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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 01:03 AM) i just want to be on the record of saying i don't like beckham. reminds me of jeff blauser. i'd be happy with smoak, wallace, or hosmer (unlikely). I agree that Beckham's overrated, but at least it would be a pick that should produce a MLB starting position player. I just got done talking to someone who saw him at the SEC Tournament and the Athens regional, and they were incredibly unimpressed by Beckham.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 02:16 AM) How was work today? Ha. I had to bite my lip so many times with Cub fans talking around me all day. You really would think that it was Oct 1st the way they are talking. I'm not letting it bother me though. I just hang with the Brewer fans. Yes, it was awfully annoying. I'm not joking when I say some people were putting in vacation requests today for the first round of the playoffs.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 01:11 AM) They still only have one real good pitcher. Arizona has 3 when RJ is healthy, the Mets have Johan, and the Phils have Hamels. I'm not worried about the Cubs doing a damn thing in the postseason. Dempster is a good starting pitcher in the NL. The Sox are going to struggle when we face him with that low and away slider.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 06:17 PM) Hm. What's never explored is trading what we have tons of. Pitching. Please explain how we have ton of pitching? We have very little minor league starting pitching depth in case someone gets hurt. You have Broadway, and then ?

QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 06:15 PM) stop it , it would take cabrera not uribe. I was just mocking people....there's no way we have enough in our system to get Kemp. I'm sure it would take very little for the Dodgers to acquire Uribe.

QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 06:15 PM) no.. isn't that the point fo this thread I see so many people suggesting that calling up Getz or releasing Uribe is the way to go. Unless our two "main" players get it going, I can't see this team making the playoffs. I don't think KW or Ozzie will stop playing those two guys.

QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) Meanwhile Ned Coletti out in LA is telling reporters he might be close to trading for a veteran infielder who can fill in for Furcal. Let the Uribe speculation begin anew. I would love to get Kemp in return for Uribe.

Does anyone really think this team can win if Thome and PK struggle all season?

QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 05:59 PM) That's misstated. It's not that they didn't want him, they didn't want to give him 5 years. They offered 4 and wouldn't budge. I was under the impression that KW only contacted Rowand's agent right after Hunter signed with the Angels, and then there was no communication between either party the rest of the offseason.

QUOTE (WinningUgly85 @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) This team is screwed. I can see this all coming down right now. Ozzie tirade, O.C calling the press box. Now KW is really pissed at Ozzie and our whole team chemistry is gone along with our offense. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3422002 Unless team chemistry can improve bat speed, then who cares if they're getting along or not?

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 05:54 PM) What ever happened to Cintron? That guy was definitely the "when he hits em" type...and that's exactly what we could use right about now. Hell move Alexei to CF and get that guy back for 2b. I hate off days sometimes.

QUOTE (whitesoxmanager @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 05:44 PM) 10.23.05. the day we shat on ourselves. lost the real gamer of the team for a loaf that ALL OF YOU were so excited to see.....WHIFF. we now are in dire need of some left handed hitting. and somebody has got to be accountable for not making the players try to hit to the opposite field. we have 2 guys in the lineup that will run thru walls to win: AJ CQ. the rest of the bunch would rather be at the beach surfin. WHERE THE f*** DID THE TOUGHNESS OF THE TEAM GO? gamers? my ass. FIRST PLACE? who cares. i would rather see baseball played well and lose than s***ty and win. the only good news to me is that the roids are out and the wild rediculously high scoring games are a thing to the recent past. now we are left with the winning teams that get clutch hits and dont make errors with solid pitching. at least we are back to the good old days brand of baseball. The Sox had every chance to bring back Rowand this offseason, and they didn't want him! That's all that needs to be said.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) Kenny getting Linebrink and Dotel has taken our bullpen from the outhouse to the penthouse. Dumping Garland's salary in favor of Floyd (who is currently pitching better than Garland at a massive discount) also gave the Sox the financial flexibility to replace Uribe with a better SS and to give us an every-day CF. While Swisher has been a dud with the bat so far, he's done a fine job filling in the gaping hole in CF and Cabrera has been a massive upgrade over Uribe. Oh, and Quentin is a legitimate MVP candidate. Getting a player like that for a prospect is nothing short of robbery. I'd say that's an outstanding offseason. I realize that people are pissed off right now, but posts like these are completely illogical. If you want to be pissed off at somebody, try the players who are hitting well below their career numbers. On what planet has OC been a massive upgrade over Uribe?

