BrandoFan

..with a still respectable 760+ OPS, solid defense and EXCELLENT running skills that translate to, among other things, I dunno -- KEY 2-OUT RUNS SCORED FROM 2ND ON A SLOW BASE HIT.

Oooh...Maggs just failed to score from second on a 2-out single because he got a bad jump on the ball.....yeah great baserunning skills are so easy to come by, scoring from 2nd is soooo easy... Or maybe it's not easy afterall, eh?

Why wasn't "bi-hourly" on the option list? Just sayin'.

Wig' n' makeup?

Chill out man! Im watching on gamecast. It doesnt say Val hustled his butt off and took a base, all its says is what I said. If youre so perfect you try doing the updates! alrighty then (Shame you couldn't make it to the television set on a such beautiful day.)

Shouldn't it read "Val advances to 3rd on a ridiculously shallow pop up to LF"? Like I said, no credit whatsoever. Ever.

One of the smartest statements I have EVER read, transcends the world of sports.

After sounding the alarm bell practically after the first KC series and taking some heat for being "too negative" on these boards.....I have been strangely positive ever since, especially after Minnesota series in which we got swept, but could have easily--familiar refrain, isn't it---taken 2 out of 3. We are healthy (knock on wood) and are FAR from out of it. GO SOX, WOOOO!!!!

Jo. Mauer has been promoted to Twinckie AA affiliate. Perhaps Rex was right afterall in that he is better than Reed at this point. Who knows.

Blablabla-backhandedhubriscakes The only reason why I "excuse" a rare baserunning mistake is because 1) you never give Jose any credit on his numerous great baserunning plays and 2) you clearly misjudge the simplest of plays, so I wonder if you even saw them from "first row". Lee f***ed up TWICE - he should have caught the crucial pop with RISP and another linedrive his slowass barely tracked down was IN HIS f***ING GLOVE before it fell on the grass--again with RISP late in the game. That's 2 runs Calros f***ed up (kina like Jose infamously did in Cleveland, remember? No error afterall...) and nobody is crying foul. Rios has TERRIBLE range and 2 more runs ended up scoring as a result in 2 plays he should have made. Plus the Graff/Hurt thing......That's only ONE f***ING GAME and yet it is Jose who supposed to be this unbelivably bad defensive player this season, something you feel your duty to (incorrectly) point out almost every time? Unreal and ironic stuff.... So you goddamn right I am gonna stand up if you're gonna call someone a butcher, you will get statistical, empirical and otherwise comparisons EVERY time because I, unlike you, actually back my claims up, always have. Too bad you can't deal with the fact that Crede, Gaff, Konerko, Jimenez, Lee, Rios (on the Sox only....Tejada, Garciappara, Furcal, Guzman among many others couldn't carry Manos jack this season on D.) have been worse defensive players than Val and have led to a TON MORE runs than him. 4 is the magic number and it's that because I did you a favor and added a non-error run in Cleveland.... But hey I must have some "bias" against Lee and Jiminez and Rios, right? I mean why else would I bring up their f***ups if only to deflect attention from the real culprit, Manos....Never you mind the fact that I have defended all 3 with much ardor and dilligence in the past...Say, when was the last time YOU said anything positive about Jose? I thought so, hypocrite. . Oh, please you'r blind- Jose seemed to almost STOP around the second base (invalidates the selfishness theory) before realizing that the throw was dropped/missed ; his only mistake, in retrospect a big one, was not seeing the second cutoff guy backing the play up. It was a 3rd or 4th inning and we were up 1-0 at that point for crying out loud....What "could have cost us a game" are you blathering on about? Rois cost us two runs with 2 plays he couldn't make, ditto for Lee and another by Hurt/Graff....and YET IT IS JOSE WHO ALMOST RAN US OUT OF THE GAME?! Sox should have won 6-2 if it weren't for our defense. I was going to take justified shots at your baseball knowledge (seeing how many stats, facts and obvious plays you miss/forget) in this paragraph, but you're not worth it anymore. Feel free to tempt me with your "objective" assessments of Val's f***ups. You're on IGNORE, CW/buddy/Jamal/whatever you prefer to be called.

