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QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) It was great to see new "X-Files" last night. I enjoyed it. It seemed a little rushed to get to the point when the X-Files would be opened again, but with only six episodes, I think they did a good job laying the groundwork. The previews show some intriguing stuff coming up.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) I saw on twitter that Desmond is projected for 3 zWAR next season with 21 homers by the ZIPS projection. Someone had noted the other day that adding Desmond would give the Sox an infield that could easily produce 100 HRs. If he could be added cheap (and I mean CHEAP), he could be worth the lost draft pick.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) dang, it is not going to be enuf, even if the yanks are doing a salary dump. i would hope to give offer EJ, Beck and Davidson.... power hitter in the yanks park, that might be enticing. I don't think anyone would want anything to do with Davidson...but you never know. If he's ever traded, it might be in a package like you suggested. But Johnson and Beck might be too much for Gardner, at least from the perspective of the Sox.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) http://riveraveblues.com/2016/01/recent-fr...gardner-132721/ Article mentions White Sox and if Erik Johnson would be enough for Gardner. If Erik Johnson is enough, I think it would be a good deal. What he's owed over the next couple years would probably be close to what Dexter Fowler would cost. However, I'm not sure the Yankees would think Johnson would be enough.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 02:24 PM) So is the belief that this would only be a 1-year deal? I'd much rather see it be a 2-3 year deal. I agree. If he's going to be relatively cheap, sign him for 2 years with an option for a third.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) Sox are interested. Okay. Thanks. I could like the idea provided he's cheap. And based on what you've been saying, he could be relatively cheap.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) Seems like the Sox are really positioning themselves to beat positional averages. There were three middle infielders in all the AL that hit 20 HRs or more in 2015. If the Sox got 40 from Desmond/Lawrie (very possible if both stay healthy) they would likely have the most thunderous middle infield in the AL. Are you saying the Sox are interested in signing him, or is this more of a what if?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 11:33 AM) Call me crazy but I'm not ready to give up on Avi yet. Cespedes is very inconsistent on offense and may become complacent with a big contract. I would not be surprised at all to see Avi put up numbers similar or better than Cespedes did in 2013 or 2014. Obviously there are still big differences between their defense and base running abilities but if Avi can improve even marginally in both I think he has a shot to be a useful player this year. You're crazy! But seriously, if Garcia ends up being the starting right fielder, he's going to be at a disadvantage with the fans. We (as the fan base) will be expecting him to fail and will probably be extra critical of him because we "could have had Gordon, Cespedes, or Upton". And being extra critical of him wouldn't be fair because it should be the front office we should be criticized. But, we'll also be expecting him to fail because he really hasn't shown that he can tap the purported wealth of talent he has. I'd love to see him succeed, but I think I'd rather see someone else patrolling right field. All of that being said, if the Sox do not sign someone or make a trade, we'll be pissed. And we'll be pissed mainly because we suspected that the Sox were close to getting a better player. We only know what we're told by the media or through a couple of the guys who have sources. Who really knows how serious the Sox are about getting an outfielder.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 08:14 AM) Well, everyone in NY is reporting he's going to be talking to the Mets again today... So we made a three year offer for how much...? $60 million? $55 million? We don't know that the Sox have made a final offer. It was speculation.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) Three year deals are right up our alley, why wouldn't we be all over this!? If he truly would like to return to the Mets, he would likely choose them over the Sox if both teams offered a 3-year deal. Two days ago, I thought the Sox were in the thick of it at least with negotiations. I'd have to think that the Sox might be moving on to other options by now.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 07:05 AM) Full no trade clause. Not sure we'd want him because of how much he's owed, but I wonder if he'd be interested in being traded if the Nationals sign Cespedes.

Nothing really new has come up since it was reported that the Nationals had offered 5/$100 or so. I would think that if talks had been as serious as we were led to believe we night have heard some more chatter. That being said, if the Nationals truly are the only team willing to go 5 years, they might get the deal done after all. The Sox could be (and should be) still working up some creative ways to sign him. I hope this is over one way or the other tonight.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) What? Didn't the Sox trade for Danks from the Rangers? Yes, they did.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) Why? We're all set in the OF.