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 02:17 AM) I just witnessed the best backstage sketch ever. what?

QUOTE (whitesox32 @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:55 AM) I don't know about you guys but what I'm looking foward to most this month is kicking the snot out of the cubs for six games. taking them out of first place would give me great satisfaction. I'll gladly take a 3-3 series against them.

Tribune saying Sox will take Beckham or Wallace, but of course, won't pay over slot money.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:55 AM) I read several days ago not only are teams drawn away from Hosmer due to this financial demands, but apparently, Boras was rumored to be demanding a major league clause in his contract similar to Andrew Miller. No way in hell we're messing with that even if he's available. I keep forgetting about Alonso. I guess it's just strange to consider drafting the third best (or fourth, if you believe Wallace will be moved) first baseman in the draft at the 8th position. And from what I can quickly gather on him, there's concerns over his lack of power. Do you take a chance hoping he develops power? At 15 maybe, but I believe there should be more certainty in our position. I know Sox won't take Hosmer, but hopefully one of the top 7 picks will go to him. BTW, I heard today that the Mets think Pedro Alvarez could fall to the 18th pick.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:55 AM) I read several days ago not only are teams drawn away from Hosmer due to this financial demands, but apparently, Boras was rumored to be demanding a major league clause in his contract similar to Andrew Miller. No way in hell we're messing with that even if he's available. I keep forgetting about Alonso. I guess it's just strange to consider drafting the third best (or fourth, if you believe Wallace will be moved) first baseman in the draft at the 8th position. And from what I can quickly gather on him, there's concerns over his lack of power. Do you take a chance hoping he develops power? At 15 maybe, but I believe there should be more certainty in our position. Alonso is an OBP machine though. In our park, anyone can hit 20 homers.

I'll make a prediction...we'll see Jerry Owens leading off on Tuesday (assuming he missed today's game for no particular reason).

QUOTE (whitesox32 @ Jun 1, 2008 -> 11:34 PM) I'm all for getting Matt Holliday but it would take a ton to snatch him away from the rocks, something like fields, danks, broadway to start off I'd guess. Anyways I have a crazy idea what do u guys say to dumping thome and signing bonds? I am one of the biggest bonds haters there is and have been steadfast with my approach that if the sox ever signed him I would no longer be a white sox fan. however, I think that if ozzie and kw can get through to him that this team isn't all about you and if you become a distraction your gone. I would be able to live with bonds in a sox uniform for a couple months in an incentive laden deal if he could help the team. him clogging up the bases with intentional walks would be worth it in and of itself. what do u guys say? btw ozzie should have pinch hit quentin for crede They'd never go after Bonds, especially after the latest charges last month. And he should have ph CQ for Anderson or Swisher.

QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:29 AM) It is very good they have a day off tomorrow. I was waiting for the Guillen explosion, sure enough it happened. At the moment, the only possible move I see is Konerko to the DL. I am not sure the trade market is open at this point. Barry Bonds would look good on this team! I have a hard time seeing where we can make upgrades right now.

At this point last year, how many games were the Sox out of first?

Why is there even discussion about who should be playing 2nd base right now? Ramirez is giving us 2 to 3 terrific at bats every game. I never expected him to have the plate presence that he's showing so far. Hopefully he gets more comfortable on the bases, and starts being a threat there.

With the two Beckhams, Posey, Crow, Hosmer, Alvarez, Smoak, Skippy, and Alonso in the draft, you'd have to think we can get one of them. I wonder if Posey might not fall to the Sox?

QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 2, 2008 -> 12:07 AM) Couldn't have said it better. Nicely stated. Maybe there will be a surprise transaction but I think this is a motivational ploy. These guys are too comfortable and something needs to get done. Konerko's AB in the 9th wasn't good, if Ozuna wasn't doing some heads up baserunning he wouldn't have even made 3rd. Crede didn't get it done and Swisher is dazed and confused at the moment. I just hope they play relaxed and have fun this homestand. The offense has been as bad as you can imagine, and they're still in first place in June.