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QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 08:23 AM) Kenny Williams has zero interest in Floyd's sister What's this all about?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 12:24 AM) I really don't think you can take anything from a performance in the first intersquad game of spring. Good or bad. These guys aren't fine tuned yet, and the intensity level is not nearly as high. As Allen Iverson said "we're talkin' about practice". Does anyone think KW has put his neck on the line with a Gavin Floyd? Its almost universally thought in baseball that this guy really can't be considered a top prospect, and KW sees him almost as elite. In a way, I can't see JR ever pulling the plug on KW, but if the offseason moves blow up in his face and the White Sox don't contend, he may not have a choice. According to someone on another site, BP has the Sox pegged at 72-90. I can't see even a worst case scenerio playing out that badly, but if it did, someone would have to be held accountable. If that happens, the Sox will go into rebuilding mode next year. There's no way that Ozzie can be a manager during that time, as he's too much of a competitor. If the Sox tank this year, I think we'll have a new Manager and General Manager. I don't want this to happen at all though, as I'd like to see us continue to compete like we have for the last decade or so. A rebuilding season so soon after a WS championship would probably cut our attendance in half.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) I was waiting for a complete overreaction to this game before making this post. Whiny Pessimists view point of today's game: If a player does well at the plate and the pitcher is one of our expected starters = our starting pitching sucks If a player does well at the plate and the pitcher is one of our minor leaguers = our minor league pitching sucks If a player does well at the plate and the pitcher is a NRI = no big deal for the batter If the pitcher is doing well and the batter is a minor leaguer = Not impressive for the pitcher and the minor league batter sucks If the pitcher is doing well and the batter is a major leaguer = Our batter sucks For those situations above it doesn't matter if he is a minor leaguer or a major leaguer. Just ignore the negative Nancy's. Or someone can just be making a general comment about a pitcher after some of the recent things being said about him in the press. It would be amazing if Floyd can be a better than average 5th starter. However, I don't think he has a great chance of succeeding if he starts off in the majors right away. If he is trying to become a sinker pitcher, then I would like to see him master it in the majors before throwing him right into the fire. The best news to come out of today is that Uribe is back and playing. Hopefully that situation is in the past. Here's a question I have: why are the Sox so scared to give Fields the chance to win the LF position? With Crede in the plans for this year, and with other players who could fill in at 3rd base if needed, why not see if Fields can adapt quickly to the position?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 10:43 PM) And regardless of that, if his sinker/curve is working, he should be more than acceptable as a #5 starter in the majors. Floyd has never done anything to prove he can be a #5 starter. He's just as much of a question mark as all those busters we tried 3 years ago. Unless he clearly outpitchers the other contenders this ST, I hope he's not just handed the position by Ozzie/KW.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 03:17 PM) 4.23 good enough for you? http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/F/gavin-floyd.shtml 115 innings, 17 starts, so maybe not I meant in our organization, especially with the short field in Charlotte, as that would be representative of pitching in smaller parks like the Cell.

There was a mention in the paper that Ozzie is likely to start Erstad and Ozuna on opening day in the outfield. The writing is on the wall that if Anderson sucks this ST....he's going back to AAA.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) There's so much about him I don't know. Did he develop a good fastball/slider upon filling out his frame? Or was it similar to other failed starters who put everything they have into a pitch when working in a relief role? How good is his stuff, really? If he's capable of sustaining a good fastball for 6/7 innings, and what we're hearing about him is true, it'd definiely be an interesting decision for management. Obviously, he couldn't be pushed right into the 5th starters role; but perhaps for the future. Maybe he's our version of Jeremy Bonderman.... The Sox think he can be the 5th starter this year. Personally, I think his stuff is more of a power set-up man.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 02:42 PM) On your high-horse after one meaningless intrasquad start. Impressive! I've been saying the same stuff about Floyd since we traded for him. I haven't heard one positive thing about him over the past year from anyone not associated with the White Sox. I would love it if we got him as a project, and put him in AAA to start the year to prove that he can get AAA hitters out. For him to be the front-runner already worries me, especially as Ozzie tends to play favorites. You know I can't stand the old "Don't worry, Coop can fix him" mentality that some people have on here.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 02:36 PM) Coop must not have sprinkled his magic fairy dust on him yet. But...but....but.....they fixed his tempo! I've said this all along, but until Floyd proves he can pitch in AAA with an ERA under 5, I don't want him anywhere near the big league team. I think Haeger should get the first chance at the #5 spot, but I wouldn't be surprised if Masset makes a strong run. He has the power arm which is going to impress our organization.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 02:32 PM) Nope. Floyd sprained his ankle in the first inning, after walking Sweeney and giving up an rbi double to PK. So all-in-all, a pretty good start. I'd bet anyone right now that Floyd won't be in the rotation to open up the season.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 04:08 AM) Haha Jimbo, go ahead and post that whole article. That dude's a f***ing hack. Real, real ignorant to say that the OSU/Wisconsin game wasn't 'good' or 'fun' (however he described it). That ass also took an unneccessary shot at Butch. The article was a little over the top, but he said the same thing about Tucker that I was criticized for a month or so back. I'll give Tucker credit though....he's playing better this year than he did last year, where he really did nothing productive but score. You're a Marquette fan....is Dom James going pro?

