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    Sox trade INTL $ to LAD for two RHPs

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    We traded the right to spend money.  With what we have just witnessed at the deadline, who thinks we were going to spend that money?  People correctly point out that these deals are worked out often years in advance and we most likely had no one lined up.  While I would prefer to be the Dodgers and have so much talent lined up to acquire that I needed more pool money, the Sox aren't in that position.  Considering the above statements, getting two actual players, 19 and 20 years old, one of whom has had some success, in essence for nothing was actually the correct move.

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    Kim Ng: "I called up my man Kenny Williams and got it done"

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    16 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    I agree. Jerry would have to make her Pres of Baseball OPS and give her a massive raise. Her gig in Miami has great potential and no reason to give that up, unless you make it extremely attractive for her. But hey, if she wanted to come for that, by all means I would take her over KW and RH in a heartbeat.

    I fear everyone is missing a massive issue.  How long will Jerry have the team?  Do you uproot your family, leave your current good gig to go to a team that will likely be sold when the current, elderly, owner passes?  After paying a couple billion for a team, most new owners will want to put their own management team in place.  You would be gambling that you could turn a team around so quickly that a new owner would want to keep you and your people in place.  Kim Ng seems to be doing a decent job but the Marlins don't give me the same organizational vibe of the Rays or Dodgers where I might be content to just sit back and not rock the boat.  Owners have egos.

    Kim Ng: "I called up my man Kenny Williams and got it done"

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    It very well could be that the parameters of a deal had been worked out.  It was a busy time, Hahn could have been on the phone with some other club and she may have called saying yes we will do the deal.  Or Hahn could have been locked in a closet.  I don't think if Hahn was completely out of the loop, you keep sending him out to the press.  Think stuff would have leaked more from other organizations also.

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    Hahns gets #4/5/7/11 prospects out of Top 40 traded

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    1) We shouldn't have been in this position.

    2) Due to how weak our farm system was, (caveat for it is only one ranking system, 2023 picks not included) the prospects we acquired according to MLB.com now make up our #2,4,5,7,14,27 and a low 30s prospects.

    3) It was a solid haul of prospects for what we gave up, our relative lack of leverage, and saved a fair bit of payroll.  

    4) Using some historical data, we should expect several of these players to get to the major leagues.  One or two may be reasonably solid players.  On one of the deadline broadcasts it was mentioned that over something like the last 15 years 574 prospects were traded.  3% became major impact (not sure what qualifies) and a bit over 10% became solid regulars (again don't know their criteria).  It dampens my enthusiasm but overall, we received some players closer to the majors and higher rated than what most other teams received so maybe somewhat better odds.

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    Liam TJS

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    58 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

    He’s had the tear in the elbow since he was in Oakland, he let that out of the bag last year 

    I understand he has had a small partial  tear.  I haven't seen his last scan (or others) but if it is now totally torn or significantly progressed from before then it is different.  My point was going into the trade deadline , the front office knew he was out for all or virtually all of 2024.  

    8/1 Games

    in FutureSox Board

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    3 hours ago, ptatc said:

    Is there a way to find the DSL and ACL games on the MiLB app? I see how you found it online but I can't find it in the app?

     

    Thanks!

    Don't use the app unless watching game on iPad.  Sorry not more help.  I think one of the links only began carrying those two leagues in the last year or so.

    Clevinger Activated, Navarro and Shaw Called up

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    2 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

    How does the claim order work for subsequent players if we do claim someone? Meaning, do we stay the same place in the order for the next players, or are we dropped lower in the order as a result of having already claimed someone?

    I think each time it’s the same order but not positive. 

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