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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 12:31 AM) Hopefully they can announce the signing during the game tonight. Maybe somewhere around Chris' 10th strikeout of the game. Or Tyler's fourth. Whichever happens first. No way they'd announce tonight with the physical tomorrow (especially after the Aiken debacle).

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:28 AM) It's called rational thoughts. Not the irrational bulls*** spewed in these threads. I hope the last two winners threads were full of full credit to the entire coaching staff. It's funny, as I thought Ventura had a quicker hook than usual with Danks last night, and it made sense as Boston was hitting everything hard against him.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:25 AM) I didn't see that. Either did stone. My bad then. I thought 109 pitches or whatever made sense but I also thought our bullpen could cut through the hapless Red Sox too. Also my bad. I thought I saw him signal on the way out there. I was surprised, as I thought for sure he'd keep him out there. Oh well, this season has been full of great wins and heartbreaking losses. At least it's better than last year's boring season.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 03:22 AM) No it's perfect sense. Gardy is despised in Minny right now. Does he suck? No. His team sucks. Second. What if Sale said he was done? Robin didn't signal until he talked to him. He called for the reliever on the way to the mound

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:21 AM) When the opponent scores their 4th run, the Sox are 10-44 (.185). I know it will get overshadowed by the bullpen situation, but they have got to move Beckham from the 2nd spot vs RHP. He's now at .201

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:20 AM) So, how many runs was the early removal of Sale worth? Would we have won 4-0? Can you justify that? It looks like we didn't have a prayer of making 3 outs before 5 runs scored Who knows, but you can't deny the HUGE momentum shift that took place in the 8th. Then, the White Sox can't make contact in the 9th, and it felt like Boston had a ton of confidence. Hawk talks about it all the time when the White Sox are facing an ace.....he says "good, bring in the reliever, anyone but XX"

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:17 AM) Funny there was only one post disagreeing with yanking Sale before the bullpen failed. Then the experts came out. Got mine in during the Pedroia at bat on my iPhone, which I never post from.

It's going to suck if Hahn overpays for a closer this offseason cause this bullpen has been so abysmal. Maybe he'll get lucky and Jones returns and gets some save chances.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:11 AM) Every time Sale pitches in the 9th someone starts a whole thread about how Ventura should be fired for running his pitch counts up. I don't think a single person in this thread has said they wanted Sale to start the 9th tonight.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 03:10 AM) Lol. The guy everyone was clamping for was put in and immediately gave up most of the lead. But yeah. It's the manager. I wanted Sale Big difference between how he looked in the 8th tonight and the 8th vs the Angels.

Well that didn't take long. Sale, Abreu, Q and Gillaspie are so far and away better than the rest of this garbage roster.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 03:07 AM) Lol. Who should be in? What pitcher? No issues this inning...thought Sale should have got two more batters in the 8th.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 03:07 AM) If Rodon is watching, he'll call off the signing. He'd be the third best pitcher on this roster

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 03:05 AM) Thank you, Robin. This team isn't worth cheering for with this manager at the helm. They deserve better.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:05 AM) His fastball was working fine. Why did Tyler stop calling it? Damn it!!! Bullpen f***ing sucks What a terrible pitch he threw there.

Of course...what a joke. This is all on Ventura and Petricka.

Ugh, bad pitch call. He hadn't tried throwing anything inside in this inning.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 01:57 AM) Bulls*** right back at you. Petricka has been awesome this year. To me, the best chance for a Red Sox rally that inning was getting Sale out of the game. If their #3 hitter wasn't a lefty, I wouldn't have had an issue with pulling Sale.

In retrospect, De Aza made a hell of a play on Gomes' double to prevent the runner from scoring.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:48 AM) Kinda like when he was cruising against the Angels and then Robin decided to leave him in with ~105 pitches and we destroyed him He was in big time trouble vs Angels in the 8th. Red Sox didn't hit the ball out of the infield in that inning Against him

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:47 AM) He had 107 pitches. If he got to Ortiz there's a good chance he's breaking 120, you really want to do that in a 4-0(at the time) game when you have a reliever that's been dominant ready to go? All star break rest makes higher pitch count acceptable

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:44 AM) I came here to make sure that Soxtalk, who melts down over Sale pitch counts, was fired up about him getting pulled with 107 pitches He was cruising with their two best guys coming up. It made no sense

Freaking brutal by Ventura.

Pull him, jeez

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:42 AM) Not content with ruining Sale's sub-zero 2 ERA, Petricka ruins his own Made very little sense to pull him there with Ortiz lurking