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I'm not gonna stand here and listen to people tell me Chris Martin is a good producer. for one: per wiki 2007 "Homecoming" Kanye West Graduation Co-writer, featured vocals, piano 12. Homecoming (Ft. Chris Martin) Produced By - Kanye West & Warryn "Baby Dubb" Campbell he was the co producer for one awful song off a terrible album. For two he doesn't even produce coldplays albums. For three, he's something awful as a songwriter.

what does that mean

so this game is on?

jesus is Young still a congressman?

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 10:47 PM) This is such a bulls*** out of context accusation. I'm all about calling Limbaugh out for being a jackass, but 60+ seconds into the offending bit, its just bad satire, its not him being a blatant racist. no no, you're interpreting it wrong. He's not saying we need to protect white kids. The implication is that because of the "racism" that white conservatives see in Obama (talking points memo : Obama hates white people!) blacks think it's okay to beat up innocent white kids in this day and age. Because of our president.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 10:38 PM) Absolutely one of the finest public officials around. The knee-jerk reaction in blogland was to be disappointed that he kept a "Bush holdover" but it's not about that with him, the guy doesn't give a s*** about politics. Unfortunately I don't think he wants to stick around much longer. He's staying only because the president asked him to. He's been in the government since Ford or Carter, I forget which one, and he was pretty high in the Reagan administration and of course was Bush's DCI so it's definitely more than two presidents, Obama is more like his 5th. I might be wrong, but I believe in December there was reports that Gates was openly auditioning/asking for that job.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 10:24 PM) Oh, yes... I keep forgetting. Iraq is pointless. Christ you are impossible. The cries of blood for oil were in the run up to the Iraq war, where people were protesting attacking Iraq with little connection to 9/11. Actually it was none at all. And then it turned out no WMDs. It was NOT a slogan over afghanistan. It was NOT against taking out top Al Qaida officials.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 10:09 PM) Oh but when Bush killed people it wass "blood for oil". I see. Somehow, it's different? yes. Iraq war = counter terrorism.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 10:09 PM) Didn't he produce the track he's featured on on Graduation? pretty sure he didn't. Kanye got all the production credits with the exception of timbaland helping with the drums in stronger. He produced Jay's awful awful song though.

terrorists. More profiles should be done on gates. Guy just quietly does his job and doesn't give a s*** about looks. Oppo. of Rummy. I'm hoping Gates is a fixture for more than TWO presidents now (three?)

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 08:44 PM) Chris Martin is a great producer and known period. are we talking about the same guy?

Seriously. A small ball white sox team in this stadium is soo dumb. We don't have to play in the metrodome anymore. Get us back to a 200 HR team and with this pitching staff i guarantee we win 95 games.

so the heart of the story was correct and was TWO examples of GOVERNMENT needing to step in to get them treatment and we mock it...haha. awesome.

Tort reform Tort reform Tort reform! (tort reform) crickets....

Kudos to the flips, they weren't out of ideas.

in addition, the cold war is over.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 05:43 PM) IBD's poll is so s***ty its not even worth comment. For perspective, they're the same people that said Steven Hawking would be dead under government health care. No, better, they said if Stephen Hawking was British and subject to NHS health care his brilliance would not have existed.

tort reform: http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...h-care-bill.php I didn't really understand how this could be done federally, anyways, but yeah they giving state grants.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 04:58 PM) Why are they playing Boston songs? I know that was a joke, but don't look back is a series that All Tomorrows Parties festival did getting bands back together to play their most famous album (or just bands to play their most famous album). It's taken off and copied by others and it's become a phrase in itself. I'm not sure if Devo is doing a straight album, though.

A friend bastard roommate of mine went to Jamaica and came back with appleton estate rum. Being poor and in college we drank it straight. Kind of soured me on the whole thing.

Devo is doing a don't look back tour...wish I could go to a show.

It's amazing how mad conservatives get about water level regulation.

When that democrat georgia rep calls the all white gang of six racist, he's racist. When we point out that these "grassroots" protests are riddled with racist signs, we're racist. When the crazy right fringe questions obama's birth, the networks cover it legitimately, for some reason, for weeks. They call Obama hitler, they ask, what are the comparisons to Obama and hitler, they say he's a socialist, the 24-hour news cyclists ask if Obama is going too far left with his agenda, they call him a racist, they cover is he's a racist, and the entire time they cry about how the media isn't fair and doesn't understand them. WHAAAA hundreds of thousands protest world wide against the Iraq War. The media says, "Look at what the BUsh administration says the Iraqi's have. We must protect ourselves. Look at these generals we hired getting fed info from the pentagon as to why war is great!" It's the same, it's so similar.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 03:39 AM) That's just it, no one said there weren't any racists. There are racists on both sides. That was my point from the first post here. 90% of white people vote for the same person they have always voted for, that's racist. 90% of black people vote for a black person, its fine, because that's the party they have always voted for. Hell more GOPers voted for Obama than the did Clinton, Gore, or Kerry, and now they are racist. That's crap. Besides, remember the Tea Parties had next to no one at them, right? All of the sudden this is the entire Republican Party in the words of some. That is what I get sick of. And 2000 is a great example. Bush had all of those same things said about him, many times by people of the opposite party. He was called Hitler, anti-Christ, murderer, and pretty much everything under the sun. The difference is that back then it was socially accepted, and almost expected. Did you guys just black out 2000-2008 because it was painful? It was socially accepted? The anti war protests were not covered except as spectacle. The signs depicting bush as hitler were not analyzed on cnn as actual conjecture. You know what he wasn't called? Socialist, Communist, Marxist, too, because the loony left isn't completely retarded. You know why people who take time to view things at a level higher than elementary might think? Maybe blacks voting for democrats isn't so out there racist, because maybe the modern democrats didn't set out a platform in the seventies trying to win over racists and fight tooth and nail against civil rights progress. Is that racist to not embrace a party that within your parents lifetime tried to marginalize you? You guys are great at false equivalency. Here's one for you. The n word = cracker. They are both racial epithets!!!! Why does one have more power if they are both just, at face value, the same thing? Why is that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 03:19 AM) Just as much as racism played a part in Obama getting elected... he would have won with or without the small uptick in african american pop. voting. I mean, what I don't get is how you don't see that these dumb f***ing old white tea party protestors making racist signs, but, apparently aren't racist (just don't like demmycrats and deficits, i guess), are resorting to not opposition or pure villification, but rejection of legitimacy. Straight up Hitler signs I get, I mean it doesn't make sense, but hyperbole has always had it's place. Socialist, etc, fair game, whatever. But such a huge portion of this debunking him as our president. And don't equivocate this with 2000. That was the most contested election of our time, decided in a way it's never been decided before. So legitimacy of president makes more sense. But it's that he's not our President, he wasn't born here. He's not one of us, he's a muslim (all americans are christians). He's the anti-christ. What is that rooted in? Partisanship? Because if it's mere ignorance, then, they are adjacent fellows. And further I don't make threads everytime Saxby Chambliss tells that boy obama to be humble before the chamber. So much veiled language from southern republicans telling Obama not to be too uppity. But then you act as if we are calling Mike Pence racist for opposing Obama. We are looking at people doing completely ignorant bulls***, calling them on it, and then we're projecting because WE'RE racist. Right. I hate white people, that's a fact. I'm threatened by white people taking my jobs and moving in next door! I'm scared a white man might become president and give all the white people jobs! Because I'm RACIST