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ha, screw you Ozzie and Rios

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:38 PM) And you know as well as I do that if the Sox had a normal season from Dunn and Rios, their offense would be fine. Disagree, Morel's offense would never be considered "fine".

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:35 PM) This is why working in young talent is rough...because people lose patience way too rapidly. Brent Morel, flat out, is not a major league caliber hitter to me. I'm fine going into next year with Beckham batting 9th, but if he has an even worse, weaker hitter behind him, then your offense is likely to suck.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:34 PM) I think Beckham is looking way too much to hit the ball to RF. No one is worse than Morel with regards to that. Bill Melton was laughing at his approach the other day on the radio, saying how defensive it is.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:34 PM) valverde 40/40 People will still argue he's lucky

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) No you don't, unless you think that Tyler Kuhn is your opening day 2b next year right now and you want him in the lineup. If he full-out busts, he full out busts. Let him do it here. 2nd base is a position where replacement level players are traditionally cheap. I clearly said if Beckham still had significant trade value, as maybe there's a team out there that will think they can turn him around. You absolutely cannot have him and Morel both in the lineup with Walker still here next year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) Flowers was never going to support that .350+ BABIP, we all knew that. But there's every reason to think he can hold a .320 BABIP since he hits balls in play hard, and if he can hit enough HR's, he'll still come out as a .250+ hitter. I think he's more likely to be a .225 batting average hitter, but he'll walk enough and hit 18-20 homers if he's a full time starter, which should make him valuable.

If Beckham still has significant trade value left, you have got to look into dealing him this offseason. He's another year away from full-out bust territory.

Flowers beginning to fade after the hot start. Needs to make a lot more contact than he does, no doubt about it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) I'd actually listen to Figgins for Rios. No way, Figgins might be only player worse. If Ozzie gets to manage him, then god help us all.

Must be nice to have positive additions made to your team at the deadline. Young, Betemit and Fister paying some big dividends for Tigers. That's two game winning hits for Betemit now.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) I remember last year when he hit the ball hard basically every at bat. You mean like a 3 month span? He was s***ty the 2nd half of the year, as he was a DP machine.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:18 PM) It sucks that the day I get my first job offer (and accepted), Jake Peavy lays an egg. Awesome. congrats buddy!

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) If you're Danks, why wouldn't you be looking for a 6 year deal? I think he can get one, something like 6/80 or 6/90. No way do we go there, and he gets dealt in the offseason. Next year's rotation: Floyd Peavy Sale Stewart Humber We'll hear all offseason that the fans didn't show up in 2011, and it was the fault of all the players.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:16 PM) Sure, trade your 2nd fastest bat in Viciedo for the slowest bat in the majors. Makes sense, Ozzie. Go for it. Play Dunn and Rios. I dare you. Of course, we could have Carlos Beltran instead of Viciedo right now.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:15 PM) Next Year Pierre in LF? Viciedo at DH or LF or RF or 3B Quentin in LF or RF or DH Konerko at 1B Beckham at 2B Ramirez at SS Morel ? at 3B AJP or Flowers C De Aza in CF Why in the hell do you want Pierre back? Where are Rios and Dunn going?

BTW, I predict Ozzie benches Viciedo on Friday and plays Dunn vs Verlander

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:13 PM) Viciedo takes it to the wall. He hit it well?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:10 PM) How in the f*** is De Aza not playing today? Oh please, if we're going to lose, I hope Rios goes 0-5 just to cause more tension between the fans and Ozzie. Today on the radio was the most heat I've ever heard Ozzie receive after a Sox win.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Wow, can Posey, Adams and Herron go back and say they just took money instead of selling their own items? 1 games suspensions would have been nice. Meanwhile, Georgia Tech gets harsher penalties than anyone for not even having their players do anything illegal in the long run. Oh well, we all know the NCAA is an absolute joke.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:07 PM) Having Danks be hurt and struggle early this year really hurt the chances of that. With Danks, the Sox should give them their best and last offer for a contract extension this offseason. If he says no, then you have to trade him. You can't afford to let him go to free agency, as the Sox will be outbid for him and honestly, getting two draft picks doesn't mean much to this organization.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:03 PM) If I were the Yankees this offseason and he were a FA this offseason, there's no reason at all not to offer him $100/6, and that's $16.6 million. And that's why Danks should have been traded to the Yankees or Rangers at the deadline this year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:01 PM) I wouldn't be shocked at him getting that if he hits the open market. Then you wish him the best. He's not a 17 million dollar pitcher to me. 14 is the max the Sox should go.

Lillibridge's swing is just awesome right now. Needs to be playing more than he has, as he's dangerous.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) Ummm....why would a struggling franchise pay John Danks $17 million a year? That's crazy. No way Reinsdorf will do that after this season...they'll trade Danks, Quentin and possibly Thornton (depending on where Sale ends up). He's not going to make 17 million a year.