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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:30 PM) Lets say we are dealing an all-star OF'er plus a good pen arm. What would be a good return? Dom Brown and a pitching prospect. You don't give up Quentin and Thornton without getting back a MLB ready part and a top 100 prospect

Someone made a great point earlier...Reinsdorf clearly respects the opinion of TLR. If TLR told him that Rasmus is uncoachable, then no way would JR bring in another sketchy personality after the Rios debacle.

So bucket, you're saying that the Sox basically weren't interested in Rasmus?

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:40 PM) Rios getting traded? STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. He's not getting traded. Quentin and Thornton are the obvious candidates. Oh, and if Quentin does get traded, say hello to your RF...Rios

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:38 PM) Trever Miller? WTF? He's older than my mom. My goodness. I think someone asking earlier if he's a big named prospect is one of the most unintentionally funny moments in this board's history.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) There are more moves being made, especially depending on what happens today. Also, at least we arent the f***ing Cards. What a bad haul for a guy with POTENTIAL to be good. I know they have a replacement in the wings, but you would have though you could get more than Dotel and CPat as throw ins. Rasmus should have netted a top 2 prospect. This better mean they know they can bring back Pujols next year.

So the Sox save like 4 million this year and 5.5 next year?

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) Is Miller in the majors right now? Another prospect type? How good is he? How is he coming here? He's like a 40 year old LOOGY

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:21 PM) lind at 1b lawrie at 3b...they have a chance to be solid in the future And still finish in 3rd place at best

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:20 PM) Thornton, Jackson, and Reed would have been a pretty steap price. See, I disagree. Jackson wasn't coming back, Thornton is overpriced, and Reed is still an unknown commodity. I think Cards liked the Toronto package more cause they'll get more draft picks out of it and Rz is better than Thornton for the cost.

Oh man, Miller is brutal. Absolutely no need for two Loogys on the team. Anything more than AA fodder shouldn't be traded for him.

So Toronto got Rasmus for Frasor, Stewart, Patterson, Dotel and Rzepczynski Hell of a deal by AA

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson. That looks like a Playstation trade

QUOTE (shakes @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:00 PM) I agree people are overvaluing Rasmus here, but I think it shows how little of value KW got for Jackson. He got nothing but salary relief for an earlier mistake, when he could have had a player with high potential that could have at least been easily moved. I am shocked so many are alright with this. I feel like the team took a step in the wrong direction and the same reactionary person may cause more damage soon. I like the deal cause it gets Teahen off the books, but like you said, it's all reactionary to make up for previous transactions that didn't work out.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:59 PM) On this board? More than 90 percent, I guarantee that. He wasn't on the 2005 Sox team, so don't be so sure of that.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:56 PM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk Give me a break, 90% of us know who Rasmus is.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) So we now have a rotation that has 2 guys that struggle to make it past 6. Stewart will be starting in no time it seems. Wouldn't be shocked if Santiago starts a few games as well.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:46 PM) Wow, I take it back. I was reading something else. I thought Asher Wojciechowski was involved. As that is what I read at a Blue Jays site. Yeah, we dropped the ball here. I'm f***ing shocked. I'm taking a break from this team. Something I just thought of is that it's very possible the Sox envision an outfield next year of Rios, De Aza and Viciedo...and thus, don't feel like they had room for Rasmus. De Aza would be their slappy leadoff hitter, of course

So can someone smarter than myself illustrate how we save 9.5 million from this?

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) I'm going to say that yes KW could have easily bested this. Rz....is a very highly regarded lefty reliever in the majors this year, regarding his trade value.

Did KW say anything about the finances involved in this deal?

So dealing Jackson for Frasor and Stewart isn't terrible, and when you couple that with getting out of Teahen's deal...I like it assuming we didn't add salary relief.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) Yeah, my tone has changed a little after learning Stewart was involved. I guess his long-term prognosis is that of a power reliever. Under the circumstances, I'll take it. Yep, he has some potential still. Like you said, better prospect than I anticipated KW getting.

So did Toronto pay for Frasor?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) KW says Rios has been benched! FANTASTIC!