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QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 01:10 PM) Okay, then, followup question: Which do you feel is more of an organizational need given the current farm system, draft picks, and ML team? A front of the rotation pitcher is a big need but so is an athletic outfielder. Since prep outfielders have a high probability of striking (albeit lower) and the fact that Goodwin is the better talent, I'll still say it is a bigger need. Either way these guys are 3-5 years away from contributing.

22nd round selection, Zach Davidson, was a finalist for the Brooks Wallace Award, which goes out to the nations finest collegiate shortstop. Hits for average and played good defense in college. Below is a link to some video of him hitting a double off a 94MPH fastball. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=...ASQQndMFl-9QHSw College Profile: http://www.davidsonwildcats.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=130

Some info I saw on Stephen Sauer while digging through our current year selections: Sauer has been pitching great in his first full season. He got a 72K bonus last year as our 10th round selection.

Heres the details on our 21st round selection, Jared McDonald. He was drafted previously by the Chicago Cubs (out of JC). It should be noted that he did end up going to Arizona State. Sounds like a solid pickup and he's another guy we'll be able to watch in the college world series. Below is a link to his player profile: http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-base...ld_jared00.html

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 12:26 PM) Directed at someone with a lot of knowledge of the farm and such: if you had to choose one of Williams and Goodwin to sign, which would you pick? Goodwin. Williams will be a bit easier sign, however, both will take at 300K and my guess is you'd have to go close to a M to get Goodwin to sign.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 12:19 PM) Why wasn't he eligible last year? He wasn't a draft eligible sophmore, usually (unless you are old for your level) you aren't eligible at a four year college until your junior season. Juco players can be drafted at any time. BA on our 8th round pick

QUOTE (daa84 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 12:12 PM) Lefthander Nate Reed emerged as Pennsylvania's top prep prospect heading into the 2006 draft thanks largely to his arm strength and projection. But as one scout put it, he's been Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in three years at Pittsburgh, and he was wildly inconsistent as a junior this spring, going 4-6, 6.21. On good days, Reed pitches downhill with an 89-92 mph fastball, flashes an average curveball and shows feel for a changeup. Other times, he works in the 86-88 range with a below-average curveball and struggles to get hitters out. As a 6-foot-3, 180-pound lefthander with arm strength, Reed could be drafted in the 10-to-12-round range, or he could slip and return to Pitt for his senior year. He profiles as a reliever in pro ball. This is a good value pick. If he would have been eligible to go last year, he would have went in the top 10 rounds but he had a lot of command issues this past season and dropped. Good arm for a lefty, solid secondary stuff. Nice value righ there.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 12:11 PM) Sox pick LHP Nathan Reed from Pitt (JR) He's been a 3 year starter which is pretty sweet.

My first look might have been wrong. Shoemaker is apparently a very good hitter. Not the greatest defensive tools though so he'll have to hit the hell out of the ball.

Shoemaker is a senior outfielder that looks more like an organizationl type of guy.

Thompson has to sign, otherwise that is a bad pick cause there was a lot of talent there. You don't take guys that early without the intent to sign em. The later picks you can take your chance on and hope to hit on em. Considering they went cheap most places in the draft, they better sign Thompson and than one of Bane/Goodwin. If they can sign both, phenomenal. Another Indiana State guy for the Sox, Brady Shoemaker, OF. HeGawn, looking your direction again.

Sox picked RHP Phillip Negus from Wake Forest. Out of high school he was a top 300 prep per BA. Below is a writeup on him from 2005 (High School). He was considered a very good pitcher and was said to have a live arm. Not sure what his current FB velocity is, but he was rated as having the best changeup on the Wake Forest Deamon Deacons by Alan Simpson (Perfect Game).

Heres some info on Goodwin, a UNC committ, and a top 100 prospect. Oh and he was North Carolinas High School Baseball Player of the Year

Info on our 15th round prospect, Wagner, 2B, Belmont. http://belmontbruins.cstv.com/sports/m-bas...r_daniel00.html Pretty much sounds like the typical late round college pick. Solid player, maybe has the upside of a utility guy. More likely turns into an organizational guy.

