BrandoFan

Well that's for you to know and for me not to care about, isn't it? You motives and actions are your own responsibility. He stole 19 out of 21 in 2000, a rare year when he was healthy enough to play a full season. I probably should have taken into account 2001 hamstring-induced trips to DL and the fact that Sox became Solo Shot Wonders that year, with Manuel getting away from the whole "winning small-ball" thing as Roman noted...You shouldn't have f***ed around with me about the bet, it was easy 200 you coulda have. Of course I am right, there was no bet. Saving those additional posts and parts of the message you included on SoxTalk might go a long way toward clearing this mess up...The key word is might. . It was dropped before you even brought it up, my friend. The bet never took place and frankly I don't even care if you know it or not. I never bet, never have. Almost doesn't count--and that goes for "real world" as well. Don't be fooled- I am as stupid as I ever was...LOL Always paranoid, always on alert, aren't we? No miracle cure; back then it was called "being 18 and having a life".

That's the spirit.

pathetic. you really disappoint me dima. i thought you had more character than this. I do...why do you insist on me owing you money where I do NOT? At first I tohught you were joking with me this time too, but you are serious, aren't you? Reminding me of my ex too much and really scaring me. Can anyone say Bi-polar? Ok I am Voodoo, IDseer, Big_Hurt391 and whoever else you want me to be...Let's move on, K? I bet you forced the "confession" out of FWC the same way, didn't you?

pathetic. you really disappoint me dima. i thought you had more character than this. I do...why do you insist on me owing you money where I do NOT? At first I thought you were joking with me this time too, but you are serious about this bet money, aren't you? Is that your diss du jour nowdays? Nevermind how unsubstanciated and misplaced it is...

Who cares what I OFFERED...what part of "it was never finalized" is not clear to you? I offered IDseer numerous occasions to complete the bet, with numerous deadlines....he missed them all by trying to f*** with me thinking I wasn't serious....and now he want to get paid for a no-bet that took place almost 2 years ago? I don't.think.so. I'ts not about 200 either, who cares. This was the only (out of 4 or 5) post he actually saved, but even so the crucial part was "confirm very soon" which he didn't, though I am not so sure HE knows it. Takes more than silly post manipulations and omissions to besmearch my moniker, ID...lol

for your edification DIMA, here was the agreed upon bet: Posted by: DimaAl88 (244 Msgs) 8:38AM PST, Nov 13, 2001 Thread [27]: Original Message < Prev. Message in Thread | Next Message in Thread > It is obvious that me and you are operating in different modes of thinking when it comes to Jose. I look behind the stats, and you don;t. I want to propose a friendly bet of, say, $200 to be settled in Oct. 2002--should there be a season, of course. I bet you that Jose Valentin will put up the following offensive numbers or better, granted that he has at least 525 at-bats*. -.350 obp -25 hr -80 rbi -20 sb Ready to put some money where yor mouth is, idseer? You win if ANY of the four criteria are violated. *The deal is off if Jose is injured, traded, i.e unable to play...and don't forget to print this message out as proof should you take this bet. I expect the answer very soon. email is [email protected] 525 at bats or bet is off i answered and you know it. now you renege. tha fact is, dima, i wouldn't have asked for the money in fact. it was good enough knowing your hero jose wasn't all that. i hope everyone else here sees you for what you are tho. a quick mouth ... little substance. Like I said there is a portion/additional post(s) missing....nice try though, that's what you get for not agreeing to the bet prior to expireddeadlines...which again you conveniently leave out. Where are they? Next.

Nah, just the really, really stupid-funny stuff...which you supply with vigor.

what other name do i know you by? Wha? I recall you toying with me on the bet, changing 'no' to a 'yes' numerous times until I gave you 3 or 4 different deadlines all of which you missed...so what the f*** are you talking about, 2 years later I was me who "contacted" you, 'member? i thought it was you. and you're a weasel, just like i said. you make a bet, and when it's apparent you're going to lose you never show up again on the troll board. i still have the original post, deadbeat, and we had agreed on everything. kid yourself ... kid others ... don't kid me. i KNOW better. Kid who? I don't care about what "evidence" you have compiled/re-edited, I never denied who I was or that there was a talk of a bet, ID. But you and I both know the it was never finalized, that's the price you pay for changing your mind and talking from both sides of your mouth...You missed the deadlines....Leave the boreds becuase you measly 200 bucks? Puhlease...get over it and yourself. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh there ya go fighting with yourself again. I thought I was Voodoo...now I am IDseer, too?

what other name do i know you by? Wha? I recall you toying with me on the bet, changing 'no' to a 'yes' numerous times until I gave you 3 or 4 different deadlines all of which you missed...so what the f*** are you talking about, 2 years later I was me who "contacted" you, 'member? i thought it was you. and you're a weasel, just like i said. you make a bet, and when it's apparent you're going to lose you never show up again on the troll board. i still have the original post, deadbeat, and we had agreed on everything. kid yourself ... kid others ... don't kid me. i KNOW better. Kid who? I don't care about what "evidence" you have compiled/re-edited, I never denied who I was or that there was a talk of a bet, ID. But you and I both know the it was never finalized, that's the price you pay for changing your mind and talking from both sides of your mouth...You missed the deadlines....Leave the boreds because of measly 200 bucks? Puhlease...get over it and yourself. Again with the insults....it was ME who "revealed" myself to you in the Mariah thread, Sherlock...whatever.

Not to be all insufferable cliche-y about it, but that's LIFE goddamn it...highs and lows, no escaping that. The only tihng is how you deal with each, you seem to be better than OK, at least better than some people I know...which of course not to say this hasn't been taxing physically or that it won't leave some emotional scars---that the price you often pay for 'fun'--but at the end it was worth it bet t say nothing of the whole 'self-improvement as a result' angle...

what other name do i know you by? Wha? I recall you toying with me on the bet, changing 'no' to a 'yes' numerous times until I gave you 3 or 4 different deadlines all of which you missed...so what the f*** are you talking about, 2 years later I was me who "contacted" you, 'member?

LMAO!!!

Wha? I recall you toying with me on the bet, changing 'no' to a 'yes' numerous times until I gave you 3 or 4 different deadlines all of which you missed...so what the f*** are you talking about, 2 years later?

DUde id b**** slap you before you ever walked in the door........... Way to blow my cover, bro....I had Roman set up....f***!!!!!!!!!! As far as "b****-slapping me goes", I intend to make it to the Cell one of these summer nights...why don't you come- don't worry Maury and Killa will protect your ass. Ummm come to a Houston game if you want your way with me......... Houston? You were a Chicagoan all this time...how convenient. Uh, I havent lived in Chicago in YEARS. WTF?!

Don't mention it.

DUde id b**** slap you before you ever walked in the door........... Way to blow my cover, bro....I had Roman set up....f***!!!!!!!!!! As far as "b****-slapping me goes", I intend to make it to the Cell one of these summer nights...why don't you come- don't worry Maury and Killa will protect your ass. Ummm come to a Houston game if you want your way with me......... Houston? You were a Chicagoan all this time...how convenient.

Keep your dorkisms to yerself, 2M. Besides, I am not a "tough-ass wannabe". I could be one if I wanted to.

DUde id b**** slap you before you ever walked in the door........... Way to blow my cover, bro....I had Roman set up....f***!!!!!!!!!! As far as "b****-slapping me goes", I intend to make it to the Cell one of these summer nights...why don't you come- don't worry Maury and Killa will protect your ass.

I f***ING TOLD YOU HAD NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, B.....I am glad you're OK.

Gotta finish X-Men 2 and Matrix: R tonight...Thank Allah for eMule!!!!!!!!!! Metallica, Lars...go eat s***.

I was referring to our two insiders, Steff and HotSoxChick...I couldn't care less what you think of me, ol' boy. I do like you very much as a poster. You're very intelligent. If only you could fix your keyboard as to allow you to capitalize, that's the only annoying thing about you.

Nah, I'd still go with "all you could muster" theory....to get the benefit of the doubt you'd have to earn it first. The key word is "akin"....Another almost as key is "'t'was a jokey-joke", albeit not without a fair amount of truth in it. Bear in mind.

I'd rather see VisiGoths overrrun this countrey than to see you or your f***ed up ilk in any kind of position of power. Well, you can be a great comedian- sorta like the male version of Anna Nicole Smith, delighting everyone with your unaffected, totally self-conscious-free life...you're HI-lariousssssssss, I swear.

big hairy deal! i know a few 'charming' people who are also dopes. forgive me if i doubt what you think about FT's intelligence. i've seen too much evidence to the contrary. Why are you so dismissive and disrespectful toward two of the best posters SN or any board has ever seen? If you can't see the difference between a "stupid" person and the one who is an occasional "whiner-egomaniac", it's too late for you to learn. It's not like we are arguing such touchy subjects as team leadership (I know you don't believe in it) here, just eloquence and charm.

Roman is the greatest poster ever....you can't fake that kind of gut-busting s***, lololol