Great points as always in defense of one of my favorite current White Sox players Jose Valentin. However..... even I realize that JV trying to stretch a double all the way into a triple was careless baserunning. The ONLY way he's safe on that play is if the relay throw in totally f***ed. The relay throw could have been somewhat offline and JV still would have been out. He was out by 10 ft. as was. 1. Killa, I wouldn't need to defend Jose's otherwise mediocre season if arrogant, leering prick bashers would just f***ing get over their prejudice and not put their foot in their mouths with as much gusto. 2. The only everyday player who have arguablty been better than Jose in defensive +/- are Ordonez and Olivo and even they f***ed quite a few times that led to runs. HOWEVER to know that one would have to look beyond/into the numbers, and most people stubbornly refuse to do that. Whatever. 3. Jose has been the best baserunner on this team this season. Do you think his 31 runs scored despite a bad OBP is a coincidence? I can't believe he gets crucified over one mistake, he was trying to give the Sox the runner on 3rd with 1 out in a tied game which is commendable since Graff and Hurt were mired in a 0-10 slump prior to that point as soon as he saw the cutoff throw was missed, it's one of those times the gamble didn't pay off. Do I need to bring up how many times he made a great play while BR? Who is oc***ing, right?

Winning divisions doesnt mean s*** to me if your team isnt built to win it all. Its just a tease, even in the best of seasons. I am sorry but this is crap: in 2000 we could have swept the Mariners just as easily as they swept us. We simply had one error more and 1 clutch hit less than them and at the end it made a huge difference. We certainly DOMINATED Seattle in the regular season, so drop all this knee-jerk, inferiority complex BS. Not saying we would have necessarily pulled a Angels2002 on MLB's ass, but we were a pretty good team back then, a team that actully played up to its potential without any reservations.

Show some more transparent bias why don't you, CW? Jose makes a dozen good/great running plays this year-- including steals, runs scored on shallow pop ups, extra base taken on ball in the dirt or on singles, etc---and you say nothing....yet should he make a rare miscalculation (the ball missed the cutoff guy but for some reason Jose didn't see another one backing the play up) once in a while, trying to give Graffy a runner on 3rd with 1 out in the 3rd inning, you are ALL OVER his case. Example: When he gave Frank a double as a gift in LA (a dropped liner to Jordan in RF with Jose motoring from 1st to 3rd with 1 out, simultaneously allowing Frank to move into 2nd and Sox to bring the run home on a perfect would-be DP ground ball by Maggs), noone said a word....Wow Meanwhile: --Frank and Graffanino gave SD an extra run. I don't care whose fault it was since I have no bias against either--unlike you and Manos. --Jimenez almost brought his run-caused defensive total to double digits (by comparison Jose has 4 including that Cleveland game). --Lee causes not one but TWO runs with a lousy slide on Burrough's pop up as well as on a deep line drive that he dropped a few innings later. That's HALF of Jose's total but in ONE friggin' gamre. --Rios played a TERRIBLE cf, couldn't cover neither the gap on Loretta nor the shallow field on another hit. No errors but the runs scored that even Rowand probably would have prevented. Yet no mention again. Speaking of butchery defense this season....Jose is 5th in the majors in DP/innigs played...has 1 error in his last 20 starts....and has fewer of them on the season than Berroa, Furcal, Lopez, Infante, Woodward, Tejada, Garciappara, Renteria all of whom he is killing in ZoneRating and DP/inn.

Firing a minority is a sin.

LMAO...the memories When BereHere asked that question, I nearly died. "Ugly here"?

Oh, that HOF plaque thing is classic now, wait until I do that for real in fifteen years. White Sox fans will tell their grandchildren how the legendary Sox fan and former Marine stole SamME Sosas HOF plaque. It will be in history books. Ill be on Sportscenter and Ill get huge endorsement offers sent to my jail cell, or if Im really good to my house cuz I wont ever be caught... Run, Rowwwmaaan....run!

