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Don't reach; take one of the pitchers.

Not difficult at all - do not draft him. Whether he should be allowed in MLB or another team should draft him is another question. But as for the Sox: do not draft.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 11, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Moustakas just hit his 16th homer, fwiw. That said, Frazier will have a significantly lower asking price...who else needs a 3B right now? Either one of those guys would fit well in Boston. Sandoval only at 616 ops. Obviously Todd can DH and play 1b as well. I'm hoping the Royals hesitate for another month before moving into the sell mode (and obviously that the Sox act aggressively in that time). The Royals have players that would compete with both Frazier and Robertson on the trade market.

Just don't see teams willing to pay a top of the rotation price for Q at this point. I also don't see the Sox accepting anything less. Trading for a guy having a good year on a 1 year contract is probably a more sound investment for a contender.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 11, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) How many games are the Sox going to lose outhitting their opponents this year, 40? Due to 29th in walks, 29th in doubles, 23rd in homers. Ranked high in triples, but no team hits many of those anyway.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 10:33 PM) Takes two teams to make a deal. And there are teams that will need him. The challenge is that it looks like there will be may be 10 buyers and 20 sellers this year.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Nice article by ESPN on best players from each draft slot since it started in 1965. They based everything on WAR. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1955342...every-spot-1-30 McCutcheon, Scherzer & G Springer best at #11. Sale best ever at #13. 2nd best pick at #16 is....Brett Lawrie. My thoughts are that you really need a top 3 pick to have a chance at a superstar and a top 15 pick to really even have a chance at anything more than a crapshoot. Shows how much talent there is outside the first round ( some of those slots were mighty thin, as you pointed out). it's a crapshoot but some shoot (evaluate talent) better than others.

Another value outing for Robertson. I really don't know what more he needs to showcase. He can pitch the ninth, he can pitch multiple innings (the need for which is in vogue these days), and he already pitched effectively 3 days in a row. The demand may increase over the next 6 weeks, but I don't see how he pitches better than he has been.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 07:35 AM) What? They want Engel to get everyday at-bats and he wasn't going to get those with Luery playing well in front of him. That's how I see it....give daily CF work to both Engel and L Garcia and find out if either (or both) is a keeper.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 08:35 AM) Not sure I totally agree with you. I think Sanchez is a keeper but Moncada will eventually push him off 2nd. Maybe he becomes the utility player. But that might mean Leury will not have a role. So I think one of two has a place in the future as a utility player. Davidson has shown a good power bat but his 40%+ SO rate is way too high. Hopefully over the rest of the season that drops. Avi has become a major plus and solves one OF position if he continues. Anderson's bat is much better than last year so that is a positive. I did say IF. And IF the talent is abundant, it will sort itself out. If Yolmer keeps this up, perhaps it will be Moncada who needs to move - to the outfield. Anyway, the chances of any individual Sanchez, L Garcia et al sticking is greater than the chances of most individual prospects (with the inherent flame out rate of prospects) becoming contributors; none were expected, so it's all a plus.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) The whole point of the thread is not to go for it but that our rebuild is super far along, which is super enviable. Good players are about to come up from AAA. Celebrate! The Sox have traded 3 players; the tear-down hasn't even finished. The one area in which the rebuild is ahead of schedule is if Sanchez, Davidson and L Garcia are keepers....certainly so far so good, and their performance would fit on a competitive team.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 01:23 PM) Just sayin... 7-15 outside the division. 12-17 on the road. 15 of the next 19 games are on the road. Probably will be good and buried by the break. And 8-18 against teams with winning records.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) I think we all know that there will be trades but there are players we still have control and a couple we might even consider extending a year or two until our minor league prospects are ready. There's no need or benefit to a complete tanking The only veterans in contract years who are contributing and perhaps worth extending are Gonzales and Holland because the young pitching is neither ready not particularly deep. But those 2 might also bring something back in trade, so it would make more sense to trade then re-sign if they want them.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) Beck is 18/5 K/BB in 19 innings with a 2.84 ERA and a 17.6 HR/FB%. Sox shining some turds this year. Sure are. Sox were due some good fortune in that department.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 07:59 AM) Not the only concern I'd have. As I said in my post above, the Diamondbacks farm in incredibly thin on talent. Take a look and there just really is not much of anything in their cupboard moving forward. Well some of the Sox 2nd tier pitching might work for them.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) I think you just got to hope Frazier goes on an extended hot streak between now and July 31st. That's it. His OPS is .667; his batting average is .184. He's played 2 games at first base this season...give him some more work there could help some. Decent chance someone will take a flier in an August waiver deal, with the only risk a month or 2 of salary. I guess it could help the Sox recoup some of the money they will have to pay forward on Robertson in order to get good deal for him. Frazier makes $12 million; he will take a big pay cut next season...probably one of those 1 year deals to recoup value.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ May 31, 2017 -> 12:37 AM) Robertson is the only guy listed who has a chance to bring back a top 100 prospect. The rest of those guys have little to no trade value. I agree that Robertson is the only guy with a chance to bring back a top 100; but other guys could bring back prospects with potential who could develop into top 100s. Sox need a lot of those type of prospects too. Holland, Melky, Frazier, Swarzak et al need to be traded.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) This would be a nervy pick, like taking Alec Hansen in the second round last year (he was a likely top-of-draft guy who fell due to performance, not injury), but with the higher risk of taking Kendall at 11 when there are lots of good college bats such as Logan Warmoth still on the board. Except this is taking him with pick 11 instead of 49. Not a ton of premium in there to be squeezed, versus the risk.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2017 -> 04:30 PM) True team effort by the White Sox. Need Jones, Putnam and Petricka back before the bullpen burns out...but only thing to do is enjoy it for now. Where are you going to put them? Nobody in the pen is pitching poorly, although I'm sure they can find room for Jones and probably Putnam. To keep the pen from burning out, the starters need to pitch longer.

