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QUOTE(heirdog @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) Please stay away from Edwin Jackson, Kenny! I hate the converted OFs that are now pitchers. Broxton looks like Jon Adkins but hopefully he would pan out. Billingsley is a must to make the trade. If the Sox trade Garland to the Dodgers, and don't get either Billingsley or Guzman included in the deal, then that's a bad trade.

I'd take Fogg over Baj. However, Fogg will probably make more money than the Sox are willing to pay.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 03:01 PM) You have to admire his love for Giles though. He posts stats I've never even heard of to show how good Giles is. I honestly think I've stopped reading stats on this site. Every stat seems as a way for a poster to push his belief onto others. Sometimes, it's better to not use stats as analyzing a player, and just trust what you see with your own eyes.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 02:59 PM) Byrnes would actually make a lot of sense for the Cubs if they platooned him with Jock Jones in right field. Byrnes rakes lefties while Jones sucks against them. Too bad the Cubs are too stupid to do something like this. Instead, they will let Jones flail away at lefties. Byrnes defense in RF would be comical. He's the most overrated fielder in baseball. However, I had the same thought that you did, and I could see the Cubs going after him.

BTW, the Sox have supposedly talked to the Rangers, Dodgers, and Padres about Garland. I guess it's time for a 20 page thread about possible Padres trades. Cue VaFan and Brian Giles.

QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) Read Eric Byrnes was non-tendered. I'd take him off our bench in a second. Even though he'd actually be a perfect fit, I'm sure he'll get some nice money to be a possible starter for another team.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) By the way, I'm not the one who invented the "OMIT TIMO" slogan. Other posters have made up nicknames for Sox players as well. Hey, that was me! That's it, I take back the compliment from a few minutes ago.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 02:36 PM) How about the loser is banished from Soxtalk forever? I'm already sick of seeing 300 new threads posted per minute. You'd think you'd fly under the radar. Nope. Maybe it's just me, but I think he's a very solid poster who posts interesting information.

Trever Miller was non-tendered, and he's a definite possibility for a LHP relief spot.

I think this is a great deal for the Yanks. They needed a CF badly, and they can afford to give the extra 2 or 3 million.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 05:52 AM) Somewhere in Boston, Peter Gammons sits silently staring at his fireplace, a tear running down his face..... He'll write an article soon enough saying how Papelboner is the greatest young pitcher in the game.

Not surprised at all that Damon picked the Yankees. He's not exactly a good guy off the field, from everything I've heard. The NY media will have a field day with his personal life.

BTW, Felix Diaz was non-tendered as well.

Looks like he's out for the game though.

How about the part of the article that says the White Sox are currently over budget?

QUOTE(KWs OK for Me @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 02:09 AM) Damn, he would have been a great 4th OFer Not really. He was pretty awful last season, and wasn't going to come cheap. With our payroll where it's at, we're going with an in-house option.

So Hendry had all offseason to find the perfect RF, and he locks up J. Jones to a 3 yr deal? He'll be great on days the wind's blowing out, and he'll be worthless when it's blowing in.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) This trade makes no sense for both sides. Texas trades easily their best starter for a seriously overhyped pitcher in Eaton, a worthless prospect (who used steroids nonetheless) in Sledge and a reliever with a WHIP of 1.4. When did Sledge get busted for roids?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 09:47 PM) I puke at that offer. That would be a terrible deal, imo. C.J. Wilson, outside of his relief performance against the Sox, was the worst pitcher I saw last season.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 10:53 PM) Regardless, I'm done with the Japanese smoke-and-mirrors pitching experiment. Once these guys are seen by the majority of the league, they're toast in the MLB. I think it has more to do with the fact that they throw so many pitches at early ages in the Japanese system, they lose their stuff at a very young age.

I think he's likely heading back to Japan. Even though it's the type of guy that could help our team, his control is just way too shaky to count on out of the pen.

Ozuna knows how to slap the ball and take advantage of his speed. He also knows he's not a home run hitter. Willie never did learn how to take advantage of his speed (which I still claim that he's not as fast as people think he is). As a matter of fact, I'd bet that Ozuna is faster than Willie.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 07:57 PM) I have a feeling this year it will be Vazquez and Garcia. I definitely agree with this statement.

Isn't Eaton the pitcher who has real question marks about his ability to throw off-speed pitches the rest of his career?

Eaton's going to give up a TON of homers in the AL pitching at Texas. I think this deal makes the Dodgers the most likely trade partner for Garland.