@ron883 is still using Abreu being a ghost when the sox were in the thick of the race and he didn't really do shit (until they were mathematically eliminated and then he mashed) under Ventura. The problem with that is, he uses that to define Abreu's entire career of not showing up when he's only had that sample size to really show it. I kinda get where he's coming from, but I need more evidence of it.