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Yeah - this seems like a stellar hire for USC. Was it money that made Riley leave or more of like an ego thing so he can go build his own program vs inheriting Stoops?

Is it me or is the Bulls schedule brutal early in season. Looking forward next two weeks almost all real quality teams. Or maybe it is just a sign of the nba today with a ton of teams trying.

Heat couldn’t miss a three late…bulls were very unlike themselves in turnover front and Vuc was straight trash late in the game (and throughout the game). Meanwhile Bulls missed a ton of open looks throughout. The Pacers and Rockets games were brutal though.

I can’t comment on the return - but I really thought Frazier was a perfect buy low candidate. Sox must have a plan but right now they have been out / not got done a few deals that I would have liked - most notably this deal and/or the Marte deal. Quite frankly I loved Marte - his athleticism and defend in RF would have been perfect and if Robert goes down he gives you good depth in CF to go with Engel. Tired of Sox defense being so bad in certain spots and getting Frazier and Marte would have been stellar - giving lefty bat in Frazier, a ton of versatility in both, and just two flat out quality ball players. I also thought the Matz contract was damn reasonable - especially if you could move Keuchel in a Kimbrel deal.

I will take my chances with Harbaugh. I have heard of worse ideas and I still think he is a good coach. Would he leave after he finally beat OSU? Or maybe this was the win he needed to be able to walk away in peace?

In general the refs have been awful in Bulls games - but they need to play on a day in day our basis. Can’t coast cause a team has a bad record.

No - he didn’t say they weren’t firing him. They said the report was not true. There is a difference. He is getting canned (by the end of the year or sometime between now and the end of the year).

Just say no to a college head coach. No no no.

That is fine. Should have done yesterday.

The one thing to remember about Segura, who in isolation is a fine ball player and an upgrade for the team - just a bit pricey for what he brings, is that depth wise Segura is really valuable because if Anderson is hobbled you can than slide Segura over and still have a good starting short stop. Like I said - not the move I would make but it isn’t awful.

I don't know - I can't remember that Cralos Rodon guy ever getting hurt PS: Yes - I really went there and corrected you on spelling hahahaha

That would be okay - I have zero problem sticking with Nagy until the end of the year. Just cause some report is out there that doens't mean you need to change your mind - but you do have to get out in front of a report like this if you are ownership. You either speed up the process (because it was right) or you get out in front and say it is not true and he is our head coach and will be following the Lions game (you dont' need to promise anymore than that). But doing nothing - just classless.

The crazy part is - the silence says it all. This has to be true...but at that point, just get out in front of it and make the move. Everyone in ownership/front office looks awful and they absolutely have to schedule a press conference and move on at this point.

IT is awful. They are treating him terribly. At this point they have to come out tomorrow and end this. It is not fair to treat a guy who is a good all around human, etc. He may not be the best head coach, but quite frankly he wasn't anywhere near the worst in franchise history and the poor guy is in an awful situation. He was super professional in the press conference and is handling this like a professional - despite the Bears handling this like amateur hour. Just an awful look. Either the report is true - at which point - you need to pull him aside and let him know this is it and quite frankly at this point you just need to rip the cord (if the report is true) and make the decision. Or the report is not true and you just say - Matt Nagy is our head football coach. We aren't happy with the results and regularly evaluate the process but there is no truth to the report out there that this is his last game (you don't need to promise his future etc - just state that the report is not true).

Wendell isn't good and he hasn't been good outside of that 5 game stretch right after the trade. Could he get better - sure, but it starts and stops with him. He didn't put in the work and had a lousy attitude on the Bulls - good riddance. Unfortunately there is a stench that came with the last 3 picks from the Gar/Pax era - which was the one thing they did well. But Lauri (he's okay), White (low BBall IQ and very flawed player at this point), and of course Wendell were a series of not so great picks (not saying any of those guys were busts cause they probably all have long careers - but none are impact players on good teams and I would be shocked if any of them ever become that). Best case is a good 4th option (Lauri), a solid rotational big (WCJ), or a microwave type bench scorer (White). White seems to have an incredibly good work ethic and personality though - so I am excited to see how he does surrounded by a nucleus of better players, once he truly can get acclimated. He was put in the absolute worse spot the past 2 years.

