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QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 08:00 PM) Oh Nuke, I hope the US military doesn't think like you on this subject. Cause then it would be reasonable to think that the US military actually did attack Al-Jazeera on purpose. http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-01/ I beg you to check out the documentary called Control Room. I doubt any tears were shed over that among the military. LOL on the mouthpiece for America. Seems that they cant get any love from anybody these days.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 07:41 PM) Because if you're trying to get a lot of people into this country...if just 1 of them is on some sort of watch list for whatever reason (or even if they just get detained for looking suspicious), that can be all it takes to unravel a plot. If 1 person had asked 1 more question about the guys in San Diego who's roommate was an FBI informant, or if 1 more person had talked to 1 more agent about those flight schools, september 11th wouldn't have happened. We were right on the edge of breaking that plot, but we never put a strong enough focus on all the chatter we were receiving. If it only takes 1 person to break up a plot, then you need to make sure that no one is caught until it is too late. And that means you don't risk putting yourselves into the hands of the authorities. Especially if you're carrying something, like a lot of cash or explosives or other weaponry. The FBI totally blew it on 9-11. They had an agent who was all over those guys and they ignored her and threatened to fire her if she kept on pushing it. Those of you who want to blame the government for letting it happen need look no further than right there.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) The goperhead is getting 32 in a secretary's car and the liberal wuss is getting 10 in a man's truck. What's this world coming to? Get a man's car I thought about getting an Expedition but 2.25 a gallon gas made me think again.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 07:01 PM) Yes, they didn't actually reduce the imminent danger pay due to an assload of public outcry -- but the Pentagon actually brought up the idea of decreasing these pay amounts as a way to save money. And the discussion of medical care -- just because it is very good doesn't mean that these problems could not be better addressed. Again. You're taking the pay issue out of context. Under current rules there are soldiers recieving danger pay who are in no danger whatsoever. Making danger pay commensurate with the level of actual danger is a laudable goal because it would allow those taking all the risks to be rewarded more than those who don't. I dont disagree that there are problems with military medical care but the care these guys get is second to none and when you look at how many soldiers are surviving wounds that would have killed them in wars past and how many are recovering from wounds that would have been permanent in wars past the criticism sounds increasingly petty.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:42 PM) I guess it could be considered a form of protest, whatever, I'm probably too hard on them. But my original point has to do with the whole al-jazeera thing. They'd like to lump everyone into the good or the bad. To label al-jazeera as the enemy is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure its main criticism has been it's to nice to Israel. On this point they probably really have no idea how middle east works, but I won't pretend to understand the whole situation either. Al Jazerra is little more than a mouthpiece for Al Quada thinly veiled as a legitimate news organization. As such they are indeed the enemy.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 05:11 PM) I'm still waiting for Nuke's take on what I wrote. Thanks for the kind words, everybody. It is some fun community free lance work and getting paid for what I normally ramble on about here is priceless. Unfortunately while it was a well written column there are several innaccuracies. -Danger/Hazardous fire pay actually was INCREASED as was family separation pay. Additionally during the Bush years basic military pay has risen faster than at any time since the draft was abolished back in 1973. Donald Rumsfeld initiated a total review of the way military pay was parceled out. With reference to imminent danger/hostile fire pay as it stands now you have soldiers in places like CENTCOM HQ in Qatar, which is no less safe than any stateside base, recieving the same amount as soldiers patrolling in the Sunni Triangle. This is unfair and indeed is wasteful. What Rumsfeld is seeking to do is to make the level of special pay commensurate with the level of danger present. His critics, latched on to that though as wanting to cut special pays and they had his proposals defeated. As a result of this bulls*** criticism soldiers who are being shot at and dodging roadside bombs every day still recieve the same hazardous pay as those who sit in a HQ building in a completely safe area. -With refernce to medical care for war wounds. The care our wounded recieve is without parallel in our history. The facilities we have in the field are state of the art and the hospitals at Landsthul and Walter Reed are 2 of the finest hospitals in the world. Within a few hours after being wounded in an engagement soldiers are stabilized at a unit in the field then airlifted to Landsthul where they recieve treatment for their injuries. The speed at which these guys are being taken care of was totally unheard of in wars past and lives are being saved as a result. -I acknowlege that there have been problems getting equipment to the troops in the field but since the War on Terror began the military has decreased the amount of time that new equipment takes to get from the drawing board to the battlefield by some 75% under its rapid fielding initiative. Despite some logistical problems we're still, by far and away, the best equipped military in history and we have far fewer casualties than we would have had as a result. As a result of the last 2 points I made many many lives have been saved in this war that would have been lost in wars past.

