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I want another guy to look at in case this doesn't go through/for leverage. You telling me we can't get Garza for a package like this?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 03:29 PM) yep. I was thinking about that the other day. Thanx. lol, so much easier to figure out which thing you're responding to than it used to be QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) Damn, greg. You didn't know how to do that? That's almost as bad as you not knowing Jason is the site owner. Who is Jason? Are you the site owner? Is this a Cubs website?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) Viciedo can frustrate the hell out of me, but when he starts raking you think he might be a superstar hitter someday. Maybe KW is frustrated by his approach and thinks he'll never make it big. I'd be scared to deal him for a rental, though. Very true. I'd go for that. That's bad. I want Johnson. Buehrle would be an awesome feel/good move as well. I don't know what benefit you get in giving up a guy who looks like he knows how to pitch (Q) for Greinke's 10 starts. I guess once again the Sox are trying to position themselves for a deep playoff run with Greinke, Sale, Peavy, Danks or Floyd being our postseason starters. Sox may feel it's worth the game. We could win a WS with that staff, however, the trick is getting there. Detroit after making that trade figures to run away and hide, which leaves us the Wild Card race and one game playoff if we make it. You must be so happy I taught you to reply in between the quotes in multi-quote posts

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 02:40 PM) Yeah, it's tough, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Sarah Kustok is leaving CSN as well. The times they are a-changin'. NOOOOOOOOOOOO

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) DKnobler‏@DKnobler White Sox still seem completely focused on trying to get Greinke. https://twitter.com/DKnobler/status/228585999918313472 The bold lets me know it's serious

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) And people like you are why the Bulls never do anything and are satisfied with being ordinary. Go to Boston, LA or even Dallas and tell their fanbases that Rip will be the difference between losing in the conference finals and getting to the finals and see what happens. That's like saying Dylan Axelrod being replaced by Gavin Floyd is ridiculous. Just because you're not replacing KEITH BOGANS with Jesus Christ Himself, does not mean that the addition of Rip Hamilton wasn't a big deal. It was and it was a good idea. He was actually healthy in the playoffs, by the way. Can't pin this s*** on Rip.

The vulnerability Miami showed in the run up to the Finals means we definitely had a chance. I don't know how much because there were probably just a handful of games we even had 4/5 starters at 100% and we played with 3/5 feeling good more often than not. We can't say what would have happened, but we definitely had a chance. If we can beat them at home with JL3 draining shots over LeBron, we can beat them in a series. It may not have happened, but it was certainly possible with how competitive some of those other series were.

What deadline did they put on the deal?

Hey guys, I had written up a nice long response about artificial sweeteners right as Comcast decided I didn't need internet anymore. As I switch to CenturyLink and spend more than usual amounts of time at Starbucks (like right now) I'm going to write a series of posts about sweeteners for my blog. I'll copy paste them here. Until then, drink away

In the "best case" that we resign Greinke, we've still traded minimum salary big contributors to pay a pitcher $20M+ for longer than we'd probably want to. This is my biggest gripe here. I'd rather pay Peavy 20 per for 2 years than Greinke for 6.

If Mark is worth taking back in four years, that's be something. I'd also take him back now with a bunch of money. Also, I'm still bitter that he's gone. I wanted him to be a Sox forever, he was my favorite. I've been trying to pretend he retired....the sportscenter will show me some fat guy wearing a Buehrle Marlins jersey

I like how unaccomplished the list of tax laying teams is. It's better to be another team's key injury away from winning it all than hoping that you can sign a big FA or draft the ext superstar or trade for a star without getting fleeced...doing all that while not winning. We have now a championship contender that is near cap flexibility which the other teams lack. The Heat, Lakers, Knicks, Nets, Thunder better hope that all of their core stays just as good and healthy or in two years they are f***ed. If something happens to our core, their contracts end by the time we can complain about it.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 11:58 AM) It happens a lot with the Sox. We have seen discounts given quite a bit. Our Organization takes care of players both during and after their career. And with the injury and other stuff with Peavy I think he is a kind of guy that wants to make up for that. Anyways here's some quotes from an article after the allstar game, from the sun times. “I can tell you this: I love Chicago, I love what we have as far as a team, from [board chairman] Jerry [Reinsdorf], to [general manager] Kenny [Williams], to the staff they brought in, and I can tell you this, this is as good a staff as I’ve ever been a part of. I can tell you this, I can’t see any more of an appealing place to play than Chicago. My comfort level with them knowing my body, my routine that I have, a routine we’ve gotten down, we understand, what we need to do to keep healthy, stay strong, so I can tell you that. I want to be here, but we’ll let the chips fall when they may when that time comes. “I do love Chicago, and when the time comes and we do have that conversation – if we ever have it – with Kenny and with the rest of the staff, I will let them know that I want to stay if I can stay. I would love to end my career right here [in Chicago]. We’ll see.’’ Here's the link pretty good read: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/13704613-419/story.html Bringing him back without breaking the bank would be huge. We'll see if he puts his money where his mouth and I won't blame him if he doesn't. And as I said in another thread, we won't be crying poor in the offseason if we make some sort of playoff run.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 10:37 AM) Brewers are interested in DeAza. Fuuu too much

All I can say is if we win, a bunch of money will start becoming available to keep everyone around.

