soxfan420

How many people from France do you know? If you said that it was probably black people who did it you'd get jumped on for being racist, but you can trash the French. Here's a thought, maybe it was some American(or anyone) vandals that cracked the statue? Sorry if I offend anyone but I am quite tired of this constant French attack and sometimes you have to put things in terms others understand to make a point. I got your back on this one you cant group a whole country on a couple of indivduals actions.

I wonder if those French idiots realize who made the Statue of Liberty... Ooh, but the whole thing with the Sept 11 pedestal pisses me off. Who do these cowardly maggots think they are? To disrespect the dead like that, how French of them... comeon its just like the peace protesters 90% of them are being good citizens the other 10% ruines it for the other 90%. it is the same thing with france just a couple of bad apples over there just like there are in the US

Apu more than holds his own. I guess I can cease posting since evidently my poists have been unread. I thought I held my own too but I guess not, evidently not even been read. So - see ya. I've read all your replies... Commented on several of them, too. i thought i have replied to several too

yea he finially got it after all those .187 batting averages

This goes to the off topic board because HOCKEY SUCKS

No they get paid money to bug kids and then they dont do anything to help. i swear they work just so they can come out with surveys

thanks

Well if france sends toops i would like that very much, but if they just want the oil then they are goin into this for the wrong reason i think. THIS WAR SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT OIL TO ANYONE IN IT.

i tryed to change that but for some reason we cant edit the topics anymore or delete our own topics

Slow him down about 3 steps and put a cannon on his arm and you have Borchard. i say more about 10 steps slower. harris can sure fly.

yea true but that favor goes towards us. they havent seen our pitchers yet.

im tired of teachers tell me i need to pick what i want to be when i grow up right now. s*** i still atleast 4 years of school after high school. has for right now i have no idea what i want to be when i grow up. i dont think i should have to pick right now. Im leaning towards a lawyer or something more helpful to man kind such has a doctor. But this is for the people telling me i have to pick now :fyou

give me some lies that have been stated? has for let the UN inspectors finish there work havent they been there for 12 years already???? with suddan showing them where they can search??? and how many times has he refused to let them go somewhere and kick them out only to let them back in by threats??? suddan is mad yes, but not a stupid man. he knows how to work the system and he did it for 12 years to long. The BBC and the Guardian have shown that Powell's UN report was plagiarized from info from 1991. (grad school work was plagiarized too) Also, the CIA has proven wrong Bush's claims about direct ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq since they can't find concrete proof no matter how much they sift through info. the first one ill admit no argument for plagurism like that, but if the same stuff that is goin on now that was goin on in 91. than there is no point in changing it. the link Al Qaeda and Iraq, there is a connection there they are both anti-US, and they have been in contact but have not worked side, by side. They probally discuss our weaknesses just like we do with our allies that are not fighting side by side with us.

You're quite welcome. I wish I had more of my research at home here with me and didn't leave it in Urbana. It's nice to debate with a guy that doesn't talk in sentence fragments or just call everybody a "Traitor" and that is their only argument. (like the pro-war people on the campus I go to) same with you. you have alot more information than i do on this, so its good to hear your side of the story who knows one day you might turn me against this war. or maybe ill get you to go not pro-war but understand the reasonings for our actions

in the "thin air" of arizona look at how many of our pitchers are producing.

In the mist of all this americans must remeber united we stand, we do have different opinions but we are all in the same country and dont let our differences become violient or full of hate, in which could end to the fall of this not perfect but great nation of ours. i look forward to the end of this war and to the end of suddan. and all you protesters just be glad you live in america if you where in iraq you would be dead already and you should feel great apreciance for our ancestors who made the great nation work thus far.

that doesnt mean they are connected, he just let someone use his land for some big time cash probally.

give me some lies that have been stated? has for let the UN inspectors finish there work havent they been there for 12 years already???? with suddan showing them where they can search??? and how many times has he refused to let them go somewhere and kick them out only to let them back in by threats??? suddan is mad yes, but not a stupid man. he knows how to work the system and he did it for 12 years to long.

I just used it as a justification that we can't claim a higher moral ground in the issue as a claim for going to war. We knew he was killing his own citizens with it, yet we sold it to him anyways. Now we're coming across saying that we are the "champions of the Iraqi people" when we provided Saddam with all the weapons he needed to do whatever the f*** he pleased to his own people and we never condemned it at all. Also, from 1991-1998, both Ritter and Rocke said that they got over 95% of the weapons from Iraq. So, there are a very slim amount in the country, if any. And any weapons he does have are useless goo by now because they have short shelf lives. please you dont think he can remake that s***??? once you learn something you cant unlearn something.

