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thanks, there have been so many reports that have come out and then refuted it's hard to keep track

So Passan is reporting this is the 2nd time the Padres have met with Manny this offseason. That's.....not good http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25999336/manny-machado-san-diego-padres-meet-second

This would be infinitely worse than missing on Miguel Cabrera, as you can't make teams like your prospects more than someone else. This is all about money if it's between Sox and Padres.

Hahn can’t let himself become the Padres whipping boy. That would be awful.

well the rumors are that Manny would only meet with them if they were willing to possibly meet his asking price, so I think their interest is more sincere than many thought.

People really should be taking the Padres more seriously. Yes, I'm sure he doesn't want to play on the west coast....but I don't think he wants to play in the midwest either.

yep, it's a pretty great situation to be in IF you're not at your final offer. If you are at your final offer and trying to run out the clock, then that's a scary situation.

It's possible

I don't think they would prefer him, as they fear the Nats getting him back in this situation. Phillies also have a lot more pieces on the infield than they do in the outfield, IMO.

One thing that I believe shack mentioned in one of his articles is the importance for both the Sox and Phillies to ensure that the other one doesn't get Bryce or Manny for too cheap of a deal. That's important because they don't want one of them to get Manny, for example, and then have enough to go get Harper. If the Phillies already know the Sox are at a high price for Manny (i.e.280) and won't be able to afford Harper also, then I could see them falling out of the Manny sweepstakes.

That he said the Phillies haven't talked to Manny in weeks? That's very believable

You've never heard of former Sox pitcher Shack McDowell? That's who this is.

Why do people assume safety net means they have the 2nd best offer? My thought was it means they have the highest at this point, but they're looking for someone to top it? Thus, they know they can't fall below what the Sox are offering.

You also have to remember that a lot of the stuff he might be retweeting is for his Dominican followers that might not be following the likes of "Our" Chuck, etc.

Again, for the very point you're trying to make, is why he shut it down. Also, why give the agents the idea that you have 600 million dollars you can possibly spend? Now, do I think they'll get both.....hell no

There was nothing to gain for Hahn to say they could possibly afford both.

And now we have Hector confirming the report, but who knows if he's misinterpreting what safety net means.

It's pretty simple, both of these guys are getting less than what they thought they'd get heading into free agency and from teams that aren't as prestigious as they wanted. Thus, there's no reason to rush a signing. Why go to Spring Training for 6 weeks instead of 3 weeks if you can get away with it?

So we have to pray that Tulo and Andujar don't get hurt?

Padres were linked to Franco earlier in offseason

Paul Crane is someone that was pounding the Machado/Padres situation a few weeks ago. Now, he's saying this (and yes I know MLB insider is fake, but it seems he has his own source):

yep, that's what I was going to inform him of