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When I worked for the airline I worked for, I rode in the cockpit on several flights. That gives you a whole different perspective on a jumbo-jet, let me tell you. You see things you wish you didn't see... .

http://biz.yahoo.com/cbsm/070301/1c4cb3d3d...233e824128.html Oh no... a Cubs fan wrote this.

Monday and Wednesday nights are pretty tough for me, other then that I hope to make it.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 01:09 PM) If its no big deal and alright to send him to the mound with, why was Herm called to the mound, and Jenks lifted after 10 pitches? The other problem with having him pitch with shoulder tightness is he will compensate and may put more stress on the screw in his elbow. Because it's spring training and you don't take a chance?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 01:42 AM) OH COME ON NANCY NOW THAT'S B.S. Ok, wow. So much for ending corruption and all that crap. They really are just as bad as the Republicans. Seriously, it doesn't matter which party gets elected, all they do is protect their own interests. OUR GOVERNMENT SUCKS!

LMFAO! You could see the direction this thread was taking a long time ago, which is why it got pointless in a hurry. There will be research up the ass to make sure that AlGoracle is protected and righteous, and ZERO on anyone else that might be "environmental" of another political persuasion. Of course... it's always different (southsider ™ ). Most of us even said that WE OURSELVES try to be conscious of it, and that even got turned around. Dodge, deflect, and leave. Hmmm, just like an Iraq plan.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 10:31 PM) Perhaps you should read earlier posts in this thread that explain what is really going on. And when did saving the Earth become a liberal idea? I figured everyone would be interested in saving it. BS, you'll appreciate this... You damn hippee! On this point, you're right, and that is getting missed in all the hypocracy talk. We do all need to be aware of it, but the point still is Al Gore is a hypocrite.

It's insane to think that guy has this money to throw around... this is his play money.

It's pretty funny that no one was even saying that - but it sure does make for a nice circle-jerk of an argument.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 01:38 AM) How dare you. don't you know they are just trying to inform all of us commoners of this most important message? their job is done, they have earned the right to burn tons of fossils fuels. I wonder how much fossil fuel was burnt making the movie?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 01:10 AM) SF and SA: My shoulder is back at full strength from conditioning. I'm more than good to go. Just like with my baseball season this year. I do request that you decline from the shameless and unwarranted criticisms of my abilities which far exceed those of you both at any time at any place. ...ya pansies! Hey GP, I should PM ya, but I'll ask here anyway, since you brought it up. You're back to being able to pitch this spring?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:04 AM) So, here be the question: did the entire world think that China could keep chugging along at 10% growth for the infinite future? Those of us that know anything, no... but we (the "free market" economies) are seeing to it that they have inflationary pressures, let's put it that way.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 10:44 PM) He'll have the masturbator working that day. I guarantee it. You sick bastard.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 09:53 PM) I agree that happens way too often. But here is a question then... given that guarantees them a life of struggle and mediocrity... why do people do it? Are they just lazy? Or are they so convinced they'll never get out that they don't try? I don't have a specific answer in mind. Just curious about people's theories. Depends on the person and the personality. Some people just accept their circumstances. Others won't let it get them.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 10:02 PM) Wurd. Like Herm Schneider telling Bobby Jenks he should lose some weight. Al LMAO. Ok, that was good. Al Gore. FlaSoxxJim. (now you're keeping some company).

There's a hell of a lot of people who choose to stay in those circumstances, and then also choose to complain about it. That's the saddest part of all.

It's amazing how quick this became a circular argument. Again, Al Gore. How DARE anyone question his righteous concerns!! He's JUST the messenger! Shhhhhhhhhhhh! And Tex, I wouldn't listen to a 300 lb. doctor telling me I had to lose weight, etc. because he IS a damn hypocrite. That's exactly why you don't see doctors like that. Al Gore. Al Gore. Al Gore. I'm brainwashed now.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 07:36 PM) I certainly appreciate all of those sentiments, but I nonetheless put a lot of stock into what Hersh puts into print. Maybe it's primarily because I always see the White House spokespeople being very quick to respond/deny/discredit his pieces, not just ignoring them as they do so many other "fringe" journalists. That does indeed have to make one wonder, doesn't it? However, I certainly don't think Iran is next on the hit list, because right now, candidly, it's beyond our reach.

