YASNY

After aboz has his ....ummmmm.... discussion with KW at Soxfest, can we bury the Jeremy Reed thing? Who am I kidding? .... Everytime he goes 2 for 4, I'm sure it will be mentioned on Soxtalk. Carry on.

For those of you who didn't visit the Twins site, there was one post I thought was very interesting by fearthewhitesoxb**** (great handle!).

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 12:40 AM) Yep, I hear that. I like the fact that the enemy views him as a major asshole, but it's his work ethic that I'm not so sure about. Time will tell. I'm definitely excited, though. AJ getting non-tendered and then having to take a $1.25 million pay cut may have gotten his attention. He comes in here and turns out to be a royal pain in the ass, he'll cut his future earning potential by multi-million dollars.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) What if he has another year like last year. What would you do with him? I A lot depends on how well the team is doing. If we are in contention despite a poor year from Crede, I'd try and bring in a stopgap guy. If this new team assembled by Kenny goes down the tubes, I wouldn't mind keeping him around to try and get him straightened out. He showed too much talent in the minors for him not to have the skills.

I think Crede will have a good year this year. I know I'm in the minority with that opinion, but I just think he'll be fine.

Well, since this thread says "Comisky" and ther was only ONE Comiskey Park ..... 1. Rooftop shot by Greg Luzinski off Oild Can Boyd. 2. Dick Allen CRUSHED a ball to the back wall of CF bullpen. 3. Opening Day '74 and '75 ... just cuz it was opening day. Edit to add: 4. Bobby Thigpen breaking the single season save record in 1990.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:22 PM) Pre-9/11, I mailed a burger back to Burger King that wasn't "My Way" -- First I left it to rot in my buddies cooler, which he had left in the clubhouse at our summer job. So after about a week, I put the once-bitten burger in a shoe box, wrapped it nondescriptly in brown paper, eclosed an explicative filled note, my reciept which specifically read "plain" and shipped it back to the store which I purchased it from. -- About 2 weeks later I got a voucher in the mail good for $10 at any Burger King in the nation. -- Incedently, that location no longer prints it's adress on the reciept. Now that's what I call a very creative and unique form of letting them know you were an unhappy customer. I salute you.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Pilots have said it is about the same as if someone flashed their brights at you in a car. Their worry, at least the two that I heard interviewed was that the laser was part of an aiming device and a missle was coming next. That is what pissed them off, and it would me also. What I object to is the Patriot Act was to fight terrorism. This clearly wasn't an act of terrorism, just a Dad showing off to his daughter. F That's the key. There are, I'm sure, other laws on the books they could use to prosecute this guy. Laws that do not preclude this US citizen's right to a fair and speedy trial, the right to have an attorney, so on and so forth. This Patriot Act was passed off as a tool needed to fight terrorism, but in reality it the beginning of the whittling away of the US Constitution.

To whom it may concern, I want to offer an across the board, so to speak, apology. I, in no way, considered the discussion between jackie and I as a battle royale. In my eyes it was a lively discusion between two people with differing opinions. And, may I add, a discussion I was enjoying while in progress. However, I saw that most perceived it as a battle and for that I am truly sorry. To jackie, If you felt you were under attack in any way, shape or form, I offer a personal apology to you as well. That was not my intent. Sincerely, YASNY

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 7, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) But KW isn't going to say the odds are good. Then he'd get plastered by the fans and media if they failed to land him. I think he just wants to remain koy on the whole issue. You dont' want the agent to think he's desperate or anything along those lines. We'll see what happens, but I think Cora is the backup plan. I agree. There is no way KW says things look good, until the ink is drying on the paper.

It's a shame to read KW describing the chances of signing Iguchi as "remote". As with AJ, we'll have to wait it out and see what happens.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Pfffttt... YOU would have cost us an additional $50K. Not really. I was too lazy to make the other keystroke ($2.25 vs $2.3) so I just rounded up.

Twins fans must be loving this move. LOL

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) Well the first paragraph is about how I feel about Willie though I don't think Iguchi will be all that great. The 2nd paragraph is all over the place. I highly doubt Willie will be leading off. I hate people thinking Scott Pod would be hitting 9th, even his 04 is good enough for 7th on this team, but that's not that point. If Scott Pod had a decent year he wouldn't be hitting 9th either. How can he have a decent year and be hitting 9th on this team? Podsednik is the type of player that should either bat lead-off or ninth. That is using the 9th slot as kind of a second lead-off hitter. You don't always put your weakest hitter in the ninth spot. Sometimes, they go in the 8 spot and you put a speedster in at number 9.

