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We had a chance to draft Street, didnt we last year?

With that amazing inning by Walker, can we trade him to the Cubs for C. Patterson? I'll be happy to take Patterson off their hands.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) My complaining is working. Has anybody noticed? Please b**** about how we never hit pitchers like H. Street, and that our bottom of the order sucks.

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) minnesota won 5-4 cleveland lost 5-4 detroit won 7-3 Detroit, with Ordonez, is a team that impresses me. However, we'll still be up 16 games on them if we lose tonight. The Tigers might end up being our allies by the time the season is over, as they'll have the chance to beat up on the Twins. We're off to a great 7-1 start against the Tigers this season.

Walker's 2.80 WHIP is very deceptive.

QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) atleast we hopefully get to see jenks Walker was warming up.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) minnesota wins Super

Timo refuses to walk on the 3-1, and then pops it up. That was a very undisciplined inning.

Lefties or no lefties...who would give you a better chance to get guys out? Walker or Jenks?

QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:46 AM) like I said, pierzynski sucks at the plate right now His bat speed is painfully slow. I know Widger is struggling also, but we need to get AJP some more rest. I was surprised that AJP started all 3 games against Tampa, especially with 2 lefties facing us. And Kevin Walker is warming up....BOOO OZZIE.

Wow, AJP is struggling. Trying to hit a 2-run homer with no one on base.

A's have missed a lot of chances to blow this game WIDE OPEN. Unless Dye is up, we need to ph Thomas if we get one runner on base. No reason to use him with no one on base, and we're down by more than one.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:40 AM) I agree with that. I was simply talking about everybody's reaction when he was thrown out earlier. I think it's just the fact that since he is such a one-dimensional hitter now, it gets really annoying because he pulls so many balls, and it ends up being grounders in the hole so often. Thus, his lack of speed is magnified even more.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:39 AM) Garland threw so many pitches because they fouled off a ton of pitches. Garland threw 75 strikes in 111 pitches, that's not a terribly bad number. Only walked 1. He just had a ton of pitches fouled off. If you can't consistently strike hitters out, this A's team will eat you alive. The A's have a lot of guys who will strikeout on a regular basis. However, someone like Garland will struggle against the A's because he can't put the hitters away once he gets two strikes. I'll take a 2-1 record against the A's any time from one of our pitchers.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) Cliff is looking shaky. Not even someone with a 100 mph fastball can get away with the pitches Cliff has thrown tonight. 94 mph fastballs right down the cock are going to be hit hard by MLB hitters (not named Willie Harris). Cliff's been great this year, so an off night here and there is acceptable.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:36 AM) I just think it's silly to kill the guy for being slow. We've all known he was slow for years. I guess i'm just getting sick of the "what have you done for me lately" attitide i've seen on this board of late. What have you done for me lately? To me, PK has been just about the most disappointing player on the team this season, along with Uribe and Rowand (expected Rowand and Uribe to continue to show improvement at the plate). PK has the 19 homers, but he's struggled all year at the plate in terms of hitting liners and getting runners in. PK is nowhere near the overall hitter he was in the past.

Can we please hold this team scoreless after we score a run?

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) If that happens, fine. But was of right now, he's a member of the White Sox. So i'll support him like all the other players. Not diss him to hell for being slow. He's been slow for years. Just cause we diss him, doesn't mean we're not rooting for him to do well. Hell, I hate Timo more than anyone else in the history of the Sox, but I still am happy if he does something good to help the team.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) I've said this a bunch lately...with Gload, Rogowski, and Dye on this roster...I'd rather have Konerko's dollars go to Garland/Buehrle. Gload and Rogowski are not options to start at 1b on a consistent basis in the majors. It's obvious that Gload is not a favorite of Ozzie and/or KW. I actually think there's a chance we try to make Dye a 1b, and put Anderson in RF or sign a cheap RF. It's easy to find a RF for about 3 mil a year that will give you .270 with 20 homers.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) Simple execution by Harris tonight, something pitchers do regularly in the NL, the Sox are winning this game right now. Did someone say the execution of Willie Harris?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:28 AM) Replace Timo, Harris, and Walker with Duque, Marte, and Gload? I could live with that. Timo is 3-3 tonight. That means he has just as much job secruity as Frank or PK. Jenks will be the person who is sent down.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:28 AM) How slow is Konerko going to be 5 years from now? In no way is this in reaction to tonight, but I hope he's slow for another organization. Pk doesn't strike me as someone that's going to improve....especially as he gets older from here. I like PK, but in the Sox best interest, it's better that he goes elsewhere and signs a 3 yr/33 mil contract.

What a joke. How many times has PK grounded out deep in the hole the last week? Maybe he should stop trying to pull every single pitch.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:24 AM) Willie makes his 4th out today with a man on 2nd...and the crowd deservedly boos him. Willie...you're making me want to keep Timo on the team. This might be Willie's last start with the Sox. It's very possible they'll call up Gload after the ASB.

We have two back-ups on the bench, yet we let our worst hitter bat with the tying run at the dish. Someone explain that to me. At least Everett did his job!