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Please, no Duque as a starter! Hopefully he'll demand a trade.

I know someone who's seen Gathright play a ton of games in the minors, and he continues to state he's extremely, extremely overrated. He has the lightning speed, but besides that, he's below average in almost every other possible attribute required to be a good MLB player.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:06 PM) I think Ozuna is also our backup shortstop. UM NO....that would be Jermaine Dye! Yes, Ozuna will be the SS in case something happens with Uribe. I just think it's very important with the slow pokes on our team that there's someone with a lot of speed on the bench. Willie won't be back, so there goes one option.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) I don't like the idea of Mueller as a utility man...I think Pablo proved pretty well to me that there are decent backup options out there for less money if you're willing to look. I also think that's a lot of money for a backup...and there are enough teams that would probably give Mueller a starting role that I doubt it'll happen anyway (would he really be a downgrade for the Twins?) Ozuna's main role next year will likely be as speed guy off the bench in order to run for Thome, Konerko, or AJP late in the game. Also, if we bring back Timo, then he'll likely be the back-up LF against tough lefties.

QUOTE(chisox2334 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 06:08 PM) Getting a muller or randa is very vital to this season and the future. If you look at it this way Joe Crede's back is not problem. You all saw what he did when he came back from dl and if he was suffering then no one was telling us about problem. I believe that since his agent is Scot Boras that price of a Joe Crede stock will be sky rocket come 2006 free agency. Muller contract will be more than 1 yr and that will be our future 3b. If Crede goes elsewhere, Josh Fields will be our future 3B.

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It's great we were able to bring him back and not have to trade the farm in order to find his replacement.

Congrats to PK, KW, and especially JR. This is an absolutely huge deal in terms of the reputation of the White Sox.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) I would like to know if Thome was able to call and talk to him, as well as KW. Thome talked to PK in the last couple of days. However, I HIGHLY doubt that will have any impact on Konerko's decision.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) How would people feel if PK left for less money (or the same amount)? That would just be ugly. Sadly, it's going to get ugly if PK leaves no matter what the contract is. At least the winter meetings are soon, so rumors will pop up every day about possible replacements.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:05 PM) No, I mean this time. Fathom was saying do you think it is damage control for if we lose him, but I havent heard anything like that out of Sox brass this time around. I thought there had been some talk the last couple of days that it was the White Sox brass who were "upset" that this information has been released again?

Anyone think that this might be a little damage control by the Sox because they think PK is going to the Angels? You know, start to emphasize the hip condition as a reason why they didn't want to give him the 5th year on his deal, etc? Also, by no means am I criticizing the Sox for doing this. For that big of a contract, you better be sure that he's not a likely risk to have his health deteriorate a lot during the length of the deal.

Purdue looked worse than any team I've ever seen in the Big 10/ACC Challenge. Not only can they not handle the ball, shoot, pass, or defend, I was disgusted by the awful attitudes I saw by many of the players. While I think Minnoy is an interesting talent, I'll guarantee there's no chance that he remains in school for four years (and no, I don't think he's going pro).

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) I still think his 2003 struggles were hip- related. Paulie also looks thinner (not just his hair) to me the past couple of years, maybe to take some of weight and pressure off his hip? There was nothing noticeable about Belle's hip when he played for the White Sox, and considering how quickly he went from being basically an ironman playing every inning of every game to not being able to play at all, it would make me very leery of giving Konerko the same contract. If you didn't know who he was, you'd never think PK was an athlete when you see him off the field. I saw him in the lobby of a hotel once, and was stunned at how thin he seemed to be.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 05:00 AM) I bet he gets 2/$5M with a 3rd year option, small buyout Well, I would be pissed beyond belief if we gave him that deal.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:58 AM) You'd be suprised. I'll guarantee that Myers won't get more than 2 million in a season. About $1.5 million seems more likely.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:46 AM) I am, and i was for Deron and Luther. I honestly could care less what these guys do in the NBA (i mean i'd rather have them be successful, but you know what i mean) And you are correct about his shooting. But right now, he can't even make the open shots when he does have time to get his body under him. I don't understand it. Krush...you seem like an intelligent Illini fan. You know how a lot of the posters on the illiniboard seem to mention Dee's NBA career every other hour. Congrats on the win though...and congrats on getting Gordon.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:40 AM) I know. But he still didn't hit some open shots. He can't just limit himself to scoring in transition. If he's an all-american, he can't let a good defender make him shoot that terribly. Dee does a TERRIBLE job at squaring up for shots coming off of the dribble. He's a very good shooter when he gets the ball passed to him and can get his body underneath him. However, when he pulls up off the dribble, there aren't many worse shooters than he is. He was fading away on a lot of his shots tonight also. I've never thought that he projects as a NBA player, and everyone should be more concerned with how he does for the Illini than what this means for his NBA career.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:33 AM) Don't get to down on Dee. Marcus Ginyard is an elite defender, even as a freshmen. He's going to lock down alot of good point guards this year. Thats one thing this Carolina team can do, is defend. Now shooting and rebounding, thats yet to be found. R. Terry looks absolutely awful. I know he was supposed to be the main scorer for UNC this year, but his shooting has been pathetic so far. UNC is going to have a tough time making the tournament this year, as I think they'll struggle to win on the road in the ACC.

No surprise there. I think PK is going to decide sooner rather than later. I'll be shocked if he hasn't picked a team before the end of this week.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:13 AM) Illini are playing like garbage, but finding ways to win. The development of the team will improve greatly when Brown is moved back to off guard where he belongs. He's not moving anywhere. They have no other point guard. Maybe I'm missing something, but Frazier looks awful when I've watched him.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:58 AM) Dee Brown is playing absolutely terrible right now. Good win for the Illini, but Dee's absolutely not a point guard. He can't create his own shot if his life depended on it, and he's not a good creator.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:22 AM) George Offman did say that Konerko is leaning heavily toward returning to the Sox. If I didn't know better, I would think that someone recently told Offman that PK is coming back. He thought a decision would be made before Friday. He also said that Thome talked to him on the phone.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) I think they would have taken Gio Gonzalez and Daniel Haigwood for him. Very likely, but since we've traded them, I don't think it's really possible for the Sox to get Overbay now.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 08:59 PM) Overbay is available and the Brewers want young, cheap starting pitching. We just gave that up for Thome. Overbay is overrated anyways. Good OBP but do you really want only a 20 homerun guy at 1B/DH? They turned down McGowan straight up for Overbay. The Brewers don't think Fielder is ready for the beginning of next season, so they're going to have to be blown away by an offer to do it. I don't think they're a good fit with the Sox right now.