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QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) You don't start worrying in May is all I'm saying. He's 3-2. He's not an Elarton-like 0-5. 3-2 is a team stat, his ERA is still over 6, that's what I'm looking at.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) If he's never played of and nobody is talking about him being moved to of, how are you so sure he will be in lf in 08?? It's a hunch, if he continues to hit like this and Owens continues to suck, the situation will be absolutley perfect for Fields to head out to LF.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2006 -> 10:10 PM) I'm not talking about a free pass to be bad. The guy is 3-2 and yes he's been pretty s***ty, but not so s***ty as to not give him a break for a while. I think some people just hate Garland and always will. Not saying you are one of them, but he'll be Judy to some, forever. August: G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA 6 6 1 4 0 0 0 37.2 47 24 20 6 10 21 4.78 1.51 .309 September: 5 5 1 2 0 1 1 37.0 33 16 16 7 10 24 3.89 1.16 .243 April/May: 7 7 2 2 0 0 0 44.0 60 33 33 8 10 19 6.75 1.59 .333 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total: 18 18 4 8 0 1 1 118.2 140 73 69 21 30 64 5.23 1.43 When exactly does his break end and we start worrying?

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ May 17, 2006 -> 10:03 PM) To set things straight, as pointed above the past between Springer and Bonds hasnt been to good as Nokona noted, Springer obviously has no liking for Bonds, you all saw the clip on espn he was definitely aiming for Bonds and will get fined for it because he hit him. The fans standing up and giving an ovation is just their own opinion, there are those that respect him and those that dont. Hitting a player shouldnt be tolerated but yes it is apart of the game. Lots of people hate Bonds, just the other day someone was telling me how Bonds agent Anderson is in prison and Bonds told him to give the drug to other players (Sheff and so on). Yet when I ask him if Bonds broke the record would he be mad he said no, everyone wants to see it happen, unfortunately for some it is inevitable and others it is a gift to see such a feat, drugs or no drugs as you can see right now Bonds doesnt always hit home runs. Personally its a shame to see all this hatred towards him, hes a good player and a statue will be built for him as the owner of the giants had noted in the TV show Bonds on Bonds for those who dont watch it. Anderson was his personal trainer not agent.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:54 PM) What is Fields' history? Has he always been a third baseman? It doesn't always work out trying to screw with a guy and move him around. If he's the real deal, obviously he or Joe will be traded. Field has always been a 3B as was Carlos Lee, Mark Tiexeirra and Jim Thome. A player can be successfully moved to a new position, it happens quite often. It's really not "obvious" that one will be traded especially considering how I believe he'll be playing LF for the Sox in '08.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) I don't think he deserved all the "s*** that was thrown at him." The guy was DOMINANT last postseason. We hadn't won a WS in about 99 years. Give the guy a break. If this is the start of something big, great. But look around baseball and you'll see a ton of starters that have been "inconsistent." Just because the team hadn't won a world series in 88 years doesn't mean every f***er on that team gets a free pass for life. Garland was less than impressive in August and September of last year, he was great in the playoffs but he also came out sucking this year. A near Century of suckitude does not give Jonny boy a free pass to be bad.

Haha, they showed that "dive" by Gomes in the opening montage of SportsCenter. What a joke.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) You are correct sir, thanks. Even if that is the reason in the first place, I still don't like it...5:15 Central Time start followed by a 1,000 mile flight home and a game at 3:05 the next day.....not cool. It's a 6:15 CT start.

I believe it's at night because it will be aired on ESPN.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) Vazquez gets by because he has been better than Garland. Period. Vazquez has only had 2 bad outings and if you want to go even deeper he's really only had 2 bad innings. Start 1: 2 KC Start 2: 7 TOR Start 3: 0 KC Start 4: 2 SEA Start 5: 0 CLE Start 6: 2 KC Start 7: 7 MIN 2 f***ing shutouts already, simply awesome.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:16 PM) Well how many of our starters besides Contreras would you say has been "consistent" this season? Garcia perhaps, but Buerhle, Garland and Vazquez have all had their bad outings so far this season, and those other 2 seem to get off scot free, Buerhle because he's proven, and Vazquez because everyone thinks he'll turn it aroudn naturally. Garland is the least proven of the 5.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:14 PM) That I agree with. However, I dont see the point on just ragging on Garland, especially after a game like this. He was our 18 game winner last year, and its amazing how quickly people have turned on him. He hasn't been very good for the past 3 months, I certainly think it's OK to be worried about him and post your concerns. A lot of people think his fast start last year was an abberation and to a lesser extent, I agree. The guy just has absolutely no consistency.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) Your right, he blows. Tonight was nothing to build on, and I expect nothing short of 8 ER next outing. Garland sucks. What was the point of that? He made a valid observation, you can't just take away outings when talking about a players consistency.

QUOTE(Felix @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:09 PM) Doesn't saying "besides the Twin game" sort of destroy any solid consistancy? Well if you erase 4 of his starts this year where he sucked, his ERA is a spectacular 3.18!!11

Yes, he says some incredibly random things that are relatively humorous, I enjoy that.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ May 17, 2006 -> 09:03 PM) In 4 out of his last 6 outings IIRC, he's only given up 2 runs or less. It's just a couple of bad ones which has his ERA inflated so much. So it's not like he's been pitching terribly all season long. Start 1: 9 KC Start 2: 7 DET Start 3: 1 KC Start 4: 3 SEA Start 5: 5 LAA Start 6: 1 KC Start 7: 7 MIN Start 8: 2 TB so, no.

What a stupid pointless thread.

w00t?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 17, 2006 -> 08:53 PM) What's Jenks throwing on the gun? Is there a gun tonight? 97-98

GAME

Walks are bad.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 17, 2006 -> 08:49 PM) LOL the Pistons are such b****es. They f***ing flop and wave their arms for fouls way too much. You've gotta take a f***in shot right there, praying you get a foul call is just beyond retarded.

Wow, that was pretty retarded by Rip.

Albert "god" Pujols is now strolling to the plate.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 17, 2006 -> 08:42 PM) Well, that won't be happening for a while now will it? Anywho...the move by the D-Rays actually makes some sense. If you'r enever going to be able to afford to hold onto free agents, you should stockpile your rookies in AAA, keep getting top draft picks, and then unleash them all within a year or two. That way you try to make your team as good as it can be before you start losing them all to FA. I never said it wasn't for the best, I just said it was a trend. It really does suck though that they're holding back such amazing talent, I want to see them now damnit.