Ok... f*** it. I'm gone. I don't want to ruin Soxtalk for others. If that's the way it's being percieved, I apologize to all. I'm out.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) wow lock this thread asap and throw it away.... its amazing how only a couple people ruin good threads all i have to say is The way I see it, this is a discussion and not a battle. Just saying.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) You're pretty sure I'm prejudiced, aren't you? You ask a leading question -- if I say what the term means, you'll say 'Look how bigoted you are', even though it's not my point of view. If I say that I know people in trailer parks are heterogeneous, you'll say that I'm not answering your question. I'm not going to play 20 f***ing questions in your effort to prove me a bigot. Either put up evidence or shut up. I know what's meant by the term, and I know it's wrong, and all I've done is agree with you that it shouldn't be used. Meanwhile, you go and say that "jap" isn't really offensive. Since that's the only disagreement, how about that being the discussion? I'm not going to turn your words back on you. In fact, I'll give the stereotypical image of trailer trash. It generally means poor, white ... usually Christian ... people. I can accept your point that "Jap" can be considered offensive. I can also see where it can be used in a non-offensive manner. Here's the crux of my entire arguement. Anytime someone uses anything that can be considered offensive to any race other than white Anglo-Saxons people generally get all up in arms about it. Yet, when a term such as trailer trash gets used, which is stereotypically discriminatory towards white ... maybe southern ... poor people, nobody says s*** about it. As proven by the fact that I was the only one to call it as it is until you had to concede the point to make yours. I just get tired of people overlooking obvious discriminatation unless it's against a minority or foreigner in this country. Hell .... people are more tolerant of discrimination against ... 1. Whites ... 2. Christians .... 3. Southerners ... than any other race, creed, sexual preference or whatever. The fact that you jumped on the "jap" thing and not the "trailer trash" thing reinforces my point.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:00 PM) Maybe he's just giving his knee as little stress as possible, the more rest the better. It doesn't mean he NEEDS the crutches. I saw Maggs 1 week after his surgery last year walking around downtown 2 blocks from my job without crutches, 3 weeks later he was back on the shelf, for the season. Point? Apparently what he looks like he can do and what he actually can do are not the same thing. It will be interesting, Boras sure is sticking his neck out for him. Don't forget ... Maggs has had another surgery since then.

QUOTE(babybearhater @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:50 PM) The Dodgers are negotiating with free agent Esteban Loaiza. They only plan to sign him if the Shawn Green trade goes through. The arrival of Loiaza would leave just one rotation spot for Edwin Jackson and Kazuhisa Ishii, assuming that Brad Penny is healthy. Jan. 6 - 11:42 am et I beat them with that news by 5 hours in the rumors thread.

QUOTE(babybearhater @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) I've said it before and I will say it again. My cousin lives across the street from Mags in Burr ridge, he was seen not too long ago still using crutches to get around. if he is ready for a workout, I will eat my season tickets. f*** the cubs..they wont get him anyway, wait till houston loses beltran and offers that money to mags so that Clemens can stay. LMAO ... Well, maybe some of us do "have a clue".

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) My bad, I guess you were the only one who said something like that. I read through quickly, and I noticed that "trailer trash" had been answered. Still, I didn't have anything to add to your original post, so why should I simply parrot that? Meanwhile, lots of people did defend the use of "jap". They made it sound like an innocent shortening, as if all shortened versions of ethnic/national names are perfectly harmless. That's not true. ("s***", for example.) Some ("Brit", "Aussie") are fine, but we all know "s***" is not cool, and at least I know (apparently I'm the only one) that "jap" is offensive too. So I addressed that. What are you really arguing here? I agreed with you immediately that "trailer trash" is offensive, after all. In another thread, you suggested that "jap" isn't offensive. If that's your point, why not state that? I said I'd either STFU or ask you a question ... Here's my question ..... and this will get to the nitty gritty of what I'm driving at. What do you think of when you think of "trailer trash" ? ... and give me the works ... race, religion, etc. Bear with me here.

None of us has any clue as to how healthy Magglio is. Things do look suspicious because he cancelled the workout at the winter meetings, but any team that signs him will have the right to give him a physical before the contract becomes effective.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) What part of "I agree that 'trailer trash' is offensive" is not clear to you? I already answered this. Lots of people in the thread already pointed out that "trailer trash" is offensive. I had nothing more to add to what they said. Those same people came up with rationalizations of "jap". I did have something to add here -- even though it may have been innocent enough in intention, it should not be acceptable to use. So I said that. Of course, I already posted this answer, so do you want to ask me a third time? Ok... I'll give that. You did say "trailer trash" was offensive. Show me someone besides me or you that did. If you can, I'll STFU. If you can't, then I have a question for you.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) Okay, wtf. Since I was young, I knew that "Jap" is a racist term. I point out that, maybe it was a simple mistake, so I'm not saying anything should be done in this case, but it should be stopped, just like we don't allow "chink", "dago", and "mick". That's all I said. I just wanted that to be made clear, and I did not intend to hijack the thread. But so many so treasure their ability to use an offensive term, that I end up arguing constantly that "Jap" shouldn't be used. I can't believe this s***. If you'd tell me why you were so much more offended by the use of the term Jap, and not offended by "trailer trash" to the point that you jumped all over it, I'll let it go.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) Oh, crap, I didn't know he was actually sending his message from an aircraft carrier in the Pacific in the 1940s. Sheesh, I assumed he was alive today and sitting at a f***ing computer somewhere. How silly of me. I'm so sorry. Now ... Who's insinuating what?