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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 04:55 AM) Hmmmm, interesting. Tell me more, I love hearing about these things I never said, yet you've somehow gathered. No really, I'd love to hear! It's how you say things. You cherry pick a product, for example, the nano, and try to make it something it wasn't meant to be. The target audience that bought them were primarily gym rats that wanted a super small, light device attached to their arm who didn't really care about a screen since they'd never be looking at it anyway (because they'd be running, or biking), which you continue to press on as a big deal, when it wasn't. As soon as the technology existed to add a screen, without increasing the size of the device...they added it. But here you are, ranting about a product they haven't even sold for over 2 years. At the time they sold these (years ago), if you wanted a screen, all you had to do was get next device up from that, and then you had one. But you're going to drone on about it not having a screen when it's intended audience at the time didn't really require one.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 04:53 AM) IT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A SCREEN!!! Lol, are you guys serious right now? You can stroke Apple all you want, but why the HELL would you ever buy an mp3 player when you have no idea what's even playing? Jesus, even CD players had track #'s listed. Absolutely idiotic. You want something small to run with? Take a look around at all the other brands selling mp3 players that are small and HAVE SCREENS. I mean, I honestly couldn't stop laughing when I heard it first announced. The point of it was to be small, and a storage unit for songs you wanted to hear play...you didn't need a screen for what the device was...you could hear the song. It was a great size for people who wanted to run with it...and that's all it was. It wasn't meant for any other audience. This is the part you don't seem to get. Until recently, most cars didn't have displays for their CD players, either...so what? You couldn't hear the song playing?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) Whoever wants to be annoyed by a campaign photo, feel free to do so. This is a damn fine shot. It's an ok shot.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 03:35 PM) Don't mind Joe. He thinks Apple is a terrible company that makes awful products. Well, they aren't. There are a lot of good technology companies out there making good products, and Apple is one of them. Anyone that says otherwise needs to stop talking about technology.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 12:49 PM) I can't wait for Apple to release their iPad Shuffle. A tablet with no screen that costs only $350. It would be so revolutionary, innovative, and whatever other narrative is thrown at every device they release. Only they wouldn't actually release such a device, nor call it any of those things.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) So what's the best trading site to use for someone who is just going to be a casual investor? Probably etrade or ameritrade...

I haven't played seriously in a long time...I miss it.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 03:22 PM) lol shack asked about Shakeology and Y2HH decided to jump into the fray and cause a ruckus. It's what I do. Lostfan didn't nickname me Dennis the Menace without reason.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 01:32 PM) The specific story doesn't matter, but being in control of the narrative does. This is pretty much key. Also, keep in mind that the majority of voters have an attention span of...oh wow, a bird, brb!

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) lol when did I say that? I never said I didn't like it (why would I not like something that is a little bit smoother?). My point was that it wasn't a big enough difference for me to care. As in, the smoothness wasn't a huge issue before and the improvement isn't something that made me go "wow". When? QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:21 PM) 4.1 is smoother than previous iterations, but I honestly don't care for it (the smoothness) nor do I notice it enough to care for it. Just like how I didn't care for the smooth UI on the iPhone 4 when I used it for a week a month back. Right about there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 12:11 PM) Even for a $300 difference by the time the wife and I both get a phone? The biggest unseen advantage of iPhones/iPads is their resale value. Real world example, when the iPad3 came out, I sold my iPad2 for 425$. When the iPhone 4 came out, I sold my iPhone 3gs for 200$. It's like buying upgrades for 75%+ off.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) You mean with everyone I like to make people feel like individuals.