1. The front office turned us from 8 seed to back to back 1 seed in one offseason, an offseason we "lost" by the way. We can debate the meaning of the 1 seed, but we were a title contender every second that Derrick Rose's ACL was intact. 2. JR remembers 1998-whenever the end of that run was and is not going to encourage the deconstruction of yet another winning team. He'd rather you pine for superstar number 2 while you have several star players on the roster than having to pretend that players like Marcus Fizer, Ron Artest, and an old Jalen Rose are franchise cornerstone players. I agree with that sentiment, too. 3. What good does spending into the luxury tax bring? More bench mob? I'm sorry but I agree with the FO that being unable to sign free agents and having inflated contracts with your bench players f***ing sucks. I believe the FO will spend into the tax when it comes to keeping key players around -- heck, what would you say if we paid the tax to keep Boozer on the roster? That's the type of s*** these other teams do and we'll do it too if necessary to stay competitive. I'm sick of smart posters losing their mind over spending as if the cap doesn't keep us from signing big FAs. Jerry opening the wallet right now would only keep our overrated bench players around. The instant we have players worth spending into the tax for, we'll do it. All those players are under contract now. Just keep the Ben Gordon contract situation in mind...was that cheap or savvy? You tell me. 4. Speaking of the bench and young players, let's talk about the youth or supposed lack thereof on the bench. CJ Watson and JL3 turned into Hinrich, Teague, and maybe Beverley. That position got younger. The 2 guard position lost Brewer and Korver, gained Belinelli and Butler. Replaced two players at their peak with two young guys with room to grow. Butler is also Deng's reserve, which amounts to about 5 minutes. Taj remains Taj. Omer becomes Nazr Mohammed, final we get older. It just isn't that easy to find a good, cheap reserve 5 and I think Nazr makes sense in that role instead of some NDFA that may cost us when Noah inevitably gets hurt. Scalabrine becomes Vlad Rad, who isn't much younger but at least has a useful skill. The last big man is likely to be Malcolm Thomas who must be you guys' dream come true as an NDFA. Let's just let it all play out and relax. This team isn't that bad, even minus Derrick Rose. We get in the habit of devaluing our players and staff. I'd love for us to make a splash but we didn't. I honestly can't blame a franchise for not going after Dwight Howard either, especially when he says he doesn't like you. Let that circus go elsewhere.

Excited for T Flow to get a little more time, he's looked better the last couple games. Maybe the thought that he'll get some more at bats reinvigorated him.

Not 2012, but a short film by Spike Jonze that I really enjoyed. A bit outside the box

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 10:33 AM) Do you think that pecking order is based on who the organization projects to be a more successful pitcher? Or are there more financial/political type considerations involved? They COULD and sometimes should, but I don't see much of a motive with Septimo vs Veal deal here. I think they just have an opinion of who is better or could be better and are going to let that play out. They very likely made some sort of promise to Leyson that they wish to keep.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) The organization has a pecking order for its pitchers, and Septimo is at the head of the pack. I'm not too upset...despite two bad outings from Leyson, if they really believed that he is going to stick as an MLB reliever it is too soon to give up on him. We can see Veal again by the time Leyson could fail beyond a reasonable doubt.

There is no bad, just the absence of good. But is that bad? A philosophical argument can now become a semantic one - go.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 08:07 PM) Sox will win the AL Central.

Joxer_Daly's idioms > all "rougher than a badger's arse"

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 07:33 PM) The obligatory "was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ? " yeah, where's this?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:36 PM) I've been drinking it basically just as an every day beverage. I seem to have difficulty with staying hydrated enough when I am home (I drink lots of water at work for some reason...maybe I should just pony up and get a water cooler . I don't drink soda or really much juice even, but don't really care for the taste of my tap water. Glad to hear it isn't going to kill me (at least to your knowledge). I hear you, I have to get pretty desperate to rally around some tap water. I try to have a few no-cal beverage choices around so that I will actually get enough fluids in me. Propel is one I like for the taste and mouth-feel that is waterish.