I drive a red '04 Dodge Stratus pretty much exactly as this pic copied off the Dodge website shows. Looks cool as hell and gets good mileage too (32 HWY) so I'm pretty happy with it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 04:58 PM) The problem is that right now our southern border is a gaping hole, and if someone tried to cross it, there's no reason to assume that the security apparatus which lets 3 million people cross per year will be able to stop a particular few who really are threatening. Why is it a gaping hole? Because our government has allowed it to be for decades and continues to do so in order to curry favor with the latino vote. This "bunch of yokels", as Kip so eloquently put it, has been quite sucessful in drawing attention to this problem and as a result the government has started putting a lot more resources into border enforcement. Is it enough, no, but its a start.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) I'd agree that they don't have a life if they were spending as much time of their lives protesting which I doubt many of them are. Protesting at organized meetings for what you believe in, to me, would be much more of a service to your country than these wanna be patriots who obviously have no idea of the way the world works. Of course we probably don't have lives, seeing as all the time we waste here on soxtalk If you're thinking that these people spent that entire month every day out there on the border you're mistaken. These people all have jobs and went out there in their spare time on a day off or a weekend or something. A small minority of those who took part were actually out there the whole time and they were retirees. You're a hypocrite BTW. The minuteman program is a form of protest. A protest against a non-existent border enforcement policy of this government. Why do they have no idea about the way the world works? Because they protest for a right wing cause? You show your ignorance by such statements.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) The minutemen are idiots, the lowest common denominator with no lives, pretending to be some kind of patriots as opposed to those actually doing something for the economy or have real professional jobs like border patrol, army, people in medical occupations. Sitting on a lawn chair with walkie talkies, get a life!!!! Even if that were true, which it isin't, they'd be a lot like the thousands of assholes on the looney left who have nothing better to do than protest President Bush and his policies. Walking down a street waving a sign in the air. GET A LIFE!!!!!

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 07:13 AM) He would be good. Steve Stone will never have a job on a widely followed show like SC or BBTN. Why? Because he tells it like it is and wont blindly plug the east coast teams or any of the other favored few teams in MLB. It's sad but true.

RIP EM!!!!!!

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:31 PM) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4639827.stm I'm glad such intelligent people are protecting the borders. Those "intelligent" people care far more about the security of our borders than our government does. You can sit there and make fun of them all you want to but if Canada was overrun with illegals and your government didn't care then you'd be wanting a similar group to step up and do something about it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) I'll be shocked and amazed if that happens. Absolutely stunned. Hell, I'll be stunned if the nominee can even remotely be called a "moderate". It makes perfect sense that Bush replace a conservative judge with a conservative judge. He'll do the same when the chief justice finally retires as well.

QUOTE(Iguana @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 06:19 AM) Hell, even Viz the gas can pitched decent last night. Gave up a lot of hits but didnt give up a run. Between Viz and Shingo they have both made a full 180 and have really become outstanding relievers as of late. Hopefull they can keep it going cause we're gonna need all the arms we can get come Sep, Oct.

QUOTE(Adam G @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 08:24 AM) My damn secretary keeps sending me Cubs propoganda and jokes making fun of the Sox, I need to return fire. Ask her what Jon Garland and Dontrelle Willis both have in common. If she even knows who they are she will be pissed when you tell her the answer.

QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) I think Anaheim has an edge over us, if not Boston also. One of those two will eliminate us should we make it to the postseason, baring a move by Kenny. Bulls***.

BROOMS b****ES!!!! SWEPT THOSE COCKY COCK SUCKERS OUT OF THEIR OWN HOUSE. EAT s*** TIGERS!!!!!

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 11:44 PM) Frank Thomas will be the next. Defenitely. I can't think of any other former Sox players that deserve that honor that don't already have it.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) Brandon will get his first ML win tonite. I'll stake my reputation on it. I guess I don't have much to lose. I just have a hunch about tonight is all. BMAC had a nice outing tonight but...........YOU'RE STILL f***ED. HAHAHA

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 09:48 PM) BTW, was anything definate said about Hermy and an official start date of bereavement leave? I had the Tigers mlb.tv telecast, and SnR for play by play. "That beer is toight! toight!" f***ing Gweido. Guido is a good buddy of mine and he can drink anyone under the table........BAR NONE.

Thats what I love about this team. Every day somebody different steps up and gets the job done. You can't go wrong like that.

EAT s*** TIGERS. YOU CAN'T TOUCH US YOU WHORES!!! THANK YOU FRANK FOR FINALLY FINISHING OFF THIS MARATHON! GUTSY OUTING BY SHINGO EVEN THOUGH HE WAS LEFT IN THERE WAY TOO LONG. GIMMIE A HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) Nuke, if you start the winner thread early tonight. :fyou LOL Trust me I wont. LOL!

FRANK IS THE f***ING MAN!!!!!!!!!!