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Any note of how much the cash was for Contreras? Also, for anyone complaining about giving up Loaiza, remember this stat: 2 of his last 11 starts have been quality starts. J. Navarro could have done that.

This is a tremendous deal by KW!! Loaiza isn't anywhere near as good as he was last year, and there was no way he was coming back. Hopefully, we got a lot of money from the Yanks to pay the next 3 yrs of Contreras salary. Think of it this way: If he was a prospect, he'd be as high of a pitching prospect that existed in mlb. I would love him w/Buehrle, Garcia, and Garland next year. Way to go KW.

And you know what? They aren't coming back this season.

Seriously, what in the hell was KW and company thinking when they made Borchard untradable, but were willing to give up J. Reed? Borchard looks as hopeless in the majors as any prospect I've seen in a long time. The Bears need a 3rd string QB Joe.

Jose couldn't have a big uppercut in his swing if he tried right now.

It's beyond amazing how predictable this team has become. Did anyone actually think Marte wouldnt walk Higgy there, or that Borchard would make contact? Who's up for predictions on Valentin? I say strike out on a change up.

Give it up buddy. I hate those northside f***ers.

This has hbp or wild pitch or walk written all over it. come on Marte!

He put Timo in to run for Everett right before Borchard was batting. He could have easily put Sandy in at 1b, and had Timo bat for Borchard and go into RF. Like many will say, Sandy can't run, so why put him on the bases. Well, what's the point of having someone on your team if they can't even pinch run.

Also, looks like Everett could be out for a while with a leg injury. You have to question trading your top pitching prospect for someone who's out of shape and injury prone. This is why Floyd would have been a terrible choice.

I've seen enough. Ozzie is an absolute horses*** manager! Why in the f*** do you have Borchard bat in a situation where you need contact when he's a massive strikeout hitter? Timo is a contact hitter who has gotten some clutch hits this year. Instead, Ozzie decides to sit on his hands and do nothing. Ozzieball, it's pathetic!

Seriously, why is Willie in the majors? There's nothing that he does well. I'd rather have B. Nelson playing 2b, at least he can switch hit. Willie is the most fundamentally unsound non-power hitter I've ever seen.

You have to love the veteran presence that Lee, Konerko, and Valentin are providing right now.

You really think that enough trades can be made to fix this team right now? Basically, the offseason from last year is catching up to us. We didnt really sign more than 1 or 2 free agents after losing about 6 major league players.

Are you kidding about Uribe? I think he's been the best defensive infielder the Sox have had in a long time. His arm is incredibly accurate, and doesnt seem to boot any plays. BTW, how piss poor is Willie's arm? I can count 3 triples the last week that he could have easily thrown the person out on.

This team is nowhere near as bad as the Royals. Their pitching staff is brutal. However, it's not a stretch to say that the hitting for both teams is comparable, with the Sox hitting being maybe one player deeper. However, I would definitely say that the current White Sox team is the 4th best team in the AL central.

As mentioned earlier, the Mets were interested in Loaiza. They ended up giving up Kazmir to get V. Zambrano. If the Mets offered this same deal for Loaiza, I hope to god that KW didn't turn it down. Loaiza is gone after this year anyways, and he's been a below average starter for a majority of this season. Kazmir would easily be our best prospect. KW, there's still one more day to realize this team lacks "it" this season.

I'll go as far to say that Willie Harris is the worst regular to play for the White Sox in the last 10 years. He has an astonishing 3 extra base hits in his last 160 at bats. He's not a good baserunner, and his defense is nothing special. At least Royce played terrific defense and was capable of getting a big hit once in a while.

If this trade were to go down, then just think of the prospects that we gave up this year to have a team that is currently 4 games down: -Olivo -Reed -Sweeney -Rauch -Morse For those guys, you would have thought we could have gotten a little better value than what we did. I also might be the only one who isnt thrilled that we have Everett coming back next year for like 4 million. He's not an outfielder cause of his defense, and you would have to think that Frank is coming back.

Careful, that 4th outfielder has been the brightest spot (along with Shingo) on the Sox all year. We could only wish that the rest of our young guys have improved like Rowand has.

Some quick thoughts: -Floyd is a terrible defensive outfielder. He cant play RF, which could likely lead to him DH, and carl in RF. Equally as bad in the OF. -No way is Maggs coming back. Before the injury, there was no chance in hell. Now, I find it very unlikely the average payroll Sox would pay over 10 million a year to a health risk. Not a smart investment. -Does adding Cliff Floyd make the Sox 5 games better than the Twins? We still have holes at catcher, reliever, starting pitcher, and 2b. -Why couldnt Sweeney be groomed as the Sox 1b of the future?

Why is everyone so worried about Benson going to the Twins? He's not that good, and should have troubles in the AL compared to the NL. Also, the Twins would be giving up some of their future for a rental. Also, the Sox are not in a position where they can worry about something like this. They need to improve their team a lot more than the Twins do.

Amen, KW has taken a 2000 AL central team with a great future and good farm system and the team has not won s*** since he took over. Now, he looks to be depleting our farm system while overpaying in nearly every trade he makes.

If this is true, then KW needs to stop drinking the White Sox koolaid and realize that the team needs to add its own players if they want to compete with the Twins, and not worry if they trade some of their top young players to get an average pitcher.

Why does everyone think Kendall could be in this trade? Don't you think Gammons would have mentioned it? I don't think it would be legal to get nothing in return, so maybe we'll get a minor leaguer also. Maybe J.R. House, a former catching stud prospect who I believe is out of options.