QUOTE (ventura_abreu @ May 27, 2017 -> 09:48 AM) The White Sox should start blending in their young pitchers into the bullpen rotation, but they probably should not do it all at once. If by bullpen rotation you mean bullpen, they've been blending young pitchers (or at least inexperienced pitchers) into the bullpen all season.

The major league team is competitive against most teams and interesting to watch. Cheer for them.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 27, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) Lol, don't flatter yourself. I don't respond to you as much as I could, you just get a little more hurt when I point out your contradictions As I pointed out a week ago, you're approaching Wile E Coyote territory with your "gotcha" posts, so keep trying. you haven't found one yet, but not for lack of trying. Follow Dick - he's better at it than you - he actually finds posts where I whiffed (Kahnle, e.g.). I freely admit, as any non-redboarder should - there are many.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 27, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) I must have missed all of the fawning over Davidson while you were complaining about Adam Eaton and saying that he would never get any better I don't pine over your posts, you are contradictory and irritating. Do you think you know more than GM's in the game, and you say it all the time while touting your Ideas as if they are revolutionary. More Saladino amirite Of course you do. You can't get enough of them. And when did Eaton ever need to get better? He was a hit from the start. The only thing I didn't like about him was he clowned a bit much for my tastes. Yea, I suggested trading him, but not because he was a bad player. You have to give something to get something - that's one of my revolutionary ideas. I fawned over the Davidson trade, not Davidson. I'm no scout. I don't know if these prospects are good or bad; I just go by the rankings, and if you trade a replaceable reliever for a top prospect, that's a good thing.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2017 -> 11:19 AM) They should be building the team around Trayce Thompson and his .589 OPS in AAA. It is amazing how wrong he has been but still posts like he knows everything. While I was ripping Kahnle, you were ripping Swarzak. You've also ripped Davdson. While I was asking to play young players, you were demanding more Fraziers. And, yes, I credited Hahn with both the Davdison and Eaton trades, while you redboarded, picking and choosing the ones that worked out well AFTER the fact. I consistently pointed out that his best trades were for young players...and questioned why he didn't do more of it.

Wow! Why not.