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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 08:50 PM) Would prefer him to be taken down with a Dem governor at the helm though. baha, jeeze Corzine just ran a spanish ad with Menendez.

Someone hilariously pointed out in the TPM thread that between Kreep and ORLY Taitz it's like Thomas Pynchon is writing the birthers story

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 09:09 PM) You guys realise that Jermaine Dye is a bad defensive right fielder, right? You guys realise that there are only a handful of worse right fielders, right? You guys realise that Bobby Abreu is in that handful, right? Ok, good. you realize a lot of him being mentioned has been for DH, right? Ok, good.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 08:09 PM) Must see TV!! They need a guest spot by the great Orly Taitz. apparently ORLY and that dude are in a feud.

Really wouldn't mind this taking down menendez.

One thing I might get made fun of for, but it still surprised me. The sun times did a piece where they bought a bar/restaurant and were going to see how much corrupt dealings they'd find in Chicago. They didn't find any except a tip from a government worker about how to avoid paying taxes on things. I think at the alderman level there is obviously rampant corruption, as seen by the # of indictments., but it's possible that there is much less "greasing" than we realize. Granted had they opened up a fake hospital it might be different story.

US Gov or gov in general?

Josh Marshall's take on what makes the Zazi case more intriguing Apples Oranges and Jihad

where is our power going to come from next year?

good players plz

Okay hollywood

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 10:08 PM) And no violent left wing protests took place during the Bush administration? Are you serious? PROTESTS! YOU THINK WERE MAD ABOUT PROTESTS!

Probably because during the nineties when Clinton was the anti-christ et al the following happened: Oklahoma City Bombing Numerous abortion clinics bombed and doctors murdered (including a web site of their names and addresses where their names were marked off when they were killed) and then as soon as Obama gets elected we have Tiller get killed. What are your examples?

Not sure if i posted this. http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/bush-torture Too long not to just link. Hell of an article.

and by the way, unless this dude was decomposing for 8 months, it was not well before any of the things we mentioned.

If people on this forum identified with Beck/Bachmann then maybe they should be offended. But otherwise to assume that because we are pointing out the crap they were spewing may have spurred a violent act we are condemning all republicans, and all conservatives, is just not showing the respect, or at least it shows indignant contempt, for the posters who have showed no such tendencies in the past. nobody is new here, we all know each other. Bachmann is saying really inciteful s*** to dumb people who might believe it. Beck as well. If you don't think this kind of speech has an effect on people, see mid nineties abortion clinic bombings. And THAT was from people with SMALLER influence than Bachmann AND beck.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 07:21 PM) I know you didn't SAY that but what's the next step in saying that "they're responsible" for whoever this f***tard was that killed this guy? That's more or less what you were (perhaps unclearly) perpetuating when you wrote what I repeated. when I write "It doesn't mean I want to throw them in jail for hate speech. But the voices who cry out against these lunatics should not be seen as illegitimate if stuff like this turns out to be true." Meaning, people should start paying attention and give legitimacy to the voices saying bachmann/beck are saying dangerous things, and you infer that what I'm saying that they should go on trial for this...that means you shouldn't infer things anymore.

Rio is beautiful. But they are gonna be running the BoP like crazy to clean up the favelas.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 07:16 PM) And then I said to you that IMO that's a pretty ignorant statement and a lot of how this hate crap gets thrown around and perpetuated. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA is that what you actually think you are writing when you write : Your hands typing and what you think you are writing are completely different. Where did I say that Glenn Beck and Bachmann should be on trial? I said the EXACT opposite of this. If you think hate speech can't fuel some nasty violence, check out Rwanda.

If "Fed" scrawled on his chest turns out to be a nickname, then I'll take it back. BUt a census worker being killed with "Fed" written on his chest while high profile politicians/media personalities are making patently ridiculous, false statements about the census program, it's not insane to connect the two. Did this murderer, if it turns out to be murder, act on his own accord? Yes. Would he have killed on his own? Maybe/probably. Should Bachmann/Beck continue to be called out for making incredibly ignorant, stupid, hateful and borderline inciteful comments? Yes, period.

kap, i don't understand what you read, if you read, who you argue against, what you are talking about...don't quote me if you are going to place my argument exactly the opposite of what I'm talking about.

The Beckists aren't really republican as much as just completely anti-establishment. Bachmann is republican, and talking about how census workers will kill us all. This part time census worker was just hung with the words "Fed" scrawled on his chest. The conclusion that this somehow might be related is not completely insane. The fact that kapkomet and other republicans seem to take us saying it is personally is. This man/woman who did this is insane. He/She is not rational. He/She is not you. It doesn't mean the hysterical rhetoric from Bachmann/Beck could not have fueled this murder. It doesn't mean I want to throw them in jail for hate speech. But the voices who cry out against these lunatics should not be seen as illegitimate if stuff like this turns out to be true.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 06:11 PM) "If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the census bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations, at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I’m not saying that’s what the Administration is planning to do. But I am saying that private, personal information that was given to the census bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up." - Michele Bachmann Well to be fair, in the 40's we were at war with the Japanese. And right now Obama is at war with white people, right?

god, never again please.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 06:03 PM) Teams like OU and Alabama had no interest in their games against Boise/Utah. Playing those teams are major letdowns in their minds. The mental aspect is huge in college sports. You think Alabama wanted to play some "mid major" team a month after losing their chance to play for a title? So of course there's a good chance you'll get a close game when one team is playing their Super Bowl and the other team is just there to get a free PS3. Sure Boise stands a small chance to upset a Florida/Texas/Alabama when neither team has played for 50 days. But winning one game a season (Oregon game) shouldnt give you the chance to play a school that has to go through a good conference for 8-9 games for a title. If Boise St wants that kind of respect then they need to atleast get in the Mountain West Conference. I just dont want to hear their fans crying when they go undefeated and 2-one loss teams are playing for the title. I'm sure the disappointment of playing Boise State is so large that they forget they are playing for the national friggen championship.