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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 11:25 PM) Thank God I am not in charge. My grand air strike campaign would of make Shock and Awe seem like the fireworks at the pier during the summer. I would totally enjoy seeing that.

Surfin USA is one of my favorite oldies songs. Thats a must for any beach CD.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) I think the biggest mistake in Bush's handling of the war on terrorism is our relationship with Pakistan. I dont believe that the Pakistani country is in line with what our goals are. I believe that Pakistan are doing more to help Bin Laden keep hiding. Mustraraf is afraid of an uprising and caters to extremist. I would of approached the mountains by both the paki boarder(after we surpressed their military by airstrikes) and then squeezed the mountain area creating a isolated zone. Now Bush aligned with Paki probably because Pakistan has nuclear weapons, and I believe that he probably weighed getting bin laden over toppling Mustaraff and pretty much guarenteeing that the nukes could get into extremist hands. I have a much simplier view on war, and it is probably good that I am not in charge. My view is when you go to war, you do whatever is required to win that war. Your responsibility is to save american lives, and do your best to limit civilian casualities. However now its changed. Because of the laser guided weapons and the first gulf war. People think that we can fight a war without any civilian casualties. Everytime the press shows a laser guided bomb missing the military base 100 feet to the left of Johns house everyone has a s*** fit. My view is if you live next to the ministry of defense and you know that a war is about to happen, f***ing move already. You are a dumbass and are a darwin award winner if you stay. If I was in charge I would have Ted Kennedy choking on his second helping of pumkin pie over my bombing campaign in the middle east. You should be lucky that Bush is in charge. LOL on most of your post. Only thing is that we have no choice but to do everything we can to help Musharaff hang on to power. I shudder to think what might happen if Al Qaeda gets their hands on Paki nukes.

QUOTE(bmags @ Feb 7, 2006 -> 04:13 PM) thirded. Fourthed ( is that even a word? )

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 10:57 PM) We can go back and forth all night with this but to be honest I have gotten serious about politics only after we went to war in Iraq. I can't speak about things during Clinton's presidency...hell I didn't even vote for him. So I won't comment on how well or how poorly he handled terrorism. What I do know is this adminstration did ZERO about it up until 9/11. Nothing. The 9/11 Commision clearly laid that out. And I'm supposed to feel like Bush is some hero or something. Who wouldn't be tough on terror after 9/11? s***, even Ross Perot would be the anti-terror czar after 9/11 if he were president. We all saw how tough on terror the Clinton Administration was on terrorists after the Air Force Barracks bombing in Saudi Arabia in 1996, or the embassy bombings in 1998, and the US Cole attack in 2000.

