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QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) It sucks yes Based off of what stats? Just wondering what you're looking at.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 10:22 PM) It's just hard for me to believe that Fowler at 2-3 years & $12M per is out of their price range but Cespedes & Gordon at a much higher rate wasn't. That's the type of thing that frustrates me, honestly. Again, might have been special circumstances for "star" players or the Sox backloading those contracts like crazy. We still have not heard a single confirmation that a legitimate offer was made to those guys.

QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 10:18 PM) He fits 2 of those categories. The other 2 definitely not. is his defense that bad?

Interesting comment from Cafardo's Sunday article: 4. Don’t be shocked if the Dodgers part ways with Carl Crawford and eat the remaining $42 million on his contract. There comes a point of diminishing returns — and a time to fill his roster spot with a younger, more productive player — and it seems the Dodgers are getting closer to that point. http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2016/02/...SBUL/story.html

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 09:15 PM) Which may well mean if a guy like Fowler is signed, that Garcia ends up in the minors Daryl Van Schouwen wrote today that the belief is Fowler is out of the Sox price range.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 10:10 PM) Stop it. If this were anybody but the Cubs you wouldn't be saying anything. The Cubs absolutely had an A+ offseason and everybody know it. Completely disagree....they should have landed a top 1-2 rotation pitcher with all the resources they had available. Also not a fan of the Zobrist acquisition with his AWFUL defense last year.

“We’re looking for any way to get better,” Hahn said, when asked if he liked to add another outfielder. “The final couple spots on the roster will come down to a combination of platoon advantage, speed, defense and positional flexibility.” http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/brett-...-series-caliber I have a feeling Will Venable is the most likely fit.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) I assumed Heyward? Zobrist, even though I won't rule out Fowler until he signs elsewhere

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) They finished what, 1 game back of the Pirates for home advantage in the Wild Card and 3 games back in the division? That was a race until the last couple days. Imagine hypothetically the Cardinals hit a wall the last week and only get to 97 wins. Suddenly the Cubs have a shot at home field against the Mets. Maybe it doesn't change David Murphy turning into Mike Trout, but that coulda been a different series right there. There were quite a few games where they had Arrieta go 8 or 9 innings when they were up by a handful of runs against mediocre teams.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) He said they're still looking to add " any way we can" to improve the club. Today?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) Rollins will make 2 million if he makes the club. Solid. I'll give Hahn massive credit for his ability to negotiate contracts. Rarely do you see a number the Sox sign a guy for that makes you cringe.

I will say this...with all the talk by Arrieta at the end of last season and so far in ST about how he ran out of gas, it's amazing to me that there hasn't been one comment by the Chicago media about how Maddon abused him during the regular season last year and could have cost them big time in the postseason. At time towards the end of last year, it seemed Maddon was too concerned about trying to win Arrieta the Cy Young instead of getting him ready for the postseason.

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 07:42 PM) fathom, we are in for a long year watching the Cubs euphoria grow. I am going to stay away from it as much as I can because the more I see it or hear about it the more annoyed I am going to get. If I turn of the tv/radio station when someone starts drooling over them it wont bother me as much as a whole. It's expected this year...last year kind of came out of nowhere. I'm just rooting for sophomore slumps and Arrieta coming back to earth.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) I'll take that bet, that's easy money. Honestly, you're right. Sounds better to use 100, but after look at last year's standings from the bottom to the top, a combined 120 wins is more likely. Thanks for the input.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) CF Adam Eaton LF Melky Cabrera 1B Jose Abreu 3B Todd Frazier DH Adam LaRoche 2B Brett Lawrie SS Jimmy Rollins RF Avisail Garcia C Dioner Navarro/Alex Avila Not playoff caliber lineup in my opinion. Needs one more starting player.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 07:09 PM) So you think that Rollins is still in his prime? I guess he could be, but it seems unlikely as he's already 37 years old. This is off-topic, but this signing pretty much wipes out the chance of the Sox going after Desmond, right? What do you know, Nightengale was correct once again

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) I agree with Fathom. With 40% of the NL not even trying, the Cubs will make the playoffs easily. They would have to multiple injuries to not make the playoffs. The Cubs have players on their bench/bullpen that would be better than a large majority of the players starting on the Reds/Brewers this year. Those teams won't combine for 100 wins.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) LMAO fathom. you of all people, posting this here Oh yay, this again They'll easily win 90 games during the regular season, so there's no reason to get nervous about whether or not they'll make the playoffs. It would be nice to see the Mets make the postseason again and see if their stud pitching is the Cubs kryptonite.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:46 PM) It's a minor league deal and there are some posters that upset with this move? Seriously? Wait until they sign Marlon Byrd or Venable as their competition for LaRoche/Avi. That will be a nice meltdown.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:41 PM) Just add Rollins to the ever growing list of players that the Sox get past their primes. Griffey, Ramirez, Vizquel, Jones, Dunn, LaRoche, etc. It's pathetic. Adam Dunn was not past his prime

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) Many of you act mature and above the crosstown s***flinging, but I dont. This may be one of those years that comes around so rarely where I root more against the Cubs than I do for the Sox. Let the hate flow through you. Don't stress yourself out during the regular season. A ton would have to go wrong for them not to make the postseason.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 05:23 PM) Exactly my thought. So you think opt-out at end of ST if he doesn't win starting spot?

What was your favorite moment of the Ian Desmond White Sox era?

Interesting how the Sox have added depth at starting pitching and middle infield, two places they were lacking in depth at. Now, here comes the outfield position.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 22, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) Eh. Rollins isn't coming here as a back up, I would almost bet on it. He is either a starter, or he will be released. He is on a minor league deal, which means there is nothing at risk right now, and I am sure he has an opt out, or a handshake agreement about playing time. I still don't think the Sox trust Sanchez to be a solid SS due to arm strength.