Princess Dye

Nice Contreras, way to recover

Hawk's "ok!" ha

Stoney and Beckett have something in that they aim for behind the Left shoulder, just different people Great play. Josh looks great this year at the plate.

Horrible horrible.

Big risk there, nice turn of fate!

I dont think most fans care at the present time. The only way of course that will happen is if the players have some spat over it. I doubt it happens, Pods has a lot to prove and wont want to rock the boat. Do we know if he cares about the #? I see he had it with Colorado

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) The Nats don't want to trade Milledge. Obviously for the right price they would, but I have been hearing this is more an attempt at a wake up calll for Lastings to get his act together. They have so many holes that maybe they accept two young players. What would be a 'reasonable overpay' from our end, if that makes sense. A deal where we give up too much, but at the end of the day we're like "hey we got a CF leadoff hitter, this is what it took" Egbert as part of it? Wow, Charlotte pitching is almost all atrocious here in the earlygoing.

If Pods is seen to be real slow in Charlotte though, he'll stay down there. At absolute worst they would prefer Owens as a pinch runner if no one can do anything. Although I guess Lillibridge covers that for them when Getz returns. Maybe Pods could be a 4th OF but if so they better make sure BL can play centerfield

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 09:11 AM) Wow, Michael Kay is an even bigger jackass then i thought. http://subwaysquawkers.blogspot.com/2009/0...her-is-not.html Seriously. God forbid anyone in the MLB has actual fun while they're out there. Them coming back at Swisher with a pitch inside the next day is total crap seeing as how they had the huge lead when he was out there. I'm glad he stuck it back to em with a HR to follow.

Dobrow's Power Rankings on CBSsports (which I found about on the Score yesterday, they're great)..... indicates he's below average as a CF

Of those who feel Brian hasnt been given a fair chance, do you feel like he would be able to turn it around this year with a full year? Someone who was posting about this seemed to be hinting that Brian's developmental time has been ruined and now b/c the Sox ruined him, he will never be able to turn it around.

These boards could get really interesting if Beckham tears up the minors the whole first half. The debate will come down to arb clock savings vs. winning now and in addition to maybe winning now, Beckham would get to know AL pitching this year as opposed to on the job next yr.

It's amazing how Ozzie really does read those emails. We keep getting evidence of this. Joe Cowley was saying the other day on the Score that Ozzie sometimes prints out the emails and laughs w/ media people at the proposed lineups he's sent.

Under that circumstance, Fields would be giving up his number to a leadoff guy with a career .337 OBP I know thats not all that goes into it, but just looking at it that way would make it one of the more embarassing number-give-ups of all time.

Pods hit .264/.340 vs. righties last year if it wasnt mentioned already

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:02 PM) And ironically enough; Lawrence Holmes was one of the more vocal Wise detractors. Well I wouldnt expect that to be ironic at all as he's a knowing baseball person. The people on here are all knowing. I have some serious doubt that everyone booing at the stadium had that amount of perspective. I guess we wont know one way or the other. It's interesting to me that some here say this would easily happen at Wrigley but not at US Cellular. I remember Brian McRae saying that taunts from the bleachers were disgusting. I wonder how Milton Bradley will find the Confines. To the Sox fans' credit I havent heard anything of Brian McRae's type complaints from a Sox outfielder.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) He's a freakin rookie so he probably wont be booed at all this season. The Wise-Getz comparison just makes no sense whatsoever. Pods came here as a career minor leaguer who had a little spurt of success with Milwaukee. Then had a down year with them. Was traded here for a very productive hitter. People were down on that trade, yes. Those in the know. But if he struck out his first two at-bats at US Cellular, I wonder what the reaction was/wouldve been. My big thing is with the fact that it was TWO at-bats. That to me is charged with something a little extra, and of course alcohol sales and reported things happening at Wrigley all make the mind consider possibilities.