Also recall that the previous administration had the government of Sudan offer to hand him over and Clinton refused.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 09:03 PM) OK. Anybody want to introduce me to GOOD rap? Is it kinda like being shot in the back of the head instead of being burned to death?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 09:14 PM) I take issue with this. I was opposed to the war, and it had nothing to do with any thought that Saddam was anything other than a maniac. I was against the war because he was a militarily impotent maniac, making him no more dangerous than any one of a few dozen other dictators out there. There were much larger dangers out there that deserved our attention. And WMD's were quite obviously not the real reason for the war. People who didn't see that were duped. What was the "real" reason then? Oil? I dont think so.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 08:59 PM) Anybody like to support this idea? I come from this generation thats supposed to like this poo and its absolute garbage. Lets see here. Lack of imagination in the lyrics? Check "Artists" who brag about what thugs they are? Check Lyrics that glorify the worst of human behavior including drug use, murder, prostitution, abuse of women? Check. Yeah. Rap f***ing sucks.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) President Bush has presided over a cut in the Pell Grant program and in his new budget seeks to slash it further. Medicare Part D is a disaster and is a handout to prescription drug companies and will ultimately cost Seniors more than before. In his new budget, the President proposes cutting 41 billion dollars out of Medicare and Medicaid. President Bush tried to destroy Social Security. Or was 2005 a blur to you? Anything that makes that socialist ponzi scam (SS) less so is "destroying it" to your side. The "cuts" to Medicare and Medicaid are actually reductions in the rate of increase.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) So how are we supporting the islamic terrorist cause? oh yea, we have stopped funding Isreal and acknowledge Hamas. also, i didn't know George Bush was president of Spain, Bali, Pakistan... lol at trying to blame terrorist acts in other countries on G.W Bush. I bet he was behind terrorists shooting up those schools in Russia too. Haven't you heard? George W. Bush is responsible for everything evil that ever happened anywhere in the world.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 05:14 PM) Saddam was such a nice guy to fully comply with everything. He was a saint and did everything that was asked of him. At least, that is what your research always tells you. :rolly Or anyone else who opposed the war.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:52 PM) Yeah and it took 8 years between WTC I and WTC II. And oh yeah, let the revisionist history begin -- Clinton did stop a little thing called Project Bojinka (http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/dia-bojinka.htm) That was weak. Even for you.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:49 PM) Here's hypocracy from the GOP: Alan Keyes criticizes Hillary Clinton for moving from Arkansas to new York to run for senator, yet this dude moved from Matyland. For those of you who don't know, this is the guy who ran against Obama. He's a nut. He wanted to combine church and state. He also kicked his daughter out of the house and refused to pay for her college, b/c she's a lesbian. Funny thing though, she got a full-scholarship after that. She told the univeristy she couldn't go anymore b/c her father refused to pay for college, b/c she said she's a lesbian. The college said, no, you're staying, we're giving you a full scholarship. Alan Keyes!? Even I think that guy is a whacko.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:40 PM) Here's a good example of hypocricy. Talking a big game about fighting terrorism and doing whatever it takes and then calling off your troops when Bin Laden is cornered. Instead these tools decide to use the Afghan fighters to do the job. Whatever it takes....heh. What has Al Qaeda done since 9-11? Aside from making blustery video tapes they've done a lot of running away, hiding, bleeding and dying. Bush has done more to fight terrorism in 5 minutes than all other Presidents, save Reagan, combined. I dont want to hear it.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) Spite is a great reason to support someone in politics. One of many reasons I support Bush.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:35 PM) I think the hypocrisy is when the same Danish newspaper refused to print "offensive" Jesus cartoons. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060208/wl_nm/...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/st...1703501,00.html If you're going to pick on religions, do it for all of them, dammit. Doesn't justify the riots in any respect and those rioting are a bunch of asshats -- but it does paint the magazine that published the photos in a different light. If thats all true then the Danish papers get to be painted with the same hypocrite brush.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 07:33 PM) Why do you keep dissing G.W.? He hasn't even finished his 2nd term. He might do 1 good thing before it's all said and done. The more you leftists hate Dubya the more I like him.

You people expect anything less from the home of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy? :rolly

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/08/cli...s.ap/index.html I just love it when Democrats use the word "fear" when they go on, day after day, saying the following: -President Bush is going to take away your student loans and your kids wont be able to go to college -President Bush is going to take away your Medicare -President Bush is trying to destroy Social Security HYPOCRITES!!!!

Rex. The f***ing New York Times ran a picture TODAY ( Thats February 8th 2006 ) in the arts section of their leftist rag of Mary, mother of Christ, covered in dung with pornographic images around her. f*** these hypocrites.

One thing that just blows my mind here is the fact that Jimmy Carter, of all people, was taking cheap shots at Bush. Who the f*** is Mr. Malaise to talk about anybody? He is THE WORST President who ever took up residence in the White House. Go work on the drywall at one of those houses you like to build and leave being President to someone who actually knows how. f*** you Carter!

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 08:39 AM) News organizations choosing not to air something of their own volition is, in my opinion, freedom of the press. And airing the Book of Daniel, is not the same as airing something in the NBC Nightly News. For one thing, people watch the news. Now its freedom of the press. Thats a total cop out if I ever heard one. Anti-Christian is a better way to look at it and Hypocrasy is the optimal word to use here.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 09:57 AM) He would have been crucified in the media using that excuse. I can see the headlines now ... Cowardly Bush Skips King Funeral How bout the "Bush and dad dont feel like listening to a bunch of assholes use a funeral of a great American as an excuse to talk bad about them" excuse?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 12:17 AM) Um, there are plenty of people in basically the same place where Bush was in 1998. The smart money right now in insider circles seems to be on former Virginia Governor George Allen, depending on who all actually winds up in the race. I can see the Republicans running a Christian Conservative as a VP to give them part of what they want but a moderate with star power like McCain would be the best thing for them at the top of the ticket.