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    Looking forward to 2025.....

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    7 hours ago, Highland said:

    I can keep an open mind about Getz, but that does not mean I am optimistic. I have been a fan for a long time, and I have never seen it this bad. JR sees the new stadium as his legacy. Even you are a fan who wants the new stadium, it is still a good 5-6 years away. So much has to happen to turn things around, but the team has a tone-deaf owner. More losing is on the way.

    Y'all are missing the genius of Jerry's plan.  He wants public funding for his new stadium.  The way this team looks, he is going to get it from Chicago!  At this rate, Chicago will fund his stadium in Nashville !!!!  Brilliant!!

    Garrett Crochet named Opening Day starter

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    Just to add to the discussion.  Tommy John was a pitcher back when they actually pitched.  Modern day pitchers are more throwers, giving max effort on almost all pitches.  Back in the day, no one threw 100 mph, then a few and now almost every team has a couple guys capable of 100 mph.  Crochet may have on opening day (first opening I didn't follow in probably 50 years).  Point being 60 of 87 pitches being max effort is different than 15 of 120.  Several studies point to arm stress not being linear but going up near exponentially at a certain point.  I think that is where the now common 100 pitch limit came from.  Look at the innings guys used to throw in a year.  200 was nothing.  300 was frequent. Seaver began MLB at 22 years old and went over 250 innings in 11 of his first 12 years!  One would think with modern training and medicines pitchers should be accumulating more innings not dropping like crazy.  Now 180 is a lot because of much more max effort?  (Also, with guaranteed contracts, ownership is probably more worried for the health of their 100 million dollar investment.)

    For teams with budgetary constraints, I think you could make a case for treating pitchers like NFL running backs.  A granted, shitty way to treat human beings but probably cost effective.  Draft pitching heavily , develop, use heavily while under team control, if no team friendly extension- trade near end of control.  Rare second contracts.  You can bring in cheap vets and reclamation projects to fill out a staff or pen but most of staff is home grown, young and cheap.  Pitching is always a shortage so you get a premium in trades to fill out your positions and/or reload pitching staff.  If you look at the high dollar pitching contracts, very few of the long/expensive ones returned excess value to the team while many were bad returns on investment.

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    How to Draw Someone to the Ballpark 2024

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    1) WIN

    2) A shooting gallery with Chicago gangsters theme.  Go in and shoot targets of Al Capone, Rick Hahn, and Jerry Reinsdorf.  Add images of players who make errors or pitchers who give up homers.  A murderers/managers row with Bevington, Griffol, and TLR?

    3) Rehire Mike Veeck.  Youngsters look him up!

    4) Have a gambling machine.  Set the odds at one in two million.  Every admission gets to pull the lever.  If you win, Jerry sells the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

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    Hendriks signs with Red Sox

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    20 hours ago, ptatc said:

    Not necessarily this exact case but in in a presentation with Dr. James Andrews and his stats are that we now get about 88% of MLB pitchers back to the majors around 12-14 months with the typical UCL reconstruction. However with the new internal bracing they are returning in just under 7 months 

    Haven't seen the data.  Did he have any information besides recovery time between the two?  Such as those who returned to previous level of performance and reinury/tear rate?  I know bracing may not have a significant n that have been followed since it is newer.  You hear of traditional pitchers who gain velocity post TJ rehab, is this seen with brace?  

    Ohtani Watch: Dodgers sign - 700M over 10yrs

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    For those interested, I did the math.  His salary cap number is 46 million.  That is right in line with most predictions.  He gets 2 million.  What rate of return do you have to generate on the "44" million deferred to equal 68 million in ten years?  It is 4.5%.  So while they claim there is no interest on the deferred money, I would argue there is.  Ohtani got the money everyone thought he would but 700 sounds cooler than 460.  He is actually just locking in a guaranteed 4.5% return on the 44 million for ten years.  Creative and a win for him as he stated his biggest desire is to WIN!  Lowering the cost while he plays allows for more money to put better players around him.  As many pointed out, his endorsement deals will provide the cash flow while playing.  Additionally, he can move to a state without income tax after playing when he gets the 68 million a year and save around 4 million a year in taxes.

    10 for your personal Hall of Shame

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    1 hour ago, wegner said:

    I believe his nickname was The Road Runner? I seem to remember Harry or Jimmy saying meep meep when he ran down the 1B line. Anyway, I saw in his obituary from 2020 that he was a 5 tool OF!!

    The Road Runner was Ralph Garr if I remember correctly.  His outfield defense would fit in really well with the guys of today though I don't think he was a bad dude deserving of this top ten.

    Cease To Padres per Passan

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    Agree that not all top 100 prospects are equal.  Per MLB.com, there is one 70 FV,5 at 65 FV, and 11at 60. (Montgomery at 17 is their last 60 FV).  Let's just assume the rankings are "correct" then if you get one of these 17, you could certainly take less on the second prospect.  Also depending on how good the first two prospects are would impact what else you get.

    Fall/Winter Ball: Week 3

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    https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-prospect-jake-eder-shows-growth-in-arizona-fall-league?t=arizona-fall-league-coverage 

    Here is an excerpt from the above article on Eder.  Made it four innings.  Four runs but three in first.  Talks about working with Dodgers pitching coach.  Think he was 93-96 pre TJ and much less post surgery/foot injury so maybe this is an improvement

    "Eder, who was working his fastball mostly in the 93-94 mph range, said his ability to incorporate his lower half more consistently changes everything about his repertoire and how he uses it. His fastball spin efficiency was better, giving it more ride up in the zone. It helps him keep his slider and changeup on the same plane, leading to better command and more deception. Feel for pitching can often take a while for a pitcher to find following a long injury layoff, but for Eder, it's less about the ball coming out of his hand than it is the efficiency of the delivery."

     

     

     

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