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OK, then who here actually thinks Ozzie is a good in-game manager?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) LOL. You're calling the AL Manager of the year a terrible manager. The statement is funny in and of itself. I need say nothing. Yes, he's an absolutely terrible manager. I think the list of people who agree with this is growing by the inning.

QUOTE(infohawk @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) I understand that keeping the starters in the game through six or seven innings benefits the bullpen, but it seems to me that our bullpen gets plenty of rest. I'm no manager, but wouldn't it be a good idea to have the starters pitch at least an inning less or a certain number of pitches less than what would normally be expected this late into September? That's one way to keep them fresh. I've been saying this same exact thing for a while now. Ozzie needs to trust our bullpen, and maybe taking out the starters a little earlier on a consistent basis would have saved our starters arms a little. They've thrown so many pitches all year, that has to be taken into consideration for their weak performance lately.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:13 AM) SHHHHH. You might hurt Ozzie's feelings. He might not show you his AL manager of the year award in only his second year of managing with a "terrible, terrible offense" if you don't stop yelling at him. I hope he remembers to carry that trophy with him to the unemployment line in the next few seasons. I'm beginning to think you'd rather try to bait myself and others instead of actually commenting on the game. Since there are no personal attacks on this board now, all I can say is

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) coming and facing 2 batters, both lefties, and getting only 1 out is not good in my book. Sorry. Yet you had no problem with Garcia starting that inning?

Good job Viz! I hope Neal gets his bowl of water when he's bunking with Marte in Ozzie's doghouse.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:10 AM) Crappy pitching with crappier offense is not a good mix at all, they SUCK right now. May I add in crappy managing as well?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:10 AM) LOL What, no response? Do you see something you disagree with?

So Ozzie has a quick trigger with Cotts, but basically leaves Garcia in to completely tank? That's horses*** managing!

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) Good job Neal. And by good job I mean not a good job. Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.

Neal Cotts = situational lefty

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:07 AM) If by decent you mean 11th in the AL, yah, they are decent. We've gone over this time and again. Who gives a flying f*** what the overall bullpen ERA is. When they actually go to their main guys in a close game, they have solid relievers. You're the same person that tried to tell me the Yanks bullpen was bad, cause of their overall ERA.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:07 AM) He's still the AL Manager of the Year. Not if the Sox don't make the playoffs he won't be.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:05 AM) Haha. I love this thread. Probably about as much as many of us love our manager.

9-7 game....thanks Ozzie! It's funny, not even Hawk or DJ can make an excuse for Ozzie's pathetic decision making. Can't use "big picture" bulls*** anymore.

Belliard homered, 6-3 they're up. All I know is that Ozzie is lucky that there are new rules on this board.

Indians just won

Is it me, or does Ozzie not respect the Royals? There have been numerous games against them lately where he acts like they're not capable of coming back from a 4 or 5 run lead.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:01 AM) I don't evern want to hear blame of Ozzie. Blame this fricking pitcher. Blame him 100 percent. I disagree. Garcia battled his ass off to get thru 5 innings. It was obvious he had nothing, yet Ozzie put him back in the game. At some point, a manager has to put personal friendship and stats aside, and do the right thing for the team.

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Sep 15, 2005 -> 02:01 AM) C'mon, he's been stellar out there all year. It's just 1 bad game. Oh yeah, Freddy needs to go. Give the bullpen some work. 2 triples? He's been anything but stellar. Even the most positive posters on this site think he's a disgrace of an outfielder.

Ozzie is the worst manager I've ever f***ing seen. There's not a reason in the world for Garcia to be in the game still.

I would take Carlos Lee over Podsednik on defense. I never thought I would say such a thing.

Good grief, Pods is such a f***ing disaster in the field. Hey Ozzie....PULL GARCIA!!!!!!!!

Why has Macha not been ejected tonight? This is the worst home plate umpiring I've ever seen. Hawk might have jumped out of the booth and gone after the ump if this was in a Sox game.

Garcia hasn't looked sharp, has thrown 91 pitches, and has allowed 10 base runners in 5 innings. For Ozzie, that means he's good for 7.