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 11:21 AM) How am I in denial? I use iOS everyday. I use Android every day (pre 4.1). I don't notice any real difference in the smoothness at all. You act like Android was slow to the point where it was barely usable. That's total crap. I'm flipping around on Sense 3.6 right now on a test phone at work (with Android 4.0.3) and I don't see anything that deters the user experience. Pages flip perfectly fine, no lag and this is with 7 pages and a few widgets. I'm far from delusional when I use the products we're discussing everyday and I don't notice anything that makes me think something doesn't seem right. As for Linaro, its superiority to the stock kernel does not mean the stock Android kernel was compiled incorrectly. That makes it sound like Android was broken, which it clearly wasn't. Un-optimized? Sure, but it doesn't mean it will forever go un-optimized. Linaro is an organization that is sponsored by OEM manufactures like Samsung to make improvements upon mobile kernels. I've never attempted to run any Linaro builds, as there were some bugs with it in the early stages (Wifi specifically), but I've heard good things, especially in terms of benchmarks. No, I never said Android was so slow it was barely useable...but to say you can't see a difference in smoothness between iOS and Android is just insane. Not only have you already admitted that you could (you said you didn't like how smooth it was), only to say a few posts later that you couldn't tell the difference between the two. THAT is what leads me to the conclusion that you're in denial...in one post you say you can see it, in another you suddenly can't. It's also just incorrect...everyone could always see such a difference...let's not pretend it wasn't there.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) agreed Oh, and for the record, I just like playing devils advocate with you.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 11:10 AM) that's why everyone is given access to a coach. whether they take advantage of that or not is their own problem. Well, come on now...you've been doing this long enough to realize that for every person like yourself, there are 50 that WANT to be like you, but have absolutely zero willpower...and don't actually care what's going into their bodies UNTIL something goes wrong. Then they care...for a few weeks. As soon as they feel better, they're right back to where they were again. They also have to recognize that a diet has to be tailored to an individual, and everyone is different, with different deficiencies and requirements. A lot of trainers I've known in my life tend to push a one-size-fits-all diet on people, regardless of how little they know about them. They know it works for them, so they assume it will work for everyone

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:59 AM) UGH i just so completely and utterly disagree with you with EVERY fiber of my being. Someone who eats mcdonalds every day will get sick more often than someone who eats like i do. I basically said that, so what exactly did you actually disagree with?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 11:00 AM) You're probably right, but a lot of exercise and the diet that comes along with it has really allowed me to fight off those bugs when I wasn't before. I used to get sick at least 2-3 times a year, but the last three years, I have not been sick once. There is no doubt about this.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:52 AM) Good lord man, it is whatever you USE it for. It's used as a meal replacement if you're looking to lose a bunch of weight. If you're not, it can be used to supplement. Do you sell the stuff? You seem to know an awful lot about it! If you know what your doing, yes, it can be used to supplement...unfortunately, the crowd they're selling this too often doesn't know what they're doing. While YOU may be able to use this as a supplement, because you know how to eat, and know what you're eating...others...not so much. The idea behind meal replacement is for people that would ordinarily just eat whatever, and have no balance to to their intake of calories (what's in them) and this product forces them, for that one meal, to eat properly. You can use a wrench as a hammer, too...doesn't mean you're supposed to.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:51 AM) this, unfortunately, is going to be tough for me to combat because it's all subjective. personally, i believe these kinds of foods DO make a difference, and I'll bring up again my argument about eastern cultures having lower rates of mega-diseases than in America. There IS a difference between the foods found over there and the stuff we have available here. To say that the foods we have access to MUST BE equivalent to the foods over there is a little misinformed. I eat incredibly healthy AND supplement with Shakeology, and I have tons of energy and I don't get sick. Maybe it's the free range chicken - but odds are it's the superfoods that have been proven to be beneficial. http://myshakeology.com/esuite/home/CoachR...etLocaleCode=en I never said they were absolutely equivalent, I said alternatives that are just as healthy can be found here, even if they have different concentrations of vitamins/minerals contained within. While eating a proper diet does have something to do with fighting sickness, it's probably not as much as people would like to believe. Sometimes, not getting sick is luck...but eating properly does not and will not make you immune to viruses, colds, flu's, bacteria, etc...it will simply weaponize your body in fighting them off a bit better...but you can still get sick if you're exposed to the wrong bug at the wrong time. Eastern cultures also have higher rates of other mega diseases we don't have here at all...they're not this immune Utopia you seem to believe. They don't have the same sicknesses we have here, so of course when weighing apples vs oranges, you can get the results you want for this argument.