Jake

I agree that especially in this situation that a bunch of people standing to return fire could have made s*** VERY crazy. I would have wanted a gun on me, though. I don't know if I would have fired it right away for these reasons (riot helmet, kevlar vest, smoke in the air, darkness) but if I could get that shot in the neck/mouth region I would have taken it, but it would have required extreme close range. There's really not a lot you can do to prevent things like this. It wouldn't make me mad if you start making places more secure, etc. but the main thing you can do is try to keep people happy, connected to society, etc. but it will always be someone's right to disconnect. People that have some kind of mental problem will always choose to disconnect to some extent and bad things will happen, unfortunately. I don't know if him believing that there would be concealed weapons among the patrons would have deterred him because he was never going to think logically. It falls in the category of something like a natural disaster. You can take cover, check the weather channel, etc. but you might just be unlucky and get hit. That is the human existence.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 05:44 PM) I guess because he is now a White Sox you want to ignore the witnesses. There was more than one, and it wasn't like they were trying to take a professional athlete down, they had no idea who he was. If people now want to look the other way with this idiot because he's now on your favorite team, I suggest you quit watching sports for a while. Its affecting your judgement. And one question, if this was just an isolated incident where really nothing happened, why have they been going to counseling for years over domestic violence? Guys that hit women are losers. Brett Myers is a loser. I'm not about to get a beer with the guy, but the facts are very blurry in that particular situation and it is not clear to me that he is simply a "wife beater." Until someone can make that more obvious I'm going to assume that he's a f***ed up guy that is trying to get better. He made it sound in his statement like they both may have had a drinking problem. I hope a reporter asks him and/or KW about it because I'm interested in what is said. Chicago fans are right to be skeptical

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) OJ wasn't convicted of murder either. The Meyers case went exactly as most domestic abuse cases go. There is no excuse to hit your wife. I've had police try to convince my girlfriend that I hit her for no particular reason before so the "she was swollen at the time but didn't bruise" thing didn't fly with me. The description they gave of both being too drunk makes me wonder if it is as clean-cut as people would like it to see. I've seen a woman drunkenly batter a man physically and verbally and to think he won't retaliate in kind when super drunk is not as unreasonable as simple "wife-beater." But then again, both of us are speculating, aren't we? You're just eager to to pass judgment when the guy probably just got too rough while drunkenly arguing with his girl. He almost certainly made a bad mistake, but I can't be sure that it's as bad or simple as described and I don't think it is fair to convict the non-convicted in this case.

I've heard all the reports and I don't know what to believe. Nobody was ever convicted is all I know. I'll let the man play baseball and I assume KW asked around the clubhouse to see what kind of teammate he is.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 04:44 PM) i mean... is it anything other than sugar and water? gatorade tends to make crap products, but i haven't tried the prime before. It's a carb product, yes. I wouldn't advocate supplemental carbs for anyone except elite athletes or those on carb cycling diets. Food carbs = good if you want fuel though I'm just not big on wasting carbs on things that don't provide any satiety.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) That's surprising to me. Not that its a big loss. Who is going to be the long man? Might need one tomorrow. It was a no-brainer with Gavin coming up and the fact we burned him today. The better question is who goes when Gavin is activated. QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 04:46 PM) Santiago would be my guess. Bingo

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 04:29 PM) It's hard to tell how Sale was today without being able to see. Just a bad outing our was his stuff diminished... Any indication he is wearing down? One stupid pitch to Boesch. The rest was good, he was in control beyond that.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 04:17 PM) Boy when the Sox get in these funks they look like the worst team in baseball. Up and down up and down. Losing streaks suck. Every team has stretches like this. The better fans realize that their team doesn't suck.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 04:13 PM) You fix what you can and upgrading offensively in left and/or second should not be impossible. There's no f***ing way you're going to find someone that drives in more runs than Dayan, let it rest.

I'm happy we at least knocked Porcello out.

The better question is how much baseball have we watched to not understand the ol' Hawkeroo's adage..."it's not who you play, it's when you play 'em" The White Sox are the team to play right now because several hitters are slumping and we've had all kinds of injuries to pitchers. Let guys even out a little bit, play at home some, see what happens.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) I honestly have no idea what KW should do right now. The offense needs help but there's no one you flat out bench. I say go with what we have right now. Agreed. We have several players in slumps (some big, some small) QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 03:44 PM) Guess what guys: It's July 21st. Even if we fall out of place, we could be right back in 1st tomorrow. Oh, and you know what else? We fell out of first place once already this season and we got it back shortly after. Hell, this game isn't over anyway either. This. We didn't get here by fluke.

This is the day Soxtalk commits suicide

I was explaining Sale's pitching style to someone the other day, I mentioned that he throws a lot of really hittable pitches down the middle that typically get missed this one didn't

lol @ Youk's throw not sorry to have missed Soxtalk's reaction when we gave up the lead

I don't know if enough people will know about it.

This is a pretty savvy move. Seems like there isn't enough info for us to pass judgement on the wife incident, I'll trust KW to have done his homework.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 12:41 PM) f*** Detroit and f*** FOX

no account, can't read

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 08:29 AM) I can wait out Konerko, but the lineup needs to be adjusted. Konerko should be moved down in the lineup to 6th. Rios/Youkilis 3/5, Dunn 4, Viciedo needs a platoon partner ASAP. lol

The Sox are all professionals, and they know that these series 90 games into the season don't mean s***. You want to win every game against the Tigers and you'd like to always be in first place, but there's a lot of baseball ahead of us. "Biggest series of the season" is a tremendous overstatement with all of the games left to play. The guys on the team are just trying to win because wins are good, not because their fans get too worked up over every divisional game. They also know that there a few guys on offense not clicking, we're short two starters, and our bullpen is full of unfamiliar names. Some of that will change and the sky won't be falling anymore.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 20, 2012 -> 07:36 AM) i don't really care what you think man. My intent wasn't to really criticize, just wanted to hear the best of your side of the argument

It's not worth my trouble. If a business had something I loved yet promoted beliefs that are against me (they wouldn't like me as an atheist, for instance) I'm going to continue to shop there especially when the product is as unique as Chick-Fil-A. Seriously, there is no fried chicken that tastes like that. God has blessed them with holy Manna in their chicken breast. I will not abstain from it especially when they are willing to serve me despite my beliefs. I also take my business elsewhere on Sundays. What will affect my buying decision is the quality of product and quality of service. I like that my local grocer buys from local farmers, but the food is s***ty and expensive so I don't buy it. Sorry I'm not sorry.

Taking Q out was definitely the right move. He'd been skating on thin ice for a couple innings and he just isn't used to that many pitches. The mistake was who they brought in. QUOTE (northside sawx @ Jul 20, 2012 -> 10:10 AM) Your point is well taken fathom, and since thats the case, maybe A.J. is to blame? He is the one calling the pitches afterall. I dont care to look back at whether Reed missed his spot or not on that pitch (too depressing) but that ball was RIGHT in Ross' wheelhouse. Seems like Thornton is rubbing off on Addison in "throw it as hard as you can everytime, consequences be damned." AJ does NOT call pitches for the vast majority of our pitchers this year. It's Mark Parent. This, IMO, has led to some abhorrent pitch calling this season.

Peavy hit Quentin Berry and then gave up some singles. It sucks but it happened. We didn't hit well and Verlander is good. Our best hitter has been slumping for over a month. Dayan isn't exactly en fuego. Tomorrow we have Sale vs Rick Porcello and then we have Humber vs Jacob Turner...two very winnable matchups. Let's go boys! If we don't win this series, there's a ton of season left, nothing to freak out about. Very interested in KW's next move, if there is one.