If Cespedes signs elsewhere, how quickly to Fowler and Jackson sign? I would imagine pretty quickly, and one should end up with the Sox.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) If he signs with the Nats, which fanbase will react worse, Sox or Mets? Mets for sure. If, however, the deal is extremely reasonable, our fan base will explode as well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) I really have the feeling the White Sox are the only serious bidders out there. I keep going back to raBBit's post saying that the talks have been creative and options are the sticking point. Leads me to believe that the Sox are sticking to fewer years (I might believe they'll offer four years), and they are haggling over options for an additional year or two. If the tweet saying the Nationals offer is not good is true, then maybe the Sox truly are the only serious bidders. I just hope this nonsense ends soon...like today.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 07:13 AM) I just have a hard time thinking the sox are a finalist only offering 3 years. I could see the mets because they were just in the World Series. Unless the Sox are offering a 3-year deal with options for more, I would agree that it's looking grim. There was a ton of anticipation yesterday, and I really thought a deal was imminent. Now I'm back to how I felt the day before: It's not likely. Time to move on.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:36 AM) If that's their plan, it's terrible and obviously only a result of missing out on the big name FA. How do you explain that? "We actively tried to upgrade our OF via FA, but only now do we realize the team as constructed can compete." There has to be an OF upgrade, no other choice I agree. By actively looking to upgrade the outfield, the Sox have essentially told the fan base what we already know: Garcia isn't very good. If they go into the season with Garcia as the starting right fielder, and saying that the team can compete as is, what will they be telling the fans? What would they be telling Garcia? There will be a lot of disappointment if the Sox don't make a move.

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Watch him sign with Milwaukee or something random like that. I actually saw a tweet that he was going to play in Japan.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) Nationals official site broadcasting a major announcement tomorrow That looks like a concert announcement...but who knows.

I've been in a meeting all morning just nodding along and saying "sounds good" as I keep hitting refresh. I hope the fact that I have no idea what's going on at work is rewarded with a Cespedes signing.

I'm not going to say that I don't want to see Cespedes on the Sox, but I will say that for the same money (at least over the next two years or so), the Sox could sign two of Desmond, Fowler, Jackson, and a picher (Latos for example). Fowler or Jackson gets you a solid #2 hitter and would be an improvement over Garcia. Desmond could also be a #2 hitter (I'm not as certain there), and he could be an improvement over Saladino, at least with experience. And adding a veteran pitcher on a decent contract certainly couldn't hurt. I don't think that Jackson or Fowler will sign before Cespedes does, though. The waiting game continues.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 10:43 AM) How do we know there are fewer teams? Every time we think this, more teams show up. KC was done with Gordon, Det was too broke to get Cespedes, Miami wasn't supposed to get Chen, Col already had 3 OF'ers & still signed Parra. At this point, narrowing it down to a few teams has proved to be pretty off. Right now, we need to assume the Sox are one of 5-10 teams on him, whether it's logical or not. I suppose we don't know how many teams are in the hunt. My point was that Baltimore and Detroit were two teams that we all were worried about, and they have since signed others. Plus, with the Davis and Upton contracts being long-term, I believe Cespedes is still wanting a longer term deal. If the Mets will truly not go past 3 years, they may be out. If the Sox will go to 4 years AND pay the higher AAV, maybe they are in good shape. Unless Cespedes decides to take a short deal (1 or 2 years), I would think the Sox and Angels may be the true front runners.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 10:38 AM) great post. however lets look at this little correction. ref the bold, this is a big assumption for him to come back to a player he once was. the second one is with ceps is something to be in awe of, if all things goes right. I would think that it would be either LaRoche or Melky in the mix of 3-4-5. I threw LaRoche in there assuming that he'll rebound somewhat. Hell, if LaRoche hits like he used to AND the Sox sign Cespedes, the offense would be very potent.