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 25, 2007 -> 09:47 PM) Am I the only one who thinks when Pods gets a hit and the Sox win it speaks more about the opposing pitcher not Pods' influence on the team itself? I think there's a huge correlation between the opposing pitcher and our W-L record. Lets face it, the lefty pitchers are much tougher in our division than the righty pitchers. Thus, of course our record is going to be better when Pods gets a hit, as it's against RHP most of the time. I agree with some of the other people on here....his skills have deteriorated to the point where I can't see how he'll be valuable as a starter. I hope he proves me wrong though.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 17, 2007 -> 09:35 PM) Aardsma, the guy KW got to take McCarthy's place in the bullpen, gave up a ridiculous number of gopherballs himself in a very weak NL, but if you read this board, he's unhittable. Aardsma is definitely my pick for most disappointing player this year.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 24, 2007 -> 09:19 PM) If it means anything at all, lefties hit Johan Santana at a better clip than do righties Obviously, that really pretty much only applies to Johan, but it's worth noting at the very least. I wouldn't mind seeing Erstad, Mackowiak, Thome, and Pierzynski all in the lineup in games he starts. Ozzie doesn't believe in that though, as he even has told Hawk that he'd rather get beat with as many righties as possible vs Johan.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 24, 2007 -> 09:12 PM) Anderson sucked against righties and lefties, its not like he's Eduardo Perez against left handed pitching. I'm sick of the ridiculous love BA gets on this board. The guy was one of the most awful every day starters as a rookie as I've seen in a long time (from the offensive perspective). I think you know that I'm definitely not one of the Anderson's lovers on this board. I would have had no problem if we acquired someone like Pierre this offseason, and sent Anderson packing. With that in mind though, I'll play the percentages of having a righty bat against a tough LHP than a crappy lefty hitter.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 24, 2007 -> 08:30 PM) They did test. The State's Attorney said they only tested for alcohol.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 24, 2007 -> 05:38 PM) So apparently Carwell's BA Level was .00. Um, Brian, why in the blue hell weren't you driving then? I still want to know why they didn't test these two guys for drugs? One of the members on this site seems 100 pct certain that marijuana was involved that night.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 24, 2007 -> 05:29 PM) And with that, the White Sox future in the outfield will take a huge hit and the Chris Young trade will loom even larger than before. If Brian Anderson isn't a future starter for this team like the coaching staff originally thought then there have been some major f***ups personnel wise over the past few years. Great post

Sending Anderson down would make no sense. With all the LHP we face, are we actually going to make Erstad the sacrificial lamb in CF against the likes of Johan, C.C., etc. Like Tony said, I have no faith in Ozzie to handle this the right way. I can't wait for Pods to start off April hitting .100, and everyone to say "it's ok, he's rounding into shape".

According to WGN, Ozzie said that the CF position is up for grabs between Anderson and Erstad. Erstad also said he wasn't brought in to be a back-up player.

The spin job by the Illini fans is amazing right now. Besides for many thinking that all charges vs Jamar will be dropped, some have even mentioned this will help recruiting because Weber will be looked at as looking out for any African-American athlete who gets in trouble. I couldn't even make up something as stupid as that.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 08:23 PM) Maybe Weber will learn its not right or funny to do mock funerals anymore. That's actually ironic, because that was one of the first things I thought of when I heard a player was in critical condition.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 05:34 PM) This just keeps getting worse and worse, and it's not even over. When we have major media affiliations having their top investigative reporters following this story, that's when it gets bad. This story seems to be picking up steam rather than going away quietly.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 05:15 PM) Next question someone should ask -- did any of the coaching staff know about the accident prior to a resident calling 911? Everything I've heard says that yes, a member of the staff was alerted to what was going on.

I've said this for a week now: Bruce Weber is going to lose his job because of this. The fact Smith was on the bench last night is pathetic. Now that the University is investigating the actions of others, a lot of bad things are going to be exposed.