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) Ok, so it is a meal replacement? I wouldn't be looking to substitute for my meals; I enjoy eating too much. I was thinking more as a supplement. I honestly feel great on my diet, and I don't think I have been sick since I started working out and eating better 3 years ago. Once or twice I have begun to feel like I was getting sick, and then it went away. That was clearly my body fighting something off that normally would have set in and sidetracked me for 3-4 days before. I guess I will look into getting some samples. Maybe I could try it on days when I don't eat particularly well. People use it as a supplement, but that's not what it is. It's a meal replacement, their advertising even says so.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:44 AM) I think you are both right...again, sugars in fruits are not bad...but our bodies have evolved to absorb only so much fructose or sucrose at a time...overloading on them, whether in natural sugars or artificial sweeteners isn't good. From a natural standpoint, your body would tell you if you were eating too much fruit by feeling sick to your stomach...but by combining them into these superconcentrated drinks, your body doesn't get a chance to send those signals. Sugars in anything are not bad, so long as you don't overdo it. This is the problem with modern America and it's overly "health" crazed people...they speak about moderation but almost never use it. They tend to jump off the deep end of health/fitness once they get into it, with their time consuming diets, over supplementing, wasting money on vitamins that their body pisses 99% of away, judging people who like to eat fast food once in a while, etc... It annoys me.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:39 AM) dude stop making assumptions. you're extrapolating what i'm saying to a ridiculous extent. I also agree with moderation. I use Shakeology as a supplement - NOT a meal replacement. But it's not a supplement, it's a meal replacement.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:38 AM) Yeah, I realize that there are always going to be things you can supplement with...but our bodies can survive and thrive eating local diets just fine...I don't think nature contemplates we are going to get the full worldly smorgasbord of nutrients from all corners of the globe. Are these other nutrients, at $4 a day, really going to add a recognizable difference to my health, or is it just small returns at this point? I'd like to add, that is my base diet. I certainly will splurge on the weekend and have pizza or maybe have some pho for lunch once in awhile. But those ingredients I listed above are about 75% of my food intake over the course of a normal week. This all depends on your current diet. Reddy means well in his pitch here...because he's basically saying (correctly I might add), that doing this can assure you of a better diet in an easier form factor than eating properly on your own. That said, if you already eat well, then using this product in place of your already proper diet won't do much of anything, to be perfectly honest. Though, it would be hard to prove this either way. People lean on this 'eastern' diet myth a lot, simply because of the lack of choices of "bad" foods in that area. If you eat properly here, without those types of obscure fruits/veggies, you'd probably live just as long and be just as healthy with our western healthy alternatives. Just because poor diet choices exist here that don't exist so readily there, doesn't mean you have to eat that way.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) this is wrong on a couple counts 1) Shakeology does have sugar, just a lot less than the 60g in a Naked Juice 2) There's plenty wrong with sugars in fruit. Those sugars are IDENTICAL to the sugars in a coke or kool-aid. Fructose is fructose. That's why folks who drink a lot of fruit juice have trouble losing weight even though they THINK they're eating healthy. The reality is, we should be limiting our fruit juice intake as much as our soft drink intake. WHOLE FRUIT at least has fiber as well, but juices are pure sugar. It's not wrong unless you take it out of context, which you did. Like anything, you have to control/moderate your intake of anything...drinking 50 shakes a day isn't recommended either...so you probably shouldn't drink 50 naked juices a day. There is a difference between processed and natural sugars... For example, eating a few pieces of fruit a day is better than drinking a few cokes a day. Something you were happy to gloss over just now. There is only something wrong with the sugars in fruit if you overdo it, just like anything else. Shakeology is a meal replacement...I disagree with meal replacement diets in shake form, always have.