A boras client too. What are the odds that this works out.

Oh f*** yes. f*** yes. I hope we plan on buying some of these guys. If we hit on a few of them, wowzers.

More on Dane Williams: Video (Wait till the end of the video): http://video.aol.com/video-detail/insider-...ller/1716227327

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 11:29 AM) Yeah, I get that. But at this point (after the 10th round), nobody cares who we draft. I sure as hell won't be yelling at the computer screen b/c of who we draft in the 13th round b/c I don't know who anyone is that's left in the draft. That passed long ago. I'd say people have a legitimate reason to be disappointed if we overdrafted guys in the early rounds (e.g. Anything before round 10). No, we don't have unlimited funds, but Thompson isn't a guy that's gonna get a $1M signing bonus. That's the kind of guy I wanted to see us take in the 4th-7th rounds. We didn't spend s*** this past offseason and are about to unload a ton of money this coming offseason. I think we could have afforded taking a guy like Scheppers, Bailey, etc and given them the money they want to sign. That's how you build a legit minor league system; not by overdrafting guys and taking average players. That's what the Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, Yankees do and that's why they always have highly ranked systems and even if they don't seem like they're gonna fit in, then you can trade them b/c of their pedigree and usually can something pretty good in return. While we don't dominate a big market like those teams, I don't believe for 1 second we don't have the money to spend on these young guys. We may be Chicago's 2nd team, but we're still in better shape than a lot of teams like the Royals, who did go out and take some big money signs in Crow and Myers. Those two players' signing bonuses combined will be more than we spend on our first 5 picks. If they can do it, so can we. Just to point out, but Thompson is going to take a 6 figure bonus to sign. He was pretty much our only above slot selection (in terms of what it'll take to get him to go pro) of the first 7 or so rounds. We might have taken two-four guys today that would take above slot to sign, Dane being one of them. The others are Buch, Jones, and Ballinger. Jones because of a strong commit, Ballinger because he's a draft eligible sophmore with a chance to really improve his stock. I put Buch on the list, but he's a small college kid so I'd be surprised if it took above slot to get him to sign, despite the fact that he went far lower in the draft than expected. Either way I am a fan of all of the above selections.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 11:26 AM) Dane reached 91 MPH on the scouting video, but also looks like he uses more arm than legs. Re-work his motion to use more legs, and let him develop, probably throw harder. Other report has him higher which is good. Definitely a tough sign, but I like the value here and the risk. Show him the $$. More on Dane It should be noted that this write-up was based upon his first non-rehab appearance.

Great selection. Hopefully we can get him sign. YOu sign him and the draft looks a lot better. Offer him low to mid 6 figures and see if he bites.

Bayne, RHP, Concordia (D3 I believe). School is actually located in Irvine where I live and is a christian private college that has a very good baseball program. He was a two way player in JC's. Was a 2007 selection of the Cincinatti Reds. Also the same JC that CJ Retherford (Sox farmhand) played for. One of the top Hawaiin Prospects out of high school, although that doesn't say a lot. Also, PG had him as the best out of state native hawaiin available in the draft.

Not bad, plus at this point, stuff is what it is. Seems to have a nice eye, maybe he pans out in the professional ranks.

Colligan doesn't sound bad. He's got some power potential and solid speed. Below are some excerts from an article I found His college page: http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-bas...gan_kyle00.html He was heavily recruited out of high school. Chose the Aggies over Baylor and Notre Dame and would have been drafted last year but told teams he had zero interest in signing and wanted to come back for his senior year and get his degree. Batted leadoff for A&M.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 11:06 AM) From BA on the 11th round pick... Good pick, he probably goes earlier in the draft a year from now. Hopefully we can get him inked.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) Well I would for sure help you out in anyway possible, but those guys do not think so fond of me after I decided to quit, so an interview would probably be out of the question. I'll be able to put together a little scouting report after I get off work, but he's the definition of a baseball grinder. Haha, I guess we'll take care of a potential interview, you take care of the scouting report.