fathom

Marlins trying to dump Castro. Bring home with Yelich if it lowers the package required.

Good to hear they inquired

Rumors on twitter that G. Cole to Pirates is possibly gonna happen. Have to assume Cutch is traded then if Frazier is included. In general, I'm surprised at how little activity has been rumored for WSox besides Manny

https://mobile.twitter.com/masnRoch/status/...005664506105857 Saw on their board that Sox/Cubs/Dbacks still lingering

I still wish we give Avi a chance to show if he can improve once again. Nothing to lose with the minimal packages we are seeing for guys like him.

Ramos has been untouchable in trade talks. They wouldn't give him up for Hamilton, and he's a better fit for them

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 04:51 PM) Where was that posted? http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2...nd-britton.html

Can't believe Orioles didn't agree to trade Manny for Russell, Montgomery and Almora if that rumor is true

Drury is involved, not Lamb. I think that package is better than Cease and Adams

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 05:03 AM) I mean one team noone is talking about is the Mets. They desperately need a shortstop. They have Rosario

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 18, 2017 -> 01:59 PM) Those packages are nuts for a one year rental of Machado. Can't see the Cubs or Red Sox parting with that much talent. Yeah that's more than twice what I would be comfortable with the WSox giving up

QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 18, 2017 -> 12:33 AM) Anybody here know why MM's stats were off last season? Plus, he is not as good as Arenado. Just sayin..... His fWAR was .7 higher than Yolmer's

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 11:57 PM) What is this based on? They were going to talk extension with Samardzija, didn't go far. Bartolo Colon took more money. Freddy Garcia stay d, but he knew Ozzie well and didn't get to free agency. It is a pipe dream to think it will make a difference. Let some other team pay him $17 million in 2018, and watch how interested he will be if you take your same offer which is as good as any other team's, and add the $17 million you would have paid him in 2018 to the $30 million or so you offer to pay him in 2019. Added bonus, you save the prospects you would have sent to Baltimore. 17 million would be better spent helping to pay for Prado in a deal for Yelich.

The speculated move is something a team like the Cardinals, Astros or Dodgers should do, where they can compete with him this coming year and have a strong enough farm system to survive losing two big guys.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:26 PM) If it is about forming bonds, and not all about money, how come he isn't signing with Baltimore You mean if they trade Giolito and Lopez for him, he won't like being on a 60 win team?

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:25 PM) I don't understand why we are making this idiotic decision. Just offer Machado the most amount of money next offseason. +100000000

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 11:19 PM) I think this is all coming from the Orioles. The Rosenthal piece has already been debunked, as we never offered/will not offer Kopech. Cafardo is rarely right about anything, ever. I believe Baltimore has just been pushing stuff out there to posture. What purpose would it serve for their board insider to posture?

QUOTE (Scoots @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 11:01 PM) Yeah, that won't happen. I recall Ken Rosenthal saying the Orioles are a very difficult and unpredictable team to deal with. Very different operations than most other clubs. They might ask for something like a Gio and Lopez, then do some negotiating with Hahn, be right at the brink of getting a deal done, then pull back at the last second. This might be one of those we gotta see it to believe it cases happening. What concerns me is it's from their so-called insider, jives with what Rosenthal initially reported and falls in line with what Cafardo reported

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:22 PM) Went on the O's board and they have a member claiming to be in the know saying this: "No idea on specific offers. Haven’t been told yet. Just that offers got significantly better last night and talks really progressed. Haven’t seen anyone say anything on social media yet or any reports out there, but it will be coming." Saw that post and same guy mentioned Giolito AND Lopez

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 09:26 PM) I read a blog where the guy said a fair price would be Hansen, Fulmer, and Burger. To me, that seems about right. A top 100, a guy who struggled, and a relative unknown. What type of monetary value would you put on that package? If the Dodgers had the Sox farm system, would you take those 3 to take all of Matt Kemp's money? If so, the price to acquire Machado to get him to love the culture, with his salary, would approach $60 million. Would just outbidding everyone by $60 million work better, and keep the prospects? I Use that package to get Yelich, not a rental. Hahn should be fired if he gives those 3 up and doesn't lock up Manny

Duquette isn't an idiot. He knows he could get a better prospect than Cease at the deadline. Also, for some reason I don't think Angelos would be a fan of Cease's medical history.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 06:42 PM) The offers shouldnt be expected to go to high because he has 1 year left. What does far better equate to? Lopez? Yes Lopez and Anderson, with Anderson then being packaged to try and get Duffy

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 07:37 PM) It doesnt seem like they have though Again, says who? It's why I think the Sox offer is far better than Cease as the main piece

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 07:32 PM) What teams have the need, the cash to make a quality contract offer, & the prospect currency to get a deal done? I’m being serious, I don’t really see that many teams that make sense. The Yankees may be the only AL team that meets all three criteria and Baltimore won’t deal with them. Who else from the NL makes sense beyond the Cardinals? I expect the Phillies to be involved, but they’re outliers just like us. I’m just not seeing the matches here. Supposedly ten offers have been made. I'm sure at least one team can offer better than a top 90-100 pitching prospect and a mid-level prospect.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 05:38 PM) Why do you think this? Because a lot of teams could easily beat a Cease and Adams package. My guess is it's Lopez and Anderson.