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I know this isn't probably the first thing that is of concern, but if Jenks was to come up and show great stuff/ability....he could be a very valuable trading piece. A lot of teams would be interested in a potential closer like Jenks. Lets just hope he does good. It's been a long path for him.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:39 AM) I agree with fathom. Frank is just too damn selfish. Hell, I never said Frank can't hit homers. I made it clear that when I said I thought he was selfish because he's up there swinging for a homer every AB. When he connects, it's great and everyone is happy (rightfully so). Trust me, I was just as happy as anyone about last night's heroics.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:46 AM) you know by now, they only show up when we're losing. I don't take offense to much that is said on message boards, but that's total bulls***. I'm on gamethreads nearly every single night, win or lose. Even the most optimistic of posters will stick up for me on this point.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:46 AM) you know by now, they only show up when we're losing. Wow, I'm missed? Actually, I'm in the process of moving, and I was stuck without internet and television until late tonight. Pisses me off that I missed last night's heroics. And yes, I think it will be interesting to see if the Sox might consider Dye at 1b next year. It's a lot easier to find a RF than it is a 1b.

Kudos to all the fans that stayed about 6 hours at the park to see this game end.

Good job by Dustin there of making it easy. Koch who???

Any chance that the top of the 9th is easy here?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 04:13 AM) Great work from Shingo out of the 'pen, regardless of the homerun. Yeah, Shingo did a good job in this high-scoring game. My big problem was with Ozzie, and not Shingo. No reason to have Shingo pitch another inning there. Thankfully, we had a great relay to get the lead runner.

Are all games against Tampa on the 4th of July this crazy?

This game should have been in the hands of Cotts, Cliff, and Hermanson for the last two innings. Why is it that when Ozzie has a bad managing game, it just seems to snowball that entire game?

What the f*** is Ozzie doing? Cotts should have been in to start this inning. Shingo has never been very good after a full inning.

The fact they called Walker back up after the Angels debacle pisses me off enough. For Ozzie to continue to use him in games with outcomes still in doubt is just ridiculous.

This goes to show you how valuable Marte is. With a healthy Marte, Cotts would have been pitching this inning. Walker is a right handed version of Paniagua. It's absolutely pathetic that we know he'll suck, yet Ozzie continues to bring him into the game.

What more does Walker have to do in order to get released? Way to let Tampa right back into this game Ozzie.

Please get this piece of s*** and his pathetic slider out of the game. Why is he in the f***ing majors?

Oh boy, a Kevin Walker sighting.

Good job by Viz overcoming the mental error by Crede.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) possibly rowand He's brutal against RHP. Against LHP, he should be much higher in the order.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Since May 5, Iguchi is .241/.311/.406 Maybe he should be moved out of the 2 spot. We have no other options to bat 2nd. Iguchi's numbers with RISP are much worse than those numbers you listed lately.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Fathom, I think what we have on our roster is about average: -Rowand -Thomas -Crede -Buehrle -Garland (Not drafted by the Sox, but we pretty much developed him) -Cotts (Ditto with Buehrle). I don't consider Cotts, but I'll give you Garland. Still, that's not a lot of guys in the last few years that we've developed.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) Thats a piss-poor defense. Just cause it happens other places doesn't mean it has to happen here. Especially when it concerns the team with the best record in all of baseball. I don't see why keeping things in perspective is so hard. If people would actually think before they posted something, the quality would increase exponentially. I was really hoping you wouldn't use the "team with best record" reason for why people shouldn't complain. There's still half of the season left to go. I'm definitely not someone who thinks that it's a sure thing we'll make the playoffs.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) Um... McCarthy was in Low-A last season. There was a reason for that. The reason he's not getting major league hitters out has nothing to do with the minor league people devolping players. Yeah, I wasn't talking about McCarthy in regards to how we develop players. Basically, it dealt with how we just don't produce any players from our minor league system on a consistent basis. The Sox are notorious for not developing their own talent very well. There's a reason that we have very few players on our MLB roster that we actually develop. How many times have we been disappointed by a guy that is brought up from the minors, only for them to look like they don't belong?

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) 5-3 Twins 2 run single by Castro Super

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:43 AM) Most unpleasant bunch of people I think I've ever seen. Good god, and here I was thinking that sanity had been restored a bit, we just get more people who do nothing but b**** the entire game. Go to any gamethread for any team in any sport....it's the same way everywhere!

Guys are definitely in launch mode right now. Just have to hope that they get all of it, and stop flying out.