I should add BA probably gets some cheers from the ladies. They dig his big shamrock gloves.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) He got 2 f***ing hits in the postseason, that doesn't make him a leadoff hitter for a title contender. The fact of the matter is: at every stop in this guy's career he proved that he shouldn't hit atop a major league lineup and the fans knew it. It Getz returns and struggles how long will it take for boos to begin though? If they ever leadoff BA, which now seems it wont happen....that would be the proof, as he's 27 and most fans know he's been around the organization awhile.

When Brian Anderson steps up to bat...what do people hear? I have to say it's a cheer that's just a little disproportionate to his achievements here. He's a great defensive player. Wise has gotten RBI's in a division race and playoffs. If all was perfectly earned, it should be crickets for both of them when they step up though.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:36 PM) What Wise did last year as a 30 year old in AAA is irrelevant, he's proven over the past 12 years that he can't even hit minor league pitching, a few fluky months changes nothing. You're comparing a 31 year old with a career .309 minor league OBP and sub .300 2009 spring OBP to a 25 year old with a .361 career minor league OBP and .400+? 2009 spring OBP. But if we're real real honest, dont you think the majority of those booing fans wanted to win that day? Even if they dont know anyone's minor league #s (i think a lot of those fans fall in that category)...... they shouldve liked the most recent stuff they saw from Wise which was postseason clutch hitting! I agree that shouldnt make Wise's leash long. I'm glad he's out of #1 hole. But the leash is microscopic if we boo after 2 at-bats, c'mon.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:14 PM) But you are willing to say that people rooting for Scalabrine are racists. I can't do that either. There are a million different legitimate reasons to root for a player that get ignored in that scenario. Heck one of my all-time favorite baseball players is Jeff Bajenaru. He just happens to have some absolutely horrible statistics at the major league level. Does that make me a racist? Uh, no. Baj was one of the greatest guys I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with, and that's what I rooted for him to make it, dispite his lack of talent. I know in basketball a proud tradition is rooting hard for the 12 man on the team to make an appearence, and then going crazy once he does. Could a large portion of Scalabrine's "fans" be of that ilk? The idea that people are only rooting for him because he is white is so incredibly narrow-minded it boggles the mind. Agreed. And I think there's weight behind what the poster said regarding Muggsy Bogues and Manute Bol, although I think there are examples that werent such niche guys. I suppose it's true that Scalabrine has a bit of the freak factor, if that's the larger point. See, I didnt phrase it that way. I said racial thinking goes into it. African-Americans probably make up a low portion of the hockey fan viewing public. It's probably the thinking that the players dont look like me so I wont have much in common with it. I've also heard it said that people prefer college basketball because it has less of the cornrows look about it than NBA. It's the same thing in reverse. I'm not calling one side of that bad or good. But it's there.

Also just aside from the discussion, Wise was .319/.402 last year at Charlottle. Getz was .302/.366, albeit in many more at-bats. If fans are booing the front office for not preparing us for THIS year, they need to keep on doing it I guess until Getz proves he's a top of the order MLB hitter. My whole view is though that booing is pointless to begin with.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:11 PM) No one responded. mmkay. I tend to think the bolded part directly addresses why Wise was being booed or why Anderson is seen as different from Wise. You're absolutely right. I mean Alexei has earned some good will too on this very team. But I just think Getz and Wise is the perfect comparison because one guy took over for the other the next day. And then proceeded to fail. Getz hasnt done anything for the Sox org, Wise had clutch RBIs last season. I'd like to think the fans know Wise isnt an ideal leadoff hitter, but I have to wonder how many of those people booing know his exact career OBP and age.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:04 PM) I will help you out, look at post #16. Then you will know why this thread is as long as it is, and you wont need to read the middle unless you feel like it I cant speak for the guy who started the discussion, but I wish people wouldnt take this as accusation. It should be no shock that racial thinking takes part in our society. US is a melting pot. Few other nations have the massive involvement we had in the slave trade. We have problems here dealing with that history and it hasnt faded, just changes. We'd like to think of baseball as a pure area that's free of that, but I dont see why it would be different from everything else.