1998 .245, 45, 118 in 1999 Those are good power numbers, but his average is bad, and his strikeout to walk ratio is not good (combined 258 k's, 164 walks). His OBP (.363 and .347) is alright at best Very up and down player throughout his career (in other words, not consistent), and did not deserve the money he got IMO. Bad move by the D'Rays. well that is when contracts where getting out of hand and everyone was signing those kinds of contracts.

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i hear alot of you say give peace a chance but i have not heard one word out of you for ideas. what do you think we should do to fix this problem. from talking to most of you agree this is a problem, but say war is not the answer. I JUST WANT AN ANSWER WHAT SHOULD WE DO THEN THOSE WHO WANT TO THINK THEY KNOW ALL(apu cough cough) every time i ask for an idea you go on about worst countrys and never say a damn thing about my question. I hate war VERY, VERY much i just dont think there is any other way around it to save the iraqi people.

We let much worse human rights abusers go off on their merry way (i.e. Colombia) ::see other post about Colombia I wrote for more details:: But we give Colombia so much aid yet they abuse the most human rights. Why don't we invade them? Why aren't they on the government's anti-terror plan? We're going after Iraq because they can't fight back and they have oil. We continue to support ruthless dictators. The cost of this immoral, unjust and illegal war does not justify the end of ousting Saddam. The $80 billion cost, the lives of all that died, the trauma of families, rebuilding the infrastructure of a nation that has had so many people die at the hands of UN Sanctions and US bombing raids the past 12 years....what happens down the road when they democratically elect a person who embodies hatred of the US for all the destruction it has wrought on the country? Do we go in and topple him like we did to Allende in Chile when he was democratically elected? apu i have lost so much respect for you during this debates. here you are saying that peace is the answer. im still waiting for even 1 idea that might work that doesnt involve violence, and it seems you have no compasion for people dieing because we put someone in charge being anti-american(not calling you one) is fine, has long has you treat your people with respect, and show you are trying. and regarding columbia the government is not perfect, but it is trying and it is hard to get aheaad when you have big drug warlords, and gangs running rampant in your city that is why they are getting so much aid, i would like to see some sort of evidence of these things columbia government is doin

Then why would Bin Laden's "head guy" be helping the Iraqi fight the US..? because he hates the u.s. i dont think there is a link here.

March 7, Hans Blix was quoted as saying that Iraq was disarming. Why not let the weapons inspectors do their work? Oh yeah, cuz Bush had a hard-on for war. I ask again, if Saddam is so brutal, then why did we arm him? Waging this war is piss poor foreign policy. Saddam may be evil, but what about all the much worse governments that we continue to fund just because they are anti-Communist (i.e Colombia)....Colombia is a much worse human rights abuser than Saddam could ever have dreams about being. But Colombia is one of the top recipients of aid from the US and we also train their troops in the WHISC (#1 in amount of troops sent to the WHISC per year) Why don't we go overthrow Uribe then? He's a much worse dictator than Saddam...or maybe you just don't have compassion for the Colombians that want to unionize, criticize their government or even grow food? (Uribe gasses the peoples' crops if they are against his paramilitary death squads) I really don't understand how we got to be such a country that cares about human rights in the last year or two. Given our track record of getting into bed with bloodthirsty dictators, etc. I really have a hard time believing that this is about humanitarian purposes. Or if we are going to wage war, then how about the President tell the world the truth? Or maybe then he couldn't justify the war if he told the truth. I think the is some media bias goin on defintly, and to say that this is not has important has other is just has bad has romans. just because it isnt the worst place in the world for people to live doesnt mean it shouldnt be fixed

if sox go deep expect this team to stay intac with the addition of another 10 million kind of guy has a pitcher.

pedro is gonna require to much money that i think the sox could use in better ways.

If they'd spend their money on pitching rather than on guys like Greg Vaughn, maybe they would win. i dont really think that was there fault he was really good for 2 years and then he just floped with no protection in the lineup. noone saw that coming.

he is not saying it isnt a tragedy to lose even one life he is just saying the #'s that you guys are saying are huge are really small compared to past wars.

I never said having a great military is bad. I said that the arms race is bad. There is no more Soviet 'Evil Empire' for us to fight anymore. No justification for the Star Wars program. Do you think that Star Wars will stop suitcase bombs and hijackers with box cutters? There are crazy people in the world with weapons and are too eager to use them, one of them is sitting in the White House. so again you are saying sit back and let suddan do what he wants with his people when we are responsible for puting him there?

I talked to people who helped to craft 1441 and also helped with 677, 678. (mainly Doug Rokke) and from what he told me in the writing of it and I assume that he knows what he is talking about because he helped write them, unauthorized force by any nation is not covered by the UN resolutions and also the explicitness of authorizing military force in these resolutions is not there. These resolutions don't make it a legal war. Why do we have to have a war criminal President? 420, tell me how it is not hypocritical punishing a country for violating UN Resolutions when we are violating not only UN resolutions but international law? Well when you have a dictator that is killing his own people, and there is a law that says you shouldnt attack a country. well i say break the law and save peoples lives. seriously if you have an answer to this war without war then im all ears. ive said that once but you never replyed with a dirrect answer just gave some more bulls*** that had nothing to do with what i asked you.

If the Sox are smart, they'll try to sign Colon mid-season. Hopefully we can get off to a 1st place start, and somewhere mid-summer, negotiate a contract with Colon (maybe 4 years, $40M or so), and hope he signs it. Rather than getting into a bidding war in the off-season that we would likely lose. i would not mind that and my dream would be to add one more #1 starter while keeping colon and MB, any good fa pitchers next year besides colon?

I never said having a great military is bad. I said that the arms race is bad. There is no more Soviet 'Evil Empire' for us to fight anymore. No justification for the Star Wars program. Do you think that Star Wars will stop suitcase bombs and hijackers with box cutters? There are crazy people in the world with weapons and are too eager to use them, one of them is sitting in the White House. no but could prevent a nuke. the star wars is very capaple of acheiving. The world use to be flat remeber o yea and who said you couldnt ever split an atom. never say never with technology.

Violates: Article 2(4) of the UN Charter, Hague Convention on land warfare, Hague Convention on air warfare, the Treaty of Westphalia, US Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956), the International Declaration on Human Rights, the Genocide Convention, the 4 Geneva Conventions of 1949 and Protocol I thereof, the Kellogg Brand Pact, and the Nuremburg Judgement, Charter and Principles. But don't take my word for it. That's from former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and former World Court lawyer Francis A. Boyle. well if it means saving lives than who cares about laws??? dont peoples lives come before law??? i thought so but hey maybe you care about some "laws more than what is humain"