Al Gore. I'm done.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 02:08 PM) I agree with everything Balta mentions and add a couple things. You are talking about inner city high rise living, there are way more poor families living in the far rural areas. Appalachia still suffers from some of the worst poverty in our country, but they are cut off and rural and we don't think of them. Would we be taking these kids as well? Institutionalizing kids just consolidates the problem and hides it. I agree that the present system is poor. I think we need to find ways to strengthen the family unit, not break it up. The family unit has been a cornerstone of civilization for ever. It is proven to work and is the cheapest option. I think decentralizing and offering more mixed housing makes the most sense. We need to focus on this generation of kids and find some way to break this cycle. I wouldn't invest much effort in trying to fix the second generation public aid adults. We've already screwed their lives with the present system. I know Appalachia very well. It's where my dad is from. Guess what? He did what he could to escape it. Oh by the way, I would make the argument that Indiana suffers from some of those same economic hardships, at least where my parents are. Unemployment runs rampant, jobs are scarce, etc. I left because I saw it coming 15 years ago. That's what an education did for me. So, how do we educate folks to further themselves to make a difference?

You see, though, no where in here do you see what *I* am doing to try to help the environment, yet, to Al Gore and the liberals, it's "not enough" because I drive an SUV. I recycle (my recycle bin is chuck full every single week), I use those new little lights as my old ones burn out, I take care of my vehicles to make sure they are as efficient as possible. I don't take private jets everywhere, I jump on the big bus in the sky when I need to get somewhere. Is it enough? I'm not judging anyone else, like Al Gore is by telling us "An Inconveinient Truth".

I know that this is a little "disjointed" but in some areas, this was a good discussion. Except Tex and his "F the GOP" ... Just kidding. Anyway, where I get a little ruffled is when I have these people telling me everything I do is "bad" for the environment, and yet, they do the same things and even on a much larger scale. What I choose to do is different then me standing up on stages all over the world telling people what they shouldn't be doing.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) Why does someone have to be at the extremes to have the moral authority to preach about a topic? Anyone short of Mother Theresa STFU about poverty, unless you have multiple PhDs STFU about education? With the environment, we will never have everyone living in a yurt and riding bicycles. I don't want to take away the big car and ski boat from some guy who worked hard all his life to achieve that dream. But let's work to make that boat a little more fuel efficient and quiet. Let's make that car a little more space and fuel efficient. If I can learn to live with my house cooled to 78 instead of 72, I've helped. Why should I be called a hypocrite by someone who leaves their temp at 82? And OK, for the sake of argument, Al's a hypocrite and terrible for the environment. Is his message inaccurate? Should we follow his example to ruin or his message to a better environment? You know why? Because Al Gore himself HAS been called the moral authority on this subject for years now by the likes of many even on this board. We then proceed to hear about how wrong we are, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. and then he flies his private jets all over the world as well as having a home that contributes to emitting more greenhouse gases then most of us will ever emit from our own homes, "green house" or not. Then, we get the defense that he is purchasing "carbon credits" ... again, comparable to "buying (his) way into heaven" if you take the hyperbole. It's ridiculous.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 12:25 PM) And the other side of that is, who out of all of us is doing better at managing our own carbon footprints? If we all thought about it and tried to take care of our own stewardship shortcomings we'd be in much better shape as a whole. The whole point is he is a hypocritical douche, and he's getting defended by the likes of you people. Carbon Credits is just a program to make him feel better about leading to HIS so called destruction of the earth - again, HIS definition, not mine. Do I care what he does in his own house? Nope, until he tells me what I'm doing in my house is destroying the earth and he does the same damn thing.

Is this sort of like buying your way into heaven? (ok, that was tacky, but the point remains).