I just used it as a justification that we can't claim a higher moral ground in the issue as a claim for going to war. We knew he was killing his own citizens with it, yet we sold it to him anyways. Now we're coming across saying that we are the "champions of the Iraqi people" when we provided Saddam with all the weapons he needed to do whatever the f*** he pleased to his own people and we never condemned it at all. Also, from 1991-1998, both Ritter and Rocke said that they got over 95% of the weapons from Iraq. So, there are a very slim amount in the country, if any. And any weapons he does have are useless goo by now because they have short shelf lives. when we put him in power, we had no idea he was gonna take off the way he did. you admit he is killing his own people, and yet you want to take no action in fixing the problem, you say peace but not one idea have you stated that was good.

these is no code of conduct but if you want people to listen to you, dont go off and attack them take in what they say. and use it against them. that is how you get your msg across. you show them there flaws in there opionions. not by cussing them out or insulting them that just gets you into a shouting match with noone wins. you are missing the point son. go and smoke another joint. this war has givin me kind of an idea with what i want to do for the rest of my life, i think being a lawyer would be a good option for me. what do you guys think (Be honest) has for the point i get it now in the humor ways just got it mixed in with all the serious topics on this board right now.

Thanks for the insult, 420. I know I must be doing something right when all you have is insults for your arguments. It seems by assuming war is the only answer, you're the one that claims to know all. March 7: Hans Blix quoted as saying that they were finding stuff and they were fine. But Bush wasn't content with that. He needed to bomb the s*** out stuff. The UN inspectors should have been given more time. It's that simple. Or how about the Bush regime telling the truth and not using plagiarized info from 12 years ago? There were various resolutions floating around the UN that were non-military and a vast majority of them called for the inspectors to be given adequate time. How's that for a reason? and how many do you think suddan would have agreed to. Do you deny that suddan hasnt been playing the UN/US for years playing games of hide and seak with his weapons that he should have never had. and to say that the UN would have found all his weapons is just niave its a huge country and we found a huge building used to produce chemical weapons that the un has never seen and had been there for years. The UN was walked though Iraq by suddan himself, those inspectors didnt go anywhere he didnt want them to. war isnt the anwer you say but you yourslef has stated he is a mad man. So why are you against use removing him???? you go 420 i have still not heard one way out of this peacefully beside broad things like diplomic reseasons, but not one specific idea that might work. If you are gonna protest to change something you should have answers on how to do that your way and ive yet to hear what decent protester. the only debate ive even had a legit competitor is apu and he still hasnt givin me a way out of this peacefull way to end this, just says the world is f***ed so why go to iraq and help??? Ive said the only way that both sides could possibly agree on, but suddan said no to living the rest of his life with 7 billion dollars.

these is no code of conduct but if you want people to listen to you, dont go off and attack them take in what they say. and use it against them. that is how you get your msg across. you show them there flaws in there opionions. not by cussing them out or insulting them that just gets you into a shouting match with noone wins.

Well, CK, Saddam wouldn't be armed with weapons if we hadn't sold them all to him in the first place, now would he? Who is to say that 1) the plant has made chem weapons, 2) that Blix and Co. (if given adequate time and not pressured by the West Texas moron) would have found more weapons (I personally believe they could have if given time...if there are weapons there) etc. The Bush regime case for war was inadequate and they sent people off to die anyway. Sickening...absolutely sickening. you keep bringing this up that the USA was the one to arm saddam like its a defense for your position that we shouldnt go to war ...but since we did arm the stupid bastard isnt that even more of a reason for us to disarm him??? i agree but some people think that there is still a shot at peace but they dont have any ideas on how to go about it, when you offer someone 7 billion dollars, no punishment for killing thousands of people for disagreeing with you. i think that is has far has it goes for the only shot that peace had a chance and he refuesed. thus we go to war to remove him ourself.

The aid is mostly weapons and military tech. I'm just saying that we should shut off the $ faucet to Colombia too if we are serious about stopping human rights violations and we should go in and overthrow every government that is harming people (what about the US and their abuses to prisoners that have been found to be innocent? isn't that harming people) US intelligence officials were quoted in the Wall Street Journal that they were taking suspects over to countries where they didn't have Miranda rights so they could "pistol whip" (i.e. torture) information out of them. With the passage of PATRIOT II...anybody deemed "Subversive to the state" can be deported....Who is to say what subversive is? Protests? Boycotts? Sit-ins? An appeal to emotion by Bush is the last resort for his propaganda machine because he couldn't get the world to go to war any other way because he didn't have the facts. well we need info from them and you are not gonna get it from them by being nice(not saying it is the way to go) but when thousands of lives depend on it you have to do what you have to do. We are not killing them and not even coming close to killing them.