Very true - it was why I love the Rodon QO or Rodon 3 to 4 year deal at reasonable price (that got Rodon the security he desired but had a fair risk / reward for the franchise). Either options for Rodon seemed great. 1 year deal - if he pitches like he previously did great and he moves on a year from now. If he doesn't, you took a shot at someone you know can be an ace but you move on next year / have flexibility to take on a longer term deal at the deadline because all you risked was 1 year. If you went multi-year, you feel like if Rodon really is healthy - you got something cause a healthy Rodon may not replicate last year's numbers but more often than not he's going to be pretty good. Hard not to be with that sort of stuff.

Ray has a much longer track record of pitching high quality innings vs. Rodon. He also has had injuries, etc. But Ray is pretty good - although I do agree durability concerns. Still he has been a 150-175 inning pitcher for most of his career and obviously had a stellar 21 campaign. He also is absurd at striking guys out. He has 3 straight pretty good years of durability - with 175 innings in 2019, 50 innings in 20 (COVID) and than 190+ this past year. His COVID year was obviously not that great though - production wise, but 2018, 2019, & 2021 were all pretty damn good years. If I recall Sox have always liked Ray as well and made a push for him previously (or am I misremembering that)?

I am thinking they will get Matz and than Scherzer and if not Scherzer will try for Rodon and others. I expect them to land 3 big name free agent starting pitchers.

It is why those that say we can't possibly keep Burger, Sheets, Eloy and Vaughn. I say - forget it, injuries will happen, someone will not pan out, and you want to keep guys fresh and rested. I see no reason to force a trade for any of them and instead enjoy the value and depth that we have in those 4 individuals. If one of them had elite value in a trade - than I would certainly consider it, but it feels like anyone acquiring those guys is going to get more value in the long run than the Sox get. Depth is a good thing - especially depth that can hit and I think all of those guys can do that. It does mean the rest of our outfielders/bench players need to be highly athletic though

This is true. I don't know him enough to have a strong feeling - but I won't complain about investing money in a guy that has the stuff to be a pretty darn good set-up guy. The little snap shot from the video Tony posted earlier was nasty. I'm hoping Sox come in close to $185-195M payroll anyway (cause why not - not my money and maybe JR surprises us). My issue is when the Sox play cheap on other areas - where I think the money might for further. But I can't make that decision yet.

Probably, but with the way the Sox spend on the pen, you never know. At least it seems like he has electric stuff.

Maybe they just plan on replacing Kimbrel with Tepera and Graveman - so 2 set-up type guys for price of one closer who sucks as a set-up man? Still TONS of money to the bullpen. I will say I like fact that he is a groundball pitcher. He wasn't great in his stint with Houston (when he moved out of the cavernous safeco park).

I am not familiar enough with Graveman to comment but seems like a lot of years and guaranteed money for someone who has had 1 good (okay amazing) year out of the pen in his entire career. It is puzzling how much money is tied up to the pen at this point.

I see why he was hired. I honestly think he has many many successful attributes of a head coach. The one thing he doesn't know how to do - and I think it is because he didn't have enough experience on this end, is how to adjust through failures and continue to build and refine the offense. He sticks too much to his system, which wasn't his, and had a great HC to be able to lean on. It really is the offensive shortcomings that got in the way. If he had a highly talented offensive assistant he handed the reigns to - I legit think he would have been a very good head coach. Of course, the problem with this was, he was brought in to be an offensive guru. I do think Nagy will eventually go back to being a very strong assistant.

Giants get rid of Jason Garret. I will say - Nagy, to no surprise, handled the situation pretty well and with a high degree of professionalism.