Yeah, but it's precisely these kind of lows that will make future moments of happiness and bliss even better. If anything, this whole affair proves you are human and have lived through all shades of emotions and experiences, all enriching in their own way. How many people can say they've had as much fun as you have with the b****? Did it end well? No, but it was definately worth judging from how you describe it. And it paves the way for something much better even if you're too stressed out to even think about rebounding...it's darkest right before dawn, remember? Suffer a little bit now (pain is good for you, both cathartic and character-building), then come out of it like a playoff team comes out of its slump- with authority and style.

Lets see. I talked to her on the internet every single night for hours, for over a year. there are many emails, there are many IMS. There is a guy at work that i used to hang with that has seen her here. Im sure she has saved some of my text messages. As far as work, I really didnt leave any witnesses there, but i said things in private. I made several mistakes. Im sure we can all remember times we went through rocky breakups. Im human, sometimes u lose control of your emotions and words. Im a jackass and im paying for it. 1. As long as those text messages didn't have "I am gonna rape you, f***ing whore and that cocksucker [name of the said boss] won't have the balls to stop me!" type statements, you should be fine. Your private correspondence, even if traced back to you, is your business and noone else's. What do you have to be afraid of here? I am sure you have as much of incriminating evidence on the b**** as she has on you....Don't let her walk all over you. She can't get you fired without f***ing up herself, especially if she hanging out with suspected criminals and drug addict scum just to get back at you. 2. I don't get your "woe is me" attitude. I may not have had a serious breakup track record, but from the looks of things you have had a great run full of passion and delicious conflicts...for a FULL year, and then were good friends after that. That sounds like my first 3 relationships, all teenage ones. So what's the problem? She is not your soulmate afterall? That's tough, but this is the way you should look at it: YOU USED HER if anything else and since everything great must come to an end sooner or later, thank heavens for not getting stuck in a marriage with her....No, instead you are wiser and mentally healthier than before, full of great memories...Move on and seek a more fulfilling tryst/relationship with a much better girl. You living well and actually improving yourself as a result of this mess will indeed be the best kinda of revenge. No doubt about that.

I strongly advise you against implementing this dating policy just because of some nasty ex incident, you are placing superficial limits on your search for happiness by doing so- who knows you may meet a wonderful chick on your job, like, TOMORROW......HOWEVER, you do need to be more in control of yourself- you mentioned something about "saying things I shouldn't have as a boss", right? Well, make sure you do not give people, coworkers or not, any ammo like that in the future, do not set yourself up like that. It doesn't mean you should paranoid in the future, just more a bit more prudent and less tempestuous. Then again you probably already know that all too well.... What kind of "things" are we talking about anyway? She has no right to tape you afterall, so how could she have any evidence of something you might have said/done in the moment of passion? Does it directly affect your job? If not your boss shouldn't have even let her speak...

Great, should I ask to see the picture of Your Hotness, I get nothing....Sigh.

Is there anyone in this world who doesn't love Roman? He could make a toughest SOB drill instructor break down and gigle like a 6yo girl...I swear. His HOF plaque thing was an instant classic.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you? When, 5 years ago?

What is this Brando? Hey do you like big ass too? I can send ya some pix of Brazilian girls, with a big and beautifull ass. LMAO...keep your pictures, I always prefered to deal with a real thing. My third g/f was 'Rican-American and I still have fond memories of...well, I am sure you know. As far as Brazilian mamas go, they will have to wait until at least later this year, 2004 for sure, all the good things come to those who wait as you know. Its not that I am obcessed with real 'donks...it's that I am positively anti-bonies. There are other qualities that override that of course--and my current caucasian g/f is certainly on the very skinny side---but there is something to be said about big butts. You wanna start?

OT: The rumours of J-Ho's Magnificent Popa are greatly exaggerated. She has lost a lot of weight since her In Living Color days and her ass is merely "wider than Hollywood average" now. Everything else just optical illusion multiplied by hype....Of course, compared to the likes of Lara Flynn Boyle and Brittany Murphy, she is definately trunkin'. Sorry, but most of those real chicks in 'Rio have ASSES J to tha O to tha K to tha E would be green with envy of. It's no wonder both Naomi Watts and Nicole Kidman often frequent LA stripclubs just to enjoy those Brazilian